Thanks, very interesting

Yes, completely antithetical to Scientology doctrine!

That one can believe in the fundamental principles of Christianity AND at the same time believe in the fundamental principles of Scientology is an impossibility.

Of course, one can be and stay attached to the cultural aspects of Christianity – the holidays of Christmas and Easter and all their trappings, but these are cultural, not philosophical. One can be attached to the cultural practices of any religion without actually believing in its principles.

“Do they always turn into some sort of fundraising event?”

Doug,
I joined up in the mid-80s. From my cult experience, beginning in 1996 and continuing to when I left in 2011, the answer to that would be “Yes, always”.

Got it, Richard. You left in 1980; I got in around ’85 and from there too the prices kept increasing. The less people in the org, the higher went the prices, seemed like.

And, yes, I was riffing on “tired of winning” 🙂

Do they always turn into some sort of fundraising event?

A more generalized concept might be a “surrendering into the Universe”, a total suspension of ego and asking for guidance or protection from a Higher Power or Universal Intelligence.

This is also in opposition to the scn concept of the thetan being all powerful when “rehabilitated”.

I got tired of winning. . . . . . . . . . (facetious)

I quit around 1980 because of the price increases which I thought were greedy and unjustified. The wins weren’t worth the cost. Some people kept paying.

Aqua,
Great post. You are hitting the key points. Hubbard also had Jesus as a Pedophile. The only thing that will save the NOI is that Islam also rejects Jesus but not to the extent that Hubbard did. NOI loves Hubbard’s “Way to Happiness”. The ministers will be faced with a choice when they hit the OT levels. My prediction is a 50/50 split.

In the class 8 tape Assists, LRH clearly states:”There is no Christ” as if he knew from the research he did self auditing in a locked room.