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		By: Foolproof		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-229782</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2018 22:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-159300&quot;&gt;Sharon&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey! What about me? But no sensible &quot;serious&quot; Scientologist would bother to comment here anyway!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-159300">Sharon</a>.</p>
<p>Hey! What about me? But no sensible &#8220;serious&#8221; Scientologist would bother to comment here anyway!</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-229781</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2018 22:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-159541&quot;&gt;Debbie&lt;/a&gt;.

Hah!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-159541">Debbie</a>.</p>
<p>Hah!</p>
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		By: rogerHornaday		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 22:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-161948&quot;&gt;marildi&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for the lovely reminder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-161948">marildi</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for the lovely reminder.</p>
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		By: marildi		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-161948</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-161930&quot;&gt;Kathleen&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;1 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?&quot; (Matthew 7)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-161930">Kathleen</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;1 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?&#8221; (Matthew 7)</p>
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		By: Kathleen		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-161930</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-159263&quot;&gt;Lacey Sheridan&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Lacey, 
I think there has to be a &quot;cottage industry&quot; (to use their term), because it has to be stopped. It is easy for those who have not been raised in this environment to judge.  We can&#039;t even begin to imagine what their lives are or have been like. 

Maybe in actively helping those who are in or out of Scientology, bringing awareness to the egregious actions of the church, telling their stories to help others to come forward etc. IS THEIR WAY OF MOVING ON. 

I just don&#039;t know how having every aspect of your lives controlled and manipulated for most of your life - then to have to learn almost everything for the first time at an adult age - can&#039;t dominate your life. It is your life.

I did find the info on Marty Rathburn and quite frankly, I am extremely disappointed in him. To come forward with such power to help bring down a little midget dictator and his realm, to then abandon everyone, is sad. Especially, as he was one who caused so much pain, damage and destruction. He OWES all those he hurt. To me, it is way worse to come forward and help and then say; &quot;Oh, ooops, don&#039;t feel like doing this anymore. I just want to go and hide&quot;. 

Maybe the COS has something on Mr. Rathburn, so he and his wife decided to back off from their law suit. Maybe they settled out of court, either way, he has truly failed those he hurt by making these comments (re: Ron Miscavige, Scientology &#038; Me movie, etc.), not making himself available for interviews, stopping writing about Scientology on his blog etc.etc. 

True change and reparations are not easy. It is hard and that is what makes it meaningful. 

Very sad and disappointing on all fronts, Mr. Rathburn. So for the rest of us participating in this new groundswell of interest to help destroy the COS and heal the survivors is important. So, they can move on with their lives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-159263">Lacey Sheridan</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Lacey,<br />
I think there has to be a &#8220;cottage industry&#8221; (to use their term), because it has to be stopped. It is easy for those who have not been raised in this environment to judge.  We can&#8217;t even begin to imagine what their lives are or have been like. </p>
<p>Maybe in actively helping those who are in or out of Scientology, bringing awareness to the egregious actions of the church, telling their stories to help others to come forward etc. IS THEIR WAY OF MOVING ON. </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t know how having every aspect of your lives controlled and manipulated for most of your life &#8211; then to have to learn almost everything for the first time at an adult age &#8211; can&#8217;t dominate your life. It is your life.</p>
<p>I did find the info on Marty Rathburn and quite frankly, I am extremely disappointed in him. To come forward with such power to help bring down a little midget dictator and his realm, to then abandon everyone, is sad. Especially, as he was one who caused so much pain, damage and destruction. He OWES all those he hurt. To me, it is way worse to come forward and help and then say; &#8220;Oh, ooops, don&#8217;t feel like doing this anymore. I just want to go and hide&#8221;. </p>
<p>Maybe the COS has something on Mr. Rathburn, so he and his wife decided to back off from their law suit. Maybe they settled out of court, either way, he has truly failed those he hurt by making these comments (re: Ron Miscavige, Scientology &amp; Me movie, etc.), not making himself available for interviews, stopping writing about Scientology on his blog etc.etc. </p>
<p>True change and reparations are not easy. It is hard and that is what makes it meaningful. </p>
<p>Very sad and disappointing on all fronts, Mr. Rathburn. So for the rest of us participating in this new groundswell of interest to help destroy the COS and heal the survivors is important. So, they can move on with their lives.</p>
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		By: Maria		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-161824</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 04:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-159298&quot;&gt;Katrina&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah Ivan Christianity is based on lies?  Never mind the 10 Commandments or the Golden rule,etc. People who have gone astray and lie do not represent the religion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-159298">Katrina</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah Ivan Christianity is based on lies?  Never mind the 10 Commandments or the Golden rule,etc. People who have gone astray and lie do not represent the religion.</p>
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		By: Allison		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-160550</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m curious to know what will become of the droopy eyed, wishy washy, contradicting attorney that was selected by the church to answer questions. I am still at a loss as to why a catholic who has little to no knowledge about the church and it&#039;s practices was selected to give responses to questions she very clearly did not know the answers to. Can they stick a catholic in the hole too? 

