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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407273</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2021 12:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-406952&quot;&gt;Clive&lt;/a&gt;.

Later and current scns probably felt and feel likewise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-406952">Clive</a>.</p>
<p>Later and current scns probably felt and feel likewise.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2021 11:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-406952&quot;&gt;Clive&lt;/a&gt;.

As an aside, in the 1970&#039;s there was a &quot;demand for excellence&quot; in the the scn organizations. As an auditor I was dealing with a person&#039;s innermost thoughts and feelings and I took my job seriously. I was glad if I did something wrong in a session and got a &quot; cramming order&quot; so I could correct my mistakes and be as professional as I could be. All the other people in other positions that I came across had the same attitude. We weren&#039;t aware of the abuse and corruption at the core of scn.

Later and current scns probably felt and feel likewise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-406952">Clive</a>.</p>
<p>As an aside, in the 1970&#8217;s there was a &#8220;demand for excellence&#8221; in the the scn organizations. As an auditor I was dealing with a person&#8217;s innermost thoughts and feelings and I took my job seriously. I was glad if I did something wrong in a session and got a &#8221; cramming order&#8221; so I could correct my mistakes and be as professional as I could be. All the other people in other positions that I came across had the same attitude. We weren&#8217;t aware of the abuse and corruption at the core of scn.</p>
<p>Later and current scns probably felt and feel likewise.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2021 16:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407035&quot;&gt;Peridot&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;It is about any “charge” that shows up you might have connected to your schooling and education.&quot;

Peridot, a Wheatstone bridge doesn&#039;t measure charge of any kind.  Please &quot;clear&quot; the term &quot;Wheatstone bridge&quot;.]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;It is about any “charge” that shows up you might have connected to your schooling and education.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peridot, a Wheatstone bridge doesn&#8217;t measure charge of any kind.  Please &#8220;clear&#8221; the term &#8220;Wheatstone bridge&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2021 13:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407065&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard—I track with all.  There are some big &quot;triumphant&quot; wins a person has, which feel spectacular, like the dawning of a new day.  You almost don&#039;t notice that is when the registrars and fundraisers come around and &quot;nab you&quot; for a new ridiculous set of unrealistic donations, then you are back in the grind again.  

I did enjoy Method One and I do not in any way see any harmful effects.

I also enjoyed studying The Data Series and all the Levels from 0 to IV.

I got some good, for which I am grateful.  Was it worth the price?  No, not unless I unexpectedly become a millionaire.  Scientology is ludicrously priced. 

Part of the &quot;mystique,&quot; I think, how they nab a regular middle-class person (which I am) is to pump you up into a thoroughly unrealistic image of yourself—I suppose much like a well-oiled casino operation.  They pump you into seeing yourself as someone dripping with wealth (which you are not), so you make financial decisions FROM THERE, rather than based on your true resources.

It&#039;s a very bad game, though now (thank God) well-exposed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407065">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Richard—I track with all.  There are some big &#8220;triumphant&#8221; wins a person has, which feel spectacular, like the dawning of a new day.  You almost don&#8217;t notice that is when the registrars and fundraisers come around and &#8220;nab you&#8221; for a new ridiculous set of unrealistic donations, then you are back in the grind again.  </p>
<p>I did enjoy Method One and I do not in any way see any harmful effects.</p>
<p>I also enjoyed studying The Data Series and all the Levels from 0 to IV.</p>
<p>I got some good, for which I am grateful.  Was it worth the price?  No, not unless I unexpectedly become a millionaire.  Scientology is ludicrously priced. </p>
<p>Part of the &#8220;mystique,&#8221; I think, how they nab a regular middle-class person (which I am) is to pump you up into a thoroughly unrealistic image of yourself—I suppose much like a well-oiled casino operation.  They pump you into seeing yourself as someone dripping with wealth (which you are not), so you make financial decisions FROM THERE, rather than based on your true resources.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a very bad game, though now (thank God) well-exposed.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407162</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2021 11:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-406925&quot;&gt;jacquelin davis&lt;/a&gt;.

There might be a circling of the wagons coming in the future. It seems to happen with small-ish cults and fundamentalist religions. Constant hostility or at least disapproval from the public causes them to move to an area where they can just associate with their own. Historically it happened with the Mormons when they moved west to Utah. A current example might be the Amish who have a large contingent in Lancaster, Pa. 

