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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322755</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 07:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322464&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Wynski, there are laws restricting child labor:

https://www.hr.fsu.edu/pdf/publications/compliance/childlaborlaw.pdf

If Scientology is behaving typically, they are violating at least some of those laws, and just getting away with it.  Plus there are also requirements to attend school, so a minor at least can&#039;t be a Sea Org member in the way it&#039;s typically construed as a 100+ hour a week commitment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322464">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Wynski, there are laws restricting child labor:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.hr.fsu.edu/pdf/publications/compliance/childlaborlaw.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.hr.fsu.edu/pdf/publications/compliance/childlaborlaw.pdf</a></p>
<p>If Scientology is behaving typically, they are violating at least some of those laws, and just getting away with it.  Plus there are also requirements to attend school, so a minor at least can&#8217;t be a Sea Org member in the way it&#8217;s typically construed as a 100+ hour a week commitment.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322733</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 03:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322361&quot;&gt;Imaberrated&lt;/a&gt;.

But yet you got out.  Against great odds, you got yourself out.  You&#039;re not doomed.  You were on the road to BEING doomed,  but you turned a corner, you got yourself out!  Well done!  Very well done!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322361">Imaberrated</a>.</p>
<p>But yet you got out.  Against great odds, you got yourself out.  You&#8217;re not doomed.  You were on the road to BEING doomed,  but you turned a corner, you got yourself out!  Well done!  Very well done!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322731</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 02:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322322&quot;&gt;Chicken&lt;/a&gt;.

Me too on all that Chicken just said.  Bravo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322322">Chicken</a>.</p>
<p>Me too on all that Chicken just said.  Bravo!</p>
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		By: Chris Baranet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2020 23:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps Mirrits glowing admiration for Chris Baker is partly due to the fact that he is married to DM&#039;s niece, Tara Baker  ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Mirrits glowing admiration for Chris Baker is partly due to the fact that he is married to DM&#8217;s niece, Tara Baker  ?</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322677</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322280&quot;&gt;Cat W.&lt;/a&gt;.

Cat W, don&#039;t be angry at this mother or any Scientology parents for not &quot;protecting&quot; their children.  As incredible as it may sound, with their very actions they believed that they WERE protecting their kids. These parents placed their kids from infancy into the cult with the best, the purest, the highest of intentions for the welfare of those children. 

 Many of them sent those kids to Scientology schools  in their certainty that  there could be no better start in life for their children, no better way to protect them from the evils and dangers and out-ethics of the &quot;wog&quot; world and the big expense well worth it. They bought them Scientology courses and Scientology auditing too.

 What these parents didn&#039;t realize was that from day one their kids were being trained to believe that any disagreement experienced by ANY Scientologist that could not be &quot;handled&quot; meant that one would have to disconnect from such a person - no exceptions.  

Well, one day it came to pass that these parents had disagreements and their children couldn&#039;t handle them and the ethics people at the orgs couldn&#039;t handle them and so poof! the children were ordered to disconnect from said parent(s) and guess what?  They obeyed. 

 No surprise here.  &quot;Handle or disconnect&quot; was all they knew and all they had ever known all they&#039;d ever practiced from infancy their parents&#039; enthusiastic approval. 

Then one day, its Dad who can&#039;t be handled, or Mom just won&#039;t listen and keeps disagreeing...&#039;bye Mom, &#039;bye Dad...&#039;bye ANYONE who cannot or will not be handled! 

 Cat, these people now have to live without their kids.  While they deal with the pain of these losses they have to live with the fact that, bluntly, its their fault that the kids became cult robots, because they, the parents put them into the cult. With the best of intentions too.  This cannot be overstressed.  With the very best of intentions and the most altruistic, idealistic and unselfish of motives.  

So don&#039;t be angry with them.  There&#039;s enormous pain they&#039;re dealing with.  They believed they were doing right by their children.  They&#039;re innocent in that regard.