Why wasn&#039;t Michele Miscavige mentioned in this article? I&#039;m so confused on the legalities of a missing persons report now. No one has heard from or seen her or provided proof she is healthy and ok and being where she wants to be. Yet many rumors of sightings of her looking frail, disheveled and scared have surfaced. I&#039;m at a loss. 

Leah&#039;s responses to everything I felt were good- I wasn&#039;t offended by her calling the interviewer an &quot;ass hole&quot; I think she was being silly and made it obvious. I think it&#039;s her personality and I like it. 

I&#039;m curious to know where the church plans to go from here- There are way too many different reports, interviews, documentaries, and other special docuseries like shows that are now airing with numerous different former members (some who have not yet even been on the A&#038;E special yet) who are sharing stories with so many similarities to all the others out there. The problem for the church is that due to so many stories from so many different people from all over the country- it isn&#039;t looking good for them. The very fact this church is notorious for responding back to all these allegations with hateful, slanderous, mean statements and name calling really isn&#039;t helping them. They claim to want to better mankind- Can a rep from the church please explain to me how creating hate web sites, releasing hateful statements calling these people names, and insulting who they are as people whether insulting their jobs or life in general is betting the planet? I&#039;m not sold on that. And I think it really shows more about what this church is then it does the people who freed themselves from the control of this church and have chosen to speak out. 

Also- legally, how can this church claim &quot;tax exempt&quot; and &quot;non-profit&quot; when they clearly are profiting? I thought their were laws in this country also about MINIMUM wage? How are these people getting away with paying it&#039;s employees .40 cents a day? 

I could carry on and on with questions I have and other things I notice of the church and it&#039;s evil &quot;COB&quot; And every time I watch another episode on A&#038;E or read another statement released by the church I have a dozen more. 

