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		By: MESTian		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512763</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 03:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Atlanta org is always dead, too. I once drove slowly around its parking lot, which did stir staff to check me out. I don&#039;t think they saw many cars pull into the place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Atlanta org is always dead, too. I once drove slowly around its parking lot, which did stir staff to check me out. I don&#8217;t think they saw many cars pull into the place.</p>
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		By: Ruth		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512700</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 12:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512663&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Sidewalk is city. There is a you tube guy named First Amendment Auditor. He does just that. Videos on the street. He did a Twin City Org Audit. The staff came out, asked him to not film, and called the Cops. He did step on a step I think? Then apologized and got on the sidewalk, still no Bueno. 
When they had the Org on the Nicollet Mall downtown, we had cookies, cider, all kinds of fun stuff so people could get out of the cold to watch the Parade of lights. There were nice big windows. It truely was open to the public.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512663">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Sidewalk is city. There is a you tube guy named First Amendment Auditor. He does just that. Videos on the street. He did a Twin City Org Audit. The staff came out, asked him to not film, and called the Cops. He did step on a step I think? Then apologized and got on the sidewalk, still no Bueno.<br />
When they had the Org on the Nicollet Mall downtown, we had cookies, cider, all kinds of fun stuff so people could get out of the cold to watch the Parade of lights. There were nice big windows. It truely was open to the public.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512663</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 01:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512531&quot;&gt;Ruth&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Plus if you do walk by and linger around the building, you will be shoed off!&quot;

Ruth, does the org own the sidewalk or area adjacent to the building?   Serious question!  I&#039;m curious.  Because if one &quot;walks by&quot; and lingers and yet is lingering on public property adjacent to private property one cannot be made to leave by owner of that private property.  Of course, taking photos without permission of private property, that might be a different story.  But just lingering in front of it for a while, just watching who goes in and who goes out, just standing there, not creating a disturbance of any kind, one could legally stand there all day, to my understanding, provided one&#039;s feet were on public property.  That&#039;s how it is in my city, my state, at least.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512531">Ruth</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Plus if you do walk by and linger around the building, you will be shoed off!&#8221;</p>
<p>Ruth, does the org own the sidewalk or area adjacent to the building?   Serious question!  I&#8217;m curious.  Because if one &#8220;walks by&#8221; and lingers and yet is lingering on public property adjacent to private property one cannot be made to leave by owner of that private property.  Of course, taking photos without permission of private property, that might be a different story.  But just lingering in front of it for a while, just watching who goes in and who goes out, just standing there, not creating a disturbance of any kind, one could legally stand there all day, to my understanding, provided one&#8217;s feet were on public property.  That&#8217;s how it is in my city, my state, at least.</p>
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		By: Over and Out		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 01:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512526&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

Scientologists are committing suicide by being stuck in the dangerous organized criminal organization hiding behind the religious cloak.  
Their dreams are dead.  They have no life of their own.
They are unduly influenced with no awareness of that fact
They are abused and used then discarded without sorrow 
They are trapped with no abilities or skills  to think for themselves.
They die sometimes fast, mostly slow
But they are dead long before they are gone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512526">otherles</a>.</p>
<p>Scientologists are committing suicide by being stuck in the dangerous organized criminal organization hiding behind the religious cloak.<br />
Their dreams are dead.  They have no life of their own.<br />
They are unduly influenced with no awareness of that fact<br />
They are abused and used then discarded without sorrow<br />
They are trapped with no abilities or skills  to think for themselves.<br />
They die sometimes fast, mostly slow<br />
But they are dead long before they are gone.</p>
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		By: Over and Out		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512660</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Over and Out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 01:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512527&quot;&gt;Ammo Alamo&lt;/a&gt;.

“A cesspool of mentally enslaved victims”…

THAT ^^^^^
IS a perfect description of 
WHAT IS Scientology. 

6 words describes it all!  

Absolutely brilliant. 
Thanks Ammo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512527">Ammo Alamo</a>.</p>
<p>“A cesspool of mentally enslaved victims”…</p>
<p>THAT ^^^^^<br />
IS a perfect description of<br />
WHAT IS Scientology. </p>
<p>6 words describes it all!  </p>
<p>Absolutely brilliant.<br />
Thanks Ammo!</p>
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		By: Sunny		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 00:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Los Gatos, California Org is always the same 3 cars in the parking lot. I drive by every day and nothing changes. I signed up 10 years ago and they called me inaccessibly. Thank god I got a new phone number. Thank you, Mike, for what you&#039;re doing, and keep it up. your book is amazing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Los Gatos, California Org is always the same 3 cars in the parking lot. I drive by every day and nothing changes. I signed up 10 years ago and they called me inaccessibly. Thank god I got a new phone number. Thank you, Mike, for what you&#8217;re doing, and keep it up. your book is amazing!</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512653</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2023 23:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512561&quot;&gt;Sue T.&lt;/a&gt;.

@Sue T: Since this was formerly a major destination point in the capital city, housing dinosaur exhibits and that huge &quot;omni-theater,&quot; one might imagine the space is enormous. And it is - I looked online and sounds like it is upwards of 80,000 usable square feet. With all the various utility spaces (not necessarily occupied, but paid to ventilate, heat or cool  nonetheless throughout the year), that probably makes it more like 90,000 square feet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512561">Sue T.</a>.</p>
<p>@Sue T: Since this was formerly a major destination point in the capital city, housing dinosaur exhibits and that huge &#8220;omni-theater,&#8221; one might imagine the space is enormous. And it is &#8211; I looked online and sounds like it is upwards of 80,000 usable square feet. With all the various utility spaces (not necessarily occupied, but paid to ventilate, heat or cool  nonetheless throughout the year), that probably makes it more like 90,000 square feet.</p>
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		By: Ulysses		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512612</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2023 15:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Detroit Org is just as empty, perhaps more so. When I was in there a couple of months ago, I saw 4 staff total to manage the 8-story tall building.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Detroit Org is just as empty, perhaps more so. When I was in there a couple of months ago, I saw 4 staff total to manage the 8-story tall building.</p>
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		By: Joe Pendleton		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512604</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Pendleton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2023 14:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a cryin&#039; shame ...

Probably not applying the correct condition formula ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a cryin&#8217; shame &#8230;</p>
<p>Probably not applying the correct condition formula &#8230;</p>
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		By: PilgrimUSA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2023 14:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512570&quot;&gt;Over and Out&lt;/a&gt;.

You are right of course.  I just thought, when I watched Mike and Leah&#039;s documentary that the two organizations had a LOT of similarities: a singular, charismatic founder who was and IS deified, whose writings are considered scripture; a metaphysical origin story that is significantly different from traditional Christianity; a financial trust fund of billions (funded by members&#039; tithes and offerings) which is never audited openly or investigated; secret ceremonies for the select; and in the past and possibly present time, shunning of those who questioned where families would split over belief/nonbelief.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-empty-ideal-org/#comment-512570">Over and Out</a>.</p>
<p>You are right of course.  I just thought, when I watched Mike and Leah&#8217;s documentary that the two organizations had a LOT of similarities: a singular, charismatic founder who was and IS deified, whose writings are considered scripture; a metaphysical origin story that is significantly different from traditional Christianity; a financial trust fund of billions (funded by members&#8217; tithes and offerings) which is never audited openly or investigated; secret ceremonies for the select; and in the past and possibly present time, shunning of those who questioned where families would split over belief/nonbelief.</p>
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