There&#039;s nothing that Mike Rinder&#039;s daugher Taryn is doing to hurt him, no behavior with the full on intent to destroy  her father in any  way legally possible, no activity along this line ini which Taryn  Rinder Teutsch is engaging which would not or could not be done by ANY Scientology kid against a disconnected parent.
No difference.  Taryn is following orders to destroy her father - period.  She&#039;s following orders.  She does nothing - NOTHING - that is not obedience to or in sync with orders from the cult.  She may even, in her heart of hearts, not WANT to be in compliance with her orders.  No matter; she does what she&#039;s told, no more, no less,  period.

The other &quot;kids&quot; that are in, be they staff or Sea Org or public Scientologists - if they&#039;re NOT doing the same, its because they haven&#039;t been ORDERED to do so.

  That simple, really.  If they&#039;re not spreading nasty lies about their disconnected ExScn parent it just means that that these disconnected parent are not &quot;high profile&quot; enough.    Mike Rinder is a serious high profile threat; if and/or when any parents here would speak out and get the kind of attention Mike or Leah get from  their still in kids would be trotted out and ordered to attack and destroy their parents in some way, to &quot;shudder them into silence&quot;.  And these kids would obey, just as Taryn does.

What she&#039;s doing to her father is what any of the still in kids would do if they were ordered to do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322280">Cat W.</a>.</p>
<p>Cat W, don&#8217;t be angry at this mother or any Scientology parents for not &#8220;protecting&#8221; their children.  As incredible as it may sound, with their very actions they believed that they WERE protecting their kids. These parents placed their kids from infancy into the cult with the best, the purest, the highest of intentions for the welfare of those children. </p>
<p> Many of them sent those kids to Scientology schools  in their certainty that  there could be no better start in life for their children, no better way to protect them from the evils and dangers and out-ethics of the &#8220;wog&#8221; world and the big expense well worth it. They bought them Scientology courses and Scientology auditing too.</p>
<p> What these parents didn&#8217;t realize was that from day one their kids were being trained to believe that any disagreement experienced by ANY Scientologist that could not be &#8220;handled&#8221; meant that one would have to disconnect from such a person &#8211; no exceptions.  </p>
<p>Well, one day it came to pass that these parents had disagreements and their children couldn&#8217;t handle them and the ethics people at the orgs couldn&#8217;t handle them and so poof! the children were ordered to disconnect from said parent(s) and guess what?  They obeyed. </p>
<p> No surprise here.  &#8220;Handle or disconnect&#8221; was all they knew and all they had ever known all they&#8217;d ever practiced from infancy their parents&#8217; enthusiastic approval. </p>
<p>Then one day, its Dad who can&#8217;t be handled, or Mom just won&#8217;t listen and keeps disagreeing&#8230;&#8217;bye Mom, &#8216;bye Dad&#8230;&#8217;bye ANYONE who cannot or will not be handled! </p>
<p> Cat, these people now have to live without their kids.  While they deal with the pain of these losses they have to live with the fact that, bluntly, its their fault that the kids became cult robots, because they, the parents put them into the cult. With the best of intentions too.  This cannot be overstressed.  With the very best of intentions and the most altruistic, idealistic and unselfish of motives.  </p>
<p>So don&#8217;t be angry with them.  There&#8217;s enormous pain they&#8217;re dealing with.  They believed they were doing right by their children.  They&#8217;re innocent in that regard.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing that Mike Rinder&#8217;s daugher Taryn is doing to hurt him, no behavior with the full on intent to destroy  her father in any  way legally possible, no activity along this line ini which Taryn  Rinder Teutsch is engaging which would not or could not be done by ANY Scientology kid against a disconnected parent.<br />
No difference.  Taryn is following orders to destroy her father &#8211; period.  She&#8217;s following orders.  She does nothing &#8211; NOTHING &#8211; that is not obedience to or in sync with orders from the cult.  She may even, in her heart of hearts, not WANT to be in compliance with her orders.  No matter; she does what she&#8217;s told, no more, no less,  period.</p>
<p>The other &#8220;kids&#8221; that are in, be they staff or Sea Org or public Scientologists &#8211; if they&#8217;re NOT doing the same, its because they haven&#8217;t been ORDERED to do so.</p>
<p>  That simple, really.  If they&#8217;re not spreading nasty lies about their disconnected ExScn parent it just means that that these disconnected parent are not &#8220;high profile&#8221; enough.    Mike Rinder is a serious high profile threat; if and/or when any parents here would speak out and get the kind of attention Mike or Leah get from  their still in kids would be trotted out and ordered to attack and destroy their parents in some way, to &#8220;shudder them into silence&#8221;.  And these kids would obey, just as Taryn does.</p>
<p>What she&#8217;s doing to her father is what any of the still in kids would do if they were ordered to do so.</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I try, hard, to not blame the victims of the mind-fuck perpetrated by the criminal organisation known as the &quot;church&quot; of $cientology. Mirit makes that so very difficult :-(

