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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2020 06:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327060&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Portland has Day and Foundation currently]]></description>
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<p>Portland has Day and Foundation currently</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2020 23:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327675&quot;&gt;BKmole&lt;/a&gt;.

All true! Yet, not cavil with you but the graphs are NOT &quot;out for all to see&quot;.  If they were, Miscavige would have been gone long ago!  Look, I was never staff or SO, so take what I&#039;m going to say for whatever its worth.  When I was in, my org kept doing worse and worse.  The staff in my org believed that they had to keep up with what they perceived were all the other orgs doing very well.  In other words, the staff in my org considered themselves the &quot;only one&quot; in the sense of being the only limping, shrinking org!  Now, when I got out, I read online that MANY orgs were nearly empty of people, with skeleton staffs!  So, I&#039;d say its possible that, not knowing each other&#039;s stats, not knowing the Int Mgmt stats, each Scientology (limping, failing, shrinking) - each org believes itself to be the only org not making it and desperately needing to &quot;catch up&quot; to the rest.  And if this is the actual scene, with each org believing itself to be the only one failing, then Miscavige has pulled off quite a trick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327675">BKmole</a>.</p>
<p>All true! Yet, not cavil with you but the graphs are NOT &#8220;out for all to see&#8221;.  If they were, Miscavige would have been gone long ago!  Look, I was never staff or SO, so take what I&#8217;m going to say for whatever its worth.  When I was in, my org kept doing worse and worse.  The staff in my org believed that they had to keep up with what they perceived were all the other orgs doing very well.  In other words, the staff in my org considered themselves the &#8220;only one&#8221; in the sense of being the only limping, shrinking org!  Now, when I got out, I read online that MANY orgs were nearly empty of people, with skeleton staffs!  So, I&#8217;d say its possible that, not knowing each other&#8217;s stats, not knowing the Int Mgmt stats, each Scientology (limping, failing, shrinking) &#8211; each org believes itself to be the only org not making it and desperately needing to &#8220;catch up&#8221; to the rest.  And if this is the actual scene, with each org believing itself to be the only one failing, then Miscavige has pulled off quite a trick.</p>
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		By: BKmole		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2020 22:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327475&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua, cool comment. Thank you.
The bottom line. Scientology manages by statistics. With the graphs out for everyone to see it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the Miscavige is full of ——. Unless the Orgs are all falsifying stats, or Davy is, or both.
I have had some direct dealings with Miscavige. At that time it was not a bad experience. I think that’s why I stayed in the cult longer than most.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327475">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aqua, cool comment. Thank you.<br />
The bottom line. Scientology manages by statistics. With the graphs out for everyone to see it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the Miscavige is full of ——. Unless the Orgs are all falsifying stats, or Davy is, or both.<br />
I have had some direct dealings with Miscavige. At that time it was not a bad experience. I think that’s why I stayed in the cult longer than most.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2020 21:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327326&quot;&gt;BKmole&lt;/a&gt;.

BKmole, yes, agreed on all.  As regards all the angles you&#039;ve mentioned above, Scientology is definitely and totally losing and  will keep losing.   Scientology as an organization is shrinking and losing rapidly.  It is pretty much dead now.  

 But Scientology isn&#039;t Miscavige.  HE has access to a great deal of money.  This money gives  the organization a semblance of staying power; it buys  the organization expertise and protection and time.

But, again, Scientology the organization is not Miscavige.  As linked as they are in the public&#039;s mind he knows he&#039;s separate and he knows that his POWER derives from people BELIEVING that HE IS Scientology.

So, here he is, deriving POWER, his ONLY power he&#039;s ever had or will have, from an organization that is DYING.  An organization that for all practical purposes is already dead.  I mean, its twitching, but there&#039;s not much life left in it!  

His TRUE power is ONLY the power that Scientology has and Scientology is in its death throes.

So what is the guy to do?

Well, exactly what he is doing now!  

Push out a LOT of BIG lies!

D your best to convince everyone still in that Scientology is THRIVING. 

That&#039;s a very important perception (illusion) that HE has to maintain because HIS power derives solely from it!

To continue:
Scientology the organization is dying and doomed but Miscavige is very much alive and everything he has and who he is is inextricably linked to the  FACTUAL success and expansion of Scientology, OR,  barring that, the ILLUSION of the success and expansion of Scientology.

And this man is a narcissist, don&#039;t forget.

He&#039;s in a fight for his life, his very beingness, constantly.