In scn the whales are wealthy enough that they can live where they want and disregard any disapproval, but the less wealthy might want to congregate. In Lancaster there is a thriving tourist industry with people coming from all over to see how the Amish live and work and buy souvenirs and Amish style food. There are tour buses, movie presentations and even a mock Amish village where a tour guide shows you around and explains some of the Amish beliefs and practices. It&#039;s a peaceful co-existence. Maybe Clearwater will get lucky and some day have a  thriving tourist attraction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-406925">jacquelin davis</a>.</p>
<p>There might be a circling of the wagons coming in the future. It seems to happen with small-ish cults and fundamentalist religions. Constant hostility or at least disapproval from the public causes them to move to an area where they can just associate with their own. Historically it happened with the Mormons when they moved west to Utah. A current example might be the Amish who have a large contingent in Lancaster, Pa. </p>
<p>In scn the whales are wealthy enough that they can live where they want and disregard any disapproval, but the less wealthy might want to congregate. In Lancaster there is a thriving tourist industry with people coming from all over to see how the Amish live and work and buy souvenirs and Amish style food. There are tour buses, movie presentations and even a mock Amish village where a tour guide shows you around and explains some of the Amish beliefs and practices. It&#8217;s a peaceful co-existence. Maybe Clearwater will get lucky and some day have a  thriving tourist attraction.</p>
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		By: Clive Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clive Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2021 02:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407061&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Yea that&#039;s right! :-)]]></description>
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<p>Yea that&#8217;s right! 🙂</p>
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		By: Atlanta Guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Atlanta Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2021 01:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-406936&quot;&gt;Doug Sprinkle&lt;/a&gt;.

I bet you mean Dan Austin. Does that sound right?  He had a wife at the time Linda Austin.  After Skip left and was declared I want to think that she was then ED until guys came back from ITO for OEC FEBC training.

If it was Dan Austin, well you should check this out:

https://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?topic=11866.0]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-406936">Doug Sprinkle</a>.</p>
<p>I bet you mean Dan Austin. Does that sound right?  He had a wife at the time Linda Austin.  After Skip left and was declared I want to think that she was then ED until guys came back from ITO for OEC FEBC training.</p>
<p>If it was Dan Austin, well you should check this out:</p>
<p><a href="https://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?topic=11866.0" rel="nofollow ugc">https://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?topic=11866.0</a></p>
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		By: Imaberrated		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2021 01:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407090&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s true. I had forgotten that mechanism.

We would go for weeks without making sales above perhaps a book. it was a constant present-time problem for all the staff. Management hated us, because it became their problem.

Would would have thought that the &quot;real why&quot; was that Scientology technology was unworkable?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407090">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true. I had forgotten that mechanism.</p>
<p>We would go for weeks without making sales above perhaps a book. it was a constant present-time problem for all the staff. Management hated us, because it became their problem.</p>
<p>Would would have thought that the &#8220;real why&#8221; was that Scientology technology was unworkable?!</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407113</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2021 00:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407094&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

There were four or five tapes on the supposed three barriers to study, the misunderstood word or symbol, absence of mass and too steep a gradient. This was developed by people on the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course and Hubbard took credit for it. He may have done some work on it in describing supposed physiological occurrences with each barrier. All the words in the tapes were looked up as I described. I don&#039;t why it messed you up.

As often explained word clearing was used as a method of control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407094">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>There were four or five tapes on the supposed three barriers to study, the misunderstood word or symbol, absence of mass and too steep a gradient. This was developed by people on the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course and Hubbard took credit for it. He may have done some work on it in describing supposed physiological occurrences with each barrier. All the words in the tapes were looked up as I described. I don&#8217;t why it messed you up.</p>
<p>As often explained word clearing was used as a method of control.</p>
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		By: Scribe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scribe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2021 00:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407093&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

An early picture of COB before he became the man that he is today.

https://images.app.goo.gl/sXWdD3EKYikDMRrV7]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/another-ideal-org-failing-miserably/#comment-407093">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>An early picture of COB before he became the man that he is today.</p>
<p><a href="https://images.app.goo.gl/sXWdD3EKYikDMRrV7" rel="nofollow ugc">https://images.app.goo.gl/sXWdD3EKYikDMRrV7</a></p>
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