I hope they all get out, and that her kids realise that the Co$ is the real villain here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try, hard, to not blame the victims of the mind-fuck perpetrated by the criminal organisation known as the &#8220;church&#8221; of $cientology. Mirit makes that so very difficult 🙁</p>
<p>I hope they all get out, and that her kids realise that the Co$ is the real villain here.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322533&quot;&gt;Valerie Feria-Isacks&lt;/a&gt;.

Spoken like a true uneducated fool Valerie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322533">Valerie Feria-Isacks</a>.</p>
<p>Spoken like a true uneducated fool Valerie.</p>
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		By: Robert King		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2020 08:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ironic,,, what is it that Hubbard says  about the person who sits in his ivory towe not really being a part of life! Claiming a man has to get into the nooks and crannies of life to rea lly know life? 
But kids in Scientology never get the chance to do this. Too busy reading and not experiencing life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironic,,, what is it that Hubbard says  about the person who sits in his ivory towe not really being a part of life! Claiming a man has to get into the nooks and crannies of life to rea lly know life?<br />
But kids in Scientology never get the chance to do this. Too busy reading and not experiencing life.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322562</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2020 04:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322316&quot;&gt;Jenyfurrr&lt;/a&gt;.

Why should she be bored parenting her daughters when she has money coming in enabling her to not have to work, and why spend any of it on her kids when she can dump them in the Sea Org, and be extravagently praised by the cult for all of that?  , Why not gallivant around the globe for the cult?   She is, after doing what EVERY parent (per the cult).SHOULD do. Her dynamics are the cult&#039;s &quot;Ideal Scene&quot;!  All other Scientology families should be EMULATING her!  And if they&#039;re not, if they&#039;re holding their kids BACK from joining the Sea Org, then these Scientologists should be ASHAMED.   And yes, I&#039;m serious, this is how the cult thinks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322316">Jenyfurrr</a>.</p>
<p>Why should she be bored parenting her daughters when she has money coming in enabling her to not have to work, and why spend any of it on her kids when she can dump them in the Sea Org, and be extravagently praised by the cult for all of that?  , Why not gallivant around the globe for the cult?   She is, after doing what EVERY parent (per the cult).SHOULD do. Her dynamics are the cult&#8217;s &#8220;Ideal Scene&#8221;!  All other Scientology families should be EMULATING her!  And if they&#8217;re not, if they&#8217;re holding their kids BACK from joining the Sea Org, then these Scientologists should be ASHAMED.   And yes, I&#8217;m serious, this is how the cult thinks.</p>
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		By: Valerie Feria-Isacks		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2020 00:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322464&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

The Constitution can be amended and if we agreed to greater world laws then it would become illegal once https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child is ratified. Which it should be, everywhere not just USA. Children everywhere should have those rights &#038; freedoms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-ideal-scientology-family/#comment-322464">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>The Constitution can be amended and if we agreed to greater world laws then it would become illegal once <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child</a> is ratified. Which it should be, everywhere not just USA. Children everywhere should have those rights &amp; freedoms.</p>
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