Possibly - this is just me opining, but possibly Miscavige&#039;s only true goals,  the REAL ones he has for himself - are to 1) by any fraudulent but legal means necessary  stay in power for the duration of his lifetime,  and 2)  to be revered in perpetuity by whomever the Scientologists are who are left when he dies and to also be revered in the official annals of Scientology.

I think what scares him - terrifies him - are the concepts  of being deposed WITHIN his lifetime (for &quot;No Results&quot; ) and then, once dead, or deposed or exiled, despised and remembered forever after by his group and in the annals of Scientology as the loathsome SP who DESTROYED Scientology!

Personally,   I think he has known for some time that Scientology the organization is beyond hope and doomed.   I think he has for close to 2 decades now only cared about his power while he&#039;s alive and then his legacy.  I&#039;ll go further and opine that the above are his obsessions. 

 I also believe he doesn&#039;t care a jot if Scientology vanishes altogether tomorrow  so long as his group doesn&#039;t blame him for its failure.  Don&#039;t blame him!  Valient David fought bravely and tirelessly against the Goliath SPs...that sort of thing...:)

These opinions of mine are based on data shared by Mike Rinder as well as what several others on this blog and elsewhere have shared with regard to their personal experiences with David Miscavige.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327326">BKmole</a>.</p>
<p>BKmole, yes, agreed on all.  As regards all the angles you&#8217;ve mentioned above, Scientology is definitely and totally losing and  will keep losing.   Scientology as an organization is shrinking and losing rapidly.  It is pretty much dead now.  </p>
<p> But Scientology isn&#8217;t Miscavige.  HE has access to a great deal of money.  This money gives  the organization a semblance of staying power; it buys  the organization expertise and protection and time.</p>
<p>But, again, Scientology the organization is not Miscavige.  As linked as they are in the public&#8217;s mind he knows he&#8217;s separate and he knows that his POWER derives from people BELIEVING that HE IS Scientology.</p>
<p>So, here he is, deriving POWER, his ONLY power he&#8217;s ever had or will have, from an organization that is DYING.  An organization that for all practical purposes is already dead.  I mean, its twitching, but there&#8217;s not much life left in it!  </p>
<p>His TRUE power is ONLY the power that Scientology has and Scientology is in its death throes.</p>
<p>So what is the guy to do?</p>
<p>Well, exactly what he is doing now!  </p>
<p>Push out a LOT of BIG lies!</p>
<p>D your best to convince everyone still in that Scientology is THRIVING. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a very important perception (illusion) that HE has to maintain because HIS power derives solely from it!</p>
<p>To continue:<br />
Scientology the organization is dying and doomed but Miscavige is very much alive and everything he has and who he is is inextricably linked to the  FACTUAL success and expansion of Scientology, OR,  barring that, the ILLUSION of the success and expansion of Scientology.</p>
<p>And this man is a narcissist, don&#8217;t forget.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s in a fight for his life, his very beingness, constantly.</p>
<p>Possibly &#8211; this is just me opining, but possibly Miscavige&#8217;s only true goals,  the REAL ones he has for himself &#8211; are to 1) by any fraudulent but legal means necessary  stay in power for the duration of his lifetime,  and 2)  to be revered in perpetuity by whomever the Scientologists are who are left when he dies and to also be revered in the official annals of Scientology.</p>
<p>I think what scares him &#8211; terrifies him &#8211; are the concepts  of being deposed WITHIN his lifetime (for &#8220;No Results&#8221; ) and then, once dead, or deposed or exiled, despised and remembered forever after by his group and in the annals of Scientology as the loathsome SP who DESTROYED Scientology!</p>
<p>Personally,   I think he has known for some time that Scientology the organization is beyond hope and doomed.   I think he has for close to 2 decades now only cared about his power while he&#8217;s alive and then his legacy.  I&#8217;ll go further and opine that the above are his obsessions. </p>
<p> I also believe he doesn&#8217;t care a jot if Scientology vanishes altogether tomorrow  so long as his group doesn&#8217;t blame him for its failure.  Don&#8217;t blame him!  Valient David fought bravely and tirelessly against the Goliath SPs&#8230;that sort of thing&#8230;:)</p>
<p>These opinions of mine are based on data shared by Mike Rinder as well as what several others on this blog and elsewhere have shared with regard to their personal experiences with David Miscavige.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2020 20:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327160&quot;&gt;KatherineINCali&lt;/a&gt;.

