Comments on: An Appropriate Commendation For Once

By: Jethro Bodine

Jethro Bodine — Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:19:44 +0000

Well, “obesity” in and off itself is not a medical emergency, though it usually causes other medical conditions such as high blood pressure and type 2 diabetes. My speculation on why the angina was missed the first time was because he initially only complained about the ear ache, and the initial doctor visit only confirmed it, didn’t look for anything else and was not a full physical. I have a feeling Mr. Ellis has been experiencing the symptoms of angina such as chest pressure for a long time, and these “somatics” seemed “normal” to him after a while. Also, keep in the mind that in the initial doctor’s visit the church, in a typically self-serving way, was only trying to find a reason to keep him from flying; they really didn’t care that much about his overall health. Most Sea Org members health are ignored until it becomes an emergency. Also, as a former Sea Org member, the attitude one has about one’s health is something like “it’s just a meat body, I need to make it go right, and I can’t afford time off since my post is more important than the 1st and 2nd dynamics”. Cult members have cult-like attitudes.

By: Mike Rinder

Mike Rinder — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 12:54:48 +0000

In reply to canspeakatlast. Not from there. And not accurate.

By: canspeakatlast

canspeakatlast — Fri, 23 Jan 2015 12:47:44 +0000

In reply to scn8008. I got it from somewhere this week that Nibs wrote Science of Survival. I think it was from Barefaced Messiah.

By: Hallie Jane

Hallie Jane — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 19:26:03 +0000

In reply to Espiritu. Me too Espiritu. Mean people really do suck. :)

By: Starship

Starship — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:50:55 +0000

In reply to Mike Laws. Apologies Yvonneschick and Mike Law. Yvonne, I see only now that you were complimenting Mike Law and not Mike Ellis. My mistake. It was Mike Ellis that I was calling a puppet and NOT Mike Law!

By: Friend

Friend — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:26:51 +0000

In reply to RolandRB. Best statement at all ..

By: Espiritu

Espiritu — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 07:01:36 +0000

I think I must have been “channeling” him.
The only time I ever saw DM in the flesh (outside of at an event) was once years ago when he was walking through the org where I was by himself. He was trying to be “anonymous”, but I recognized him, smiled pleasantly, and was just being there comfortably observing him. When he saw me his eyes got real big and he actually ran in the opposite direction like a scared rabbit. It was rather weird.
I didn’t realize what I had been confronting until years later. Probably he was very uncomfortable without a “posse”. But no, never met the little bully. Maybe he sensed that I can’t stand bullies and don’t tolerate them. I like nice people. 🙂

By: Richard Lloyd-Roberts

Richard Lloyd-Roberts — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 02:29:03 +0000

In reply to Mike Laws. When I was at AOLA Enid Byrnes died with little to no medical care. Many others were neglected. No one wanted to pay.

By: Yossi

Yossi — Thu, 22 Jan 2015 00:40:55 +0000

In reply to Mike Laws.

Mike Law,
You are right when pointing out that a good SO member could ever consider the oppressive nature of the SO, and therefore his/her condition never improves. If one does consider someone in SO acts suppressively and voice it, they are given so much tailored-made FPRD they introvert and take all the “blame, shame, regret….” on themselves. My wife did figure out the true SP(when routing out), but kept it to herself, so her leave would not be compromised. Interestingly enough, the operating procedure of the Church, especially what I experienced at the FSO, is Hill 10 or after a flap. Only when someone blows – they get sleep and proper food and schedule if they return; if an SO family member dies, they can go to their funeral for 2 days, but god forbid to let them go before and say goodbye to the loved one; someone gets really sick and then gets a proper sleep, food and medical attention. It’s totally insane the way this is run.

By: Hallie Jane

Hallie Jane — Wed, 21 Jan 2015 23:54:17 +0000

In reply to Yossi. This is such torture. It explains a lot about my impression of flag. The fact that true items are denied is extremely gross out tech. Another peeve of mine is the complete lack of privacy for staff. A person's item shouldn't even be known by more that a couple people, let alone evaluated or denied. I'm beyond disgusted. Thanks Mike Laws and Mike R. for bringing a correct item to this quagmire. Caring for the well being of one individual, treating them with dignity, respect and compassion is what decent people do.