No church would release such hateful, mean, and catty things about a former follower. Most churches would either A. Ignore the person and choose not to comment, or B. Say that they will PRAY for the person and hope them the best. I&#039;m still at such a loss as to how someone gets so brain warped that they agree with a church that clearly is full of it by stating they want the best for man kind. We all learned young that talking badly of others is not ok.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious to know what will become of the droopy eyed, wishy washy, contradicting attorney that was selected by the church to answer questions. I am still at a loss as to why a catholic who has little to no knowledge about the church and it&#8217;s practices was selected to give responses to questions she very clearly did not know the answers to. Can they stick a catholic in the hole too? </p>
<p>Why wasn&#8217;t Michele Miscavige mentioned in this article? I&#8217;m so confused on the legalities of a missing persons report now. No one has heard from or seen her or provided proof she is healthy and ok and being where she wants to be. Yet many rumors of sightings of her looking frail, disheveled and scared have surfaced. I&#8217;m at a loss. </p>
<p>Leah&#8217;s responses to everything I felt were good- I wasn&#8217;t offended by her calling the interviewer an &#8220;ass hole&#8221; I think she was being silly and made it obvious. I think it&#8217;s her personality and I like it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious to know where the church plans to go from here- There are way too many different reports, interviews, documentaries, and other special docuseries like shows that are now airing with numerous different former members (some who have not yet even been on the A&amp;E special yet) who are sharing stories with so many similarities to all the others out there. The problem for the church is that due to so many stories from so many different people from all over the country- it isn&#8217;t looking good for them. The very fact this church is notorious for responding back to all these allegations with hateful, slanderous, mean statements and name calling really isn&#8217;t helping them. They claim to want to better mankind- Can a rep from the church please explain to me how creating hate web sites, releasing hateful statements calling these people names, and insulting who they are as people whether insulting their jobs or life in general is betting the planet? I&#8217;m not sold on that. And I think it really shows more about what this church is then it does the people who freed themselves from the control of this church and have chosen to speak out. </p>
<p>Also- legally, how can this church claim &#8220;tax exempt&#8221; and &#8220;non-profit&#8221; when they clearly are profiting? I thought their were laws in this country also about MINIMUM wage? How are these people getting away with paying it&#8217;s employees .40 cents a day? </p>
<p>I could carry on and on with questions I have and other things I notice of the church and it&#8217;s evil &#8220;COB&#8221; And every time I watch another episode on A&amp;E or read another statement released by the church I have a dozen more. </p>
<p>No church would release such hateful, mean, and catty things about a former follower. Most churches would either A. Ignore the person and choose not to comment, or B. Say that they will PRAY for the person and hope them the best. I&#8217;m still at such a loss as to how someone gets so brain warped that they agree with a church that clearly is full of it by stating they want the best for man kind. We all learned young that talking badly of others is not ok.</p>
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		By: WalkSoftly		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-160534</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 18:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-160461&quot;&gt;Crystal&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;...the reason so many people can deny climate change and why we’re stuck with a narcissistic misogynist a la Hubbard for President. &quot;
I was wondering if anyone else was seeing the same stuff I was seeing. However, I don&#039;t think neutrality is the only problem, there are a lot of extremist and conspiracy programs out there who have quite a following and they have skewed &#039;journalism&#039; alongside &#039;infotainment&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-160461">Crystal</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the reason so many people can deny climate change and why we’re stuck with a narcissistic misogynist a la Hubbard for President. &#8221;<br />
I was wondering if anyone else was seeing the same stuff I was seeing. However, I don&#8217;t think neutrality is the only problem, there are a lot of extremist and conspiracy programs out there who have quite a following and they have skewed &#8216;journalism&#8217; alongside &#8216;infotainment&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Crystal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crystal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-159002&quot;&gt;WheresShelley&lt;/a&gt;.

Preach!! I personally was under the misguided impression that journalist ARE SUPPOSED to uncover the TRUTH NOT BE NEUTRAL.. How can u find the truth on a subject if you do not ask the hard questions? Shame on DH 4 NOT DOING HIS JOB..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-159002">WheresShelley</a>.</p>
<p>Preach!! I personally was under the misguided impression that journalist ARE SUPPOSED to uncover the TRUTH NOT BE NEUTRAL.. How can u find the truth on a subject if you do not ask the hard questions? Shame on DH 4 NOT DOING HIS JOB..</p>
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		By: L Yash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L Yash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 01:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-160049&quot;&gt;WalkSoftly&lt;/a&gt;.

Does &quot;Sea Org&quot; permit long term birth control implants for women that prevent pregnancy?  Married couples are going to engage in sex and without birth control she may become pregnant.

The other question I have is in regard to the two interlocking triangles I&#039;ve seen displayed.....I would assume the letter &quot;S&quot; in the middle is for Scientology, what do these two triangles represent.  .

I know of a widowed gentleman, the father of three grown children who were now adults, self supporting and living on their own, and he as a widower entered the Priesthood in his early 50&#039;s and became a Priest. 

Thank you for showing the link for the long list of former Scientologist, it was awesome to see so many have escaped the hold of CO$.
My other question is  do you think most of them would write letters, testify about the abuses or even picket Clearwater and Hemet  if called upon to do so?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/abc-2020/#comment-160049">WalkSoftly</a>.</p>
<p>Does &#8220;Sea Org&#8221; permit long term birth control implants for women that prevent pregnancy?  Married couples are going to engage in sex and without birth control she may become pregnant.</p>
<p>The other question I have is in regard to the two interlocking triangles I&#8217;ve seen displayed&#8230;..I would assume the letter &#8220;S&#8221; in the middle is for Scientology, what do these two triangles represent.  .</p>
<p>I know of a widowed gentleman, the father of three grown children who were now adults, self supporting and living on their own, and he as a widower entered the Priesthood in his early 50&#8217;s and became a Priest. </p>
<p>Thank you for showing the link for the long list of former Scientologist, it was awesome to see so many have escaped the hold of CO$.<br />
My other question is  do you think most of them would write letters, testify about the abuses or even picket Clearwater and Hemet  if called upon to do so?</p>
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