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		By: Episode 55: Ian Rafalko and Dylan Follo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: georgemwhite		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 18:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Henry George died in 1897 but he explained the post in his book &quot;Progress and Poverty&quot; which was the most popular  book of his age.  George ran for mayor of New York City but was smart enough to avoid the word socialism.  He took a minor position recommending a rent tax which was rejected.  Hubbard would have been the exact opposite of Henry George with his emphasis on slave labor.  Henry George&#039;s book is obviously out of date but the simplicity of his truth is clear.  Labour is at a significant disadvantage when compared to Capital and Land ownership.  Scientology is probably the mot extreme case of a screwed up economic system.  Intense Capital, intense Land Ownership but no respect for any kind of labour.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry George died in 1897 but he explained the post in his book &#8220;Progress and Poverty&#8221; which was the most popular  book of his age.  George ran for mayor of New York City but was smart enough to avoid the word socialism.  He took a minor position recommending a rent tax which was rejected.  Hubbard would have been the exact opposite of Henry George with his emphasis on slave labor.  Henry George&#8217;s book is obviously out of date but the simplicity of his truth is clear.  Labour is at a significant disadvantage when compared to Capital and Land ownership.  Scientology is probably the mot extreme case of a screwed up economic system.  Intense Capital, intense Land Ownership but no respect for any kind of labour.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 14:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/atlanta-10x-x-0-0x/#comment-397845&quot;&gt;angry gay pope&lt;/a&gt;.

Against my better judgment, I&#039;m going to reply one time and then this topic will be closed.

First, you have a fundamental lack of understanding about TV production. Production companies hire firms who license and pay for footage for them. I am not a production company, let alone a licensing firm. In season 1 I was not even an Exec Producer of the Aftermath. Even as an Exec Producer I would not license images. Nor &quot;hire&quot; anyone. That is the production company.

You say you didn&#039;t mean any offense to the &quot;diligent person&quot; who took the Atlanta footage -- yet you said it was &quot;pathetic.&quot; Clearly, you did mean offense otherwise why be so directly insulting?

And this is sort of the crux of the problem. I have a personal aversion to the style of your activism. It does not mean you are wrong. It only means I don&#039;t like it. Yet you seem to think I have an obligation to &quot;promote&quot; or praise you. You want to argue with me about whether you are taunting someone in the video by listing every question and then say &quot;how is this different than Chris Shelton?&quot; and &quot;why won&#039;t you throw me a bone?&quot; Simple answer, I have never seen Chris Shelton make a video in front of a scientology org asking questions like this of anyone. And I think if you ask Chris Shelton he will agree with me that these low-level scientologists are not the correct target, they are victims of mind control.

You say: &quot;I understand how you don’t like jokers and degraders. I don’t care.&quot; Your first sentence is correct. But apparently you do care. Quite a lot.

As you also correctly state, you don&#039;t need to do this. Great for fighting the good fight. Because you oppose scientology doesn&#039;t mean I have agree with you on how you go about doing things. 

And just as you say you don&#039;t care, I can honestly tell you that I don&#039;t care about your insults that I live in a bubble, am an elitist, play the victim or &quot;have a lot of legal issues.&quot; 

Sorry to disappoint you, but as the old saying goes, you can&#039;t please all of the people all of the time. Something I have found to be very accurate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/atlanta-10x-x-0-0x/#comment-397845">angry gay pope</a>.</p>
<p>Against my better judgment, I&#8217;m going to reply one time and then this topic will be closed.</p>
<p>First, you have a fundamental lack of understanding about TV production. Production companies hire firms who license and pay for footage for them. I am not a production company, let alone a licensing firm. In season 1 I was not even an Exec Producer of the Aftermath. Even as an Exec Producer I would not license images. Nor &#8220;hire&#8221; anyone. That is the production company.</p>
<p>You say you didn&#8217;t mean any offense to the &#8220;diligent person&#8221; who took the Atlanta footage &#8212; yet you said it was &#8220;pathetic.&#8221; Clearly, you did mean offense otherwise why be so directly insulting?</p>
<p>And this is sort of the crux of the problem. I have a personal aversion to the style of your activism. It does not mean you are wrong. It only means I don&#8217;t like it. Yet you seem to think I have an obligation to &#8220;promote&#8221; or praise you. You want to argue with me about whether you are taunting someone in the video by listing every question and then say &#8220;how is this different than Chris Shelton?&#8221; and &#8220;why won&#8217;t you throw me a bone?&#8221; Simple answer, I have never seen Chris Shelton make a video in front of a scientology org asking questions like this of anyone. And I think if you ask Chris Shelton he will agree with me that these low-level scientologists are not the correct target, they are victims of mind control.</p>
<p>You say: &#8220;I understand how you don’t like jokers and degraders. I don’t care.&#8221; Your first sentence is correct. But apparently you do care. Quite a lot.</p>
<p>As you also correctly state, you don&#8217;t need to do this. Great for fighting the good fight. Because you oppose scientology doesn&#8217;t mean I have agree with you on how you go about doing things. </p>
<p>And just as you say you don&#8217;t care, I can honestly tell you that I don&#8217;t care about your insults that I live in a bubble, am an elitist, play the victim or &#8220;have a lot of legal issues.&#8221; </p>
<p>Sorry to disappoint you, but as the old saying goes, you can&#8217;t please all of the people all of the time. Something I have found to be very accurate.</p>
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		By: angry gay pope		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 00:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/atlanta-10x-x-0-0x/#comment-397637&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