True. When I was younger (more than 30 years ago) I disseminated all my friends and got them in the cult. 4 of us joined staff and sea org. Now I save 2 of them. They won&#039;t step in even under torture. A third one did it by him self getting sp declared. I miss 2 out the list and I will feel fine. No joke.]]></description>
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<p>True. When I was younger (more than 30 years ago) I disseminated all my friends and got them in the cult. 4 of us joined staff and sea org. Now I save 2 of them. They won&#8217;t step in even under torture. A third one did it by him self getting sp declared. I miss 2 out the list and I will feel fine. No joke.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2020 19:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327285&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

Now that&#039;s a good point!  I&#039;ll try to not be too loud.  I&#039;m trying to control myself....still trying...not sure I can take it...sorry jere, I&#039;m about to explode!  Here it comes...Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I hope that wasn&#039;t too loud (snicker, snicker)]]></description>
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<p>Now that&#8217;s a good point!  I&#8217;ll try to not be too loud.  I&#8217;m trying to control myself&#8230;.still trying&#8230;not sure I can take it&#8230;sorry jere, I&#8217;m about to explode!  Here it comes&#8230;Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.</p>
<p>I hope that wasn&#8217;t too loud (snicker, snicker)</p>
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		By: Royal Jandreau		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2020 19:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327080&quot;&gt;Sactown&lt;/a&gt;.

I got in Scientology during the mid 70&#039;s in Sac and tiny little pip sqeek Arden Way mission was tons busier,  even operating out of a small shopping center.  If we had been standing around smoking cigarettes all day we &#039;d have been hung from the rafters. Oh well, so much for the change in leadership. Sad, or maybe not so sad.]]></description>
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<p>I got in Scientology during the mid 70&#8217;s in Sac and tiny little pip sqeek Arden Way mission was tons busier,  even operating out of a small shopping center.  If we had been standing around smoking cigarettes all day we &#8216;d have been hung from the rafters. Oh well, so much for the change in leadership. Sad, or maybe not so sad.</p>
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		By: Lliira		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2020 16:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327278&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

Plus he still has asthma. It&#039;s possible he&#039;s getting a real doctor to treat it and taking medication undercover, but if he isn&#039;t, that&#039;s going to shorten his life. People with breathing problems sometimes turn to alcohol because it makes it feel easier to breathe temporarily. In the long term, though, it makes any breathing-related problems much, much worse. Excess alcohol is absolutely terrible for the lungs -- definitely contraindicated for someone with asthma.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327278">jere Lull (39 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>Plus he still has asthma. It&#8217;s possible he&#8217;s getting a real doctor to treat it and taking medication undercover, but if he isn&#8217;t, that&#8217;s going to shorten his life. People with breathing problems sometimes turn to alcohol because it makes it feel easier to breathe temporarily. In the long term, though, it makes any breathing-related problems much, much worse. Excess alcohol is absolutely terrible for the lungs &#8212; definitely contraindicated for someone with asthma.</p>
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		By: Lliira		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2020 16:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327274&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

There&#039;s a massive amount of child sexual abuse in the Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses. They also practice shunning for anyone who steps out of line -- say, if someone reports she was abused as a child. They vehemently discourage outside education and friendships. 

I don&#039;t care about whether they&#039;re considered &quot;heresy&quot; or not. I&#039;m the ultimate heretic, being an atheist. I care that the Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses are a severely destructive cult and I don&#039;t know why they get such a pass.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327274">jere Lull (39 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a massive amount of child sexual abuse in the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses. They also practice shunning for anyone who steps out of line &#8212; say, if someone reports she was abused as a child. They vehemently discourage outside education and friendships. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care about whether they&#8217;re considered &#8220;heresy&#8221; or not. I&#8217;m the ultimate heretic, being an atheist. I care that the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses are a severely destructive cult and I don&#8217;t know why they get such a pass.</p>
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		By: BKmole		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2020 07:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327261&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua, good comment. Here’s what I see. A con can only go on for a finite amount of time. And he cannot keep things static. Atrophy sets in. No amount of money can counter bad PR. And we are not stopping until the organization is dwindled to a handful of diehards. And then there is the subject of karma. Hubbard spent his last 8 years in hide. Misscumige has already started on that road. It will only escalate for him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-all-ideal-cali/#comment-327261">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aqua, good comment. Here’s what I see. A con can only go on for a finite amount of time. And he cannot keep things static. Atrophy sets in. No amount of money can counter bad PR. And we are not stopping until the organization is dwindled to a handful of diehards. And then there is the subject of karma. Hubbard spent his last 8 years in hide. Misscumige has already started on that road. It will only escalate for him.</p>
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