This is not really about your blog or the parking lot video post. Your show paid me $150 in Season 1 for Gold Base photos.  That means you are my employer.  This is about you being my Hwd producer and I want to discuss your choice of what you promo on A&#038;E/this blog etc. 
I apologize to you re: previous comm line and I meant no offense to the well meaning and diligent person who posted the Atlanta report. Don’t be intimidated by Anonymous. My comment  was just a final video straw remark as a childish means of getting your attention. It highlights my frustration at what I think is an unintentional bias you/Leah/others have as previously brainwashed people. I simply want to give some constructive criticism to try and get you up to the next dynamic, the dynamic beyond interviewing the same old non-Anons. 
Recognize Anonymous exists!
While I am so glad A&#038;E used much of my work on the show few of you Ex’s ever even slightly recognize my, or other Anons like AnonOrange and Nasty Nathanial, exist. Only Karen DLC, who is known for teamwork w/Anons, gets it! 
I feel you are not consciously slighting us, you just are struggling to understand that we exist.  In the next dynamic up.  
You are in a kind of bubble world snow globe like the FL shot EDWARD SCISSORHANDS.  I realize being emotionally naked for a cause in the mass media can at times be overwhelming. BUT:
RE HYPOCRISY I NEVER BAD MOUTH LRH in front of Scis.  TONY ORTEGA constantly does that online and yet you promote him. He displays a constantly insecure smarminess on the subject.  Fine. I only black PR LRH on March 13thin the presence of Scis.  I almost never do that. This video explains at about the halfway mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpNM3KOaNeY
RE: THE VIDEO shows the empty parking lot at the Hollywood Inn.  It is news to record what this location is up to and record it professionally.
We ask:
Hi.
How are you?
Where are you on the bridge?
Would you like to come talk to us and tell us if you are vaccinated or not?
Where is [PAC security guard] Parker Osmon?
I know the delivery is smarmy but the journalism is real. And concerned questions. Ron Miscavige’s book cover is clearly seen/promoted. The entheta is real for the guard. He stops disseminating Scientology.  I throw in an educational Karen DLC video re: TWTH. Why can’t you throw us a bone to promote it? How is this inferior to a Chris Shelton video?
Perhaps you are broken and unable to work on a team from outside. I hope not! Relax! What more in this video is not “entheta” enough for you to recognize Nasty Nathanial and I did it? We both have credits in your Disney show. It is diligent for you, as a Producer/team player, to eventually recognize the contributions of the cast and crew. If you want to go to the next level in Hwd you must be more at cause. Relax!
I’m clumsily expressing my frustration at the rut going on as you re-interview people. I am so tired of promoting you ex’s behind the scenes. Do you know how many times I have discussed w/my lawyer GB how he should be on your podcast/radio show? Or how about having me on?  I sell sell sell you behind the scenes.
Karen covered AnonOrange’s lawyer’s house burning down. Why can’t you folks?  Why was AnonOrange’s Gold Base beating verboten in your promo campaign? Why don’t you promote anything I did with Karen? Her videos we did are great! You don’t need to post every day, esp. re: parking lots.
How much aftermath foundation do we have to promote in Hwd before you realize we exist? 
GAY POPE BEING NICE PLAYLIST: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0YZZgj1G04rnj3w1cU_jEC07oc3zBRI4
How about promoting something like this video:
https://youtu.be/7STlkd-WSeY - Quiet Enturbulation
https://youtu.be/vtWsz0kIgFM - We promote Aftermath foundation
I understand how you don’t like jokers and degraders. I don’t care. I want to get them in trouble with DM. Also, they have had me charged/arrested for just standing on the street. I have every right to enturbulate them. 

The point is I am trying to prevent your blog from falling into a rut by being not at cause and unable to go to the next dynamic.
WHAT IF
Just because part of what AGP does is controversial does not mean it all is
DM does not want you to reach out to DM. The Angry Gay Popes have a Vendetta against each other you know.
Always playing the victim is wrong. You have a lot of legal issues over your past behavior re: OSA. I get it.
I don’t need to do this. I’m just a Wog/Sci in name only trying to help you.
But you all live in a bubble. You will not give back.]]></description>
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<p>This is not really about your blog or the parking lot video post. Your show paid me $150 in Season 1 for Gold Base photos.  That means you are my employer.  This is about you being my Hwd producer and I want to discuss your choice of what you promo on A&amp;E/this blog etc.<br />
I apologize to you re: previous comm line and I meant no offense to the well meaning and diligent person who posted the Atlanta report. Don’t be intimidated by Anonymous. My comment  was just a final video straw remark as a childish means of getting your attention. It highlights my frustration at what I think is an unintentional bias you/Leah/others have as previously brainwashed people. I simply want to give some constructive criticism to try and get you up to the next dynamic, the dynamic beyond interviewing the same old non-Anons.<br />
Recognize Anonymous exists!<br />
While I am so glad A&amp;E used much of my work on the show few of you Ex’s ever even slightly recognize my, or other Anons like AnonOrange and Nasty Nathanial, exist. Only Karen DLC, who is known for teamwork w/Anons, gets it!<br />
I feel you are not consciously slighting us, you just are struggling to understand that we exist.  In the next dynamic up.<br />
You are in a kind of bubble world snow globe like the FL shot EDWARD SCISSORHANDS.  I realize being emotionally naked for a cause in the mass media can at times be overwhelming. BUT:<br />
RE HYPOCRISY I NEVER BAD MOUTH LRH in front of Scis.  TONY ORTEGA constantly does that online and yet you promote him. He displays a constantly insecure smarminess on the subject.  Fine. I only black PR LRH on March 13thin the presence of Scis.  I almost never do that. This video explains at about the halfway mark:<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpNM3KOaNeY" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpNM3KOaNeY</a><br />
RE: THE VIDEO shows the empty parking lot at the Hollywood Inn.  It is news to record what this location is up to and record it professionally.<br />
We ask:<br />
Hi.<br />
How are you?<br />
Where are you on the bridge?<br />
Would you like to come talk to us and tell us if you are vaccinated or not?<br />
Where is [PAC security guard] Parker Osmon?<br />
I know the delivery is smarmy but the journalism is real. And concerned questions. Ron Miscavige’s book cover is clearly seen/promoted. The entheta is real for the guard. He stops disseminating Scientology.  I throw in an educational Karen DLC video re: TWTH. Why can’t you throw us a bone to promote it? How is this inferior to a Chris Shelton video?<br />
Perhaps you are broken and unable to work on a team from outside. I hope not! Relax! What more in this video is not “entheta” enough for you to recognize Nasty Nathanial and I did it? We both have credits in your Disney show. It is diligent for you, as a Producer/team player, to eventually recognize the contributions of the cast and crew. If you want to go to the next level in Hwd you must be more at cause. Relax!<br />
I’m clumsily expressing my frustration at the rut going on as you re-interview people. I am so tired of promoting you ex’s behind the scenes. Do you know how many times I have discussed w/my lawyer GB how he should be on your podcast/radio show? Or how about having me on?  I sell sell sell you behind the scenes.<br />
Karen covered AnonOrange’s lawyer’s house burning down. Why can’t you folks?  Why was AnonOrange’s Gold Base beating verboten in your promo campaign? Why don’t you promote anything I did with Karen? Her videos we did are great! You don’t need to post every day, esp. re: parking lots.<br />
How much aftermath foundation do we have to promote in Hwd before you realize we exist?<br />
GAY POPE BEING NICE PLAYLIST: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0YZZgj1G04rnj3w1cU_jEC07oc3zBRI4" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0YZZgj1G04rnj3w1cU_jEC07oc3zBRI4</a><br />
How about promoting something like this video:<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/7STlkd-WSeY" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/7STlkd-WSeY</a> &#8211; Quiet Enturbulation<br />
<a href="https://youtu.be/vtWsz0kIgFM" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/vtWsz0kIgFM</a> &#8211; We promote Aftermath foundation<br />
I understand how you don’t like jokers and degraders. I don’t care. I want to get them in trouble with DM. Also, they have had me charged/arrested for just standing on the street. I have every right to enturbulate them. </p>
<p>The point is I am trying to prevent your blog from falling into a rut by being not at cause and unable to go to the next dynamic.<br />
WHAT IF<br />
Just because part of what AGP does is controversial does not mean it all is<br />
DM does not want you to reach out to DM. The Angry Gay Popes have a Vendetta against each other you know.<br />
Always playing the victim is wrong. You have a lot of legal issues over your past behavior re: OSA. I get it.<br />
I don’t need to do this. I’m just a Wog/Sci in name only trying to help you.<br />
But you all live in a bubble. You will not give back.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2021 18:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/atlanta-10x-x-0-0x/#comment-397792&quot;&gt;SassMasterSupreme&lt;/a&gt;.

Nope]]></description>
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<p>Nope</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2021 16:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about Alabama? I personally know of one Scientologist in the Birmingham area. Is Scientology making progress in this state?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Alabama? I personally know of one Scientologist in the Birmingham area. Is Scientology making progress in this state?</p>
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		By: Atlanta Guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Atlanta Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2021 10:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/atlanta-10x-x-0-0x/#comment-397633&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I was staff. 

When we were sitting and watching the event just a few months after the grand opening, Jason Hemphill was bragging about the stats of the newly opened ideal org, we both looked at each other and said &quot;Is he talking about Atlanta??&quot; The numbers he was coming up with didn&#039;t match what we knew about the real stats, and we were very familiar with the real stats.

It was a hot mess. 

I knew it was the beginning of the end with so much regging of staff going on. This org was the poster child of financial irregularities.  I came to my senses and realized that scientology is one big financial irregularity.]]></description>
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<p>I was staff. </p>
<p>When we were sitting and watching the event just a few months after the grand opening, Jason Hemphill was bragging about the stats of the newly opened ideal org, we both looked at each other and said &#8220;Is he talking about Atlanta??&#8221; The numbers he was coming up with didn&#8217;t match what we knew about the real stats, and we were very familiar with the real stats.</p>
<p>It was a hot mess. </p>
<p>I knew it was the beginning of the end with so much regging of staff going on. This org was the poster child of financial irregularities.  I came to my senses and realized that scientology is one big financial irregularity.</p>
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		By: grisianfarce		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2021 05:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/atlanta-10x-x-0-0x/#comment-397527&quot;&gt;Smoore&lt;/a&gt;.

The end of season 2 was brilliant with Haley Joel Osment in &quot;A Thetan Arrives&quot;, so I was curious if that story line would be continued. Thanks for the heads up! Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/80201680]]></description>
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<p>The end of season 2 was brilliant with Haley Joel Osment in &#8220;A Thetan Arrives&#8221;, so I was curious if that story line would be continued. Thanks for the heads up! Netflix <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80201680" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.netflix.com/title/80201680</a></p>
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		By: Skyler23		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2021 21:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/atlanta-10x-x-0-0x/#comment-397663&quot;&gt;Sandy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for this tip Sandy.

I had tried to watch this show in the past but seeing it with Osmond playing an FTR (is that a valid abbreviation?) should make it a lot more fun to watch.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks for this tip Sandy.</p>
<p>I had tried to watch this show in the past but seeing it with Osmond playing an FTR (is that a valid abbreviation?) should make it a lot more fun to watch.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2021 20:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If one searches there are probably 15 - 20 videos of Ideal Morgues on Youtube.  ALL reveal empty buildings with few to no public.  The oldest one I saw was from about 15 years ago.  So, basically only the FSO has any paying public on a continuing basis.  After a couple days watching these I have changed my estimate of the number of non-staff REAL scamologists in the USA from ~5,000 to no more than 1,000.  (I&#039;m not counting active Solo Nuts people as they cannot be tracked like this)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one searches there are probably 15 &#8211; 20 videos of Ideal Morgues on Youtube.  ALL reveal empty buildings with few to no public.  The oldest one I saw was from about 15 years ago.  So, basically only the FSO has any paying public on a continuing basis.  After a couple days watching these I have changed my estimate of the number of non-staff REAL scamologists in the USA from ~5,000 to no more than 1,000.  (I&#8217;m not counting active Solo Nuts people as they cannot be tracked like this)</p>
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