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		By: Gus Cox		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127801</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gus Cox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2016 08:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127457&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Speaking of subtitles, I recall watching a German film (with a German friend) that had Arnold Schwartzenegger in it, and another actor had dubbed his voice.  I asked my friend why they would dub his lines, since Arnold can speak German.  &quot;Oh, it must be that horrible Austrian accent!&quot;  I cracked up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127457">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Speaking of subtitles, I recall watching a German film (with a German friend) that had Arnold Schwartzenegger in it, and another actor had dubbed his voice.  I asked my friend why they would dub his lines, since Arnold can speak German.  &#8220;Oh, it must be that horrible Austrian accent!&#8221;  I cracked up.</p>
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		By: Zephyr		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127760</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zephyr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2016 18:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127448&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds great OSD except for the tiny issue that the Germans DIDN&#039;T overtake Switzerland.
You got to have a safe place for your money!
Greta]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127448">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds great OSD except for the tiny issue that the Germans DIDN&#8217;T overtake Switzerland.<br />
You got to have a safe place for your money!<br />
Greta</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127688</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2016 06:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127682&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Well if it doesn&#039;t work why are you so bothered to make comments about it then? The only &quot;thought process&quot; exposed here is yours. Obviously there is something about &quot;the tek&quot; as you say that makes you very worried.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127682">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Well if it doesn&#8217;t work why are you so bothered to make comments about it then? The only &#8220;thought process&#8221; exposed here is yours. Obviously there is something about &#8220;the tek&#8221; as you say that makes you very worried.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127682</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127679&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Witty&quot;?  Perhaps.  But regardless, my statement was factual.  The first sentence I wrote is the telling point.  

The rest of your rant is just that.  Ranting.  It has nothing to do with what I wrote.  But it IS an interesting look at the &quot;thought process&quot; of a true believer.  Straw Man and the rest of the illogical mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127679">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Witty&#8221;?  Perhaps.  But regardless, my statement was factual.  The first sentence I wrote is the telling point.  </p>
<p>The rest of your rant is just that.  Ranting.  It has nothing to do with what I wrote.  But it IS an interesting look at the &#8220;thought process&#8221; of a true believer.  Straw Man and the rest of the illogical mess.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127679</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127624&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh! Very witty. Feel happier now do we? Nope you&#039;re right, Scientology is not for you. May you never change then. Carry on being like you are. Feel free! If you do ever ask for auditing make sure you ask for Power Processing as it is the only processes that would work for you. LMAO!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127624">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Oh! Very witty. Feel happier now do we? Nope you&#8217;re right, Scientology is not for you. May you never change then. Carry on being like you are. Feel free! If you do ever ask for auditing make sure you ask for Power Processing as it is the only processes that would work for you. LMAO!</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127624</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 06:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127594&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep Foolproof, all those scores of El Con created &#038; trained Oat Tea&#039;s + Hubbard hisself were unable to stop a &quot;complete lunatic and vicious swine&quot;.   

Wow, doesn&#039;t sound like such an empowering subject, the &quot;tek&quot;.  I was consulting for a large publicly traded company recently were the Board members just ousted a CEO who was like that.  No El Con &quot;tek&quot; needed.

LMAO!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127594">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Yep Foolproof, all those scores of El Con created &amp; trained Oat Tea&#8217;s + Hubbard hisself were unable to stop a &#8220;complete lunatic and vicious swine&#8221;.   </p>
<p>Wow, doesn&#8217;t sound like such an empowering subject, the &#8220;tek&#8221;.  I was consulting for a large publicly traded company recently were the Board members just ousted a CEO who was like that.  No El Con &#8220;tek&#8221; needed.</p>
<p>LMAO!</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And so it has come to pass... empty &quot;Ideal Orgs&quot; worldwide - the end result of 30+ years of snarling management types treating their public like shit, robbing them with their &quot;Donations Industry&quot;, diverting their public off the Bridge at any opportunity, selling them mounds of books which get thrown away or stored in cellars and garages gathering dust, getting rid of all their experienced Tech staff, &quot;3 swing F/Ns&quot;, ridiculously priced E-Meters, harsh and unnecessary Ethics actions on actually probably the most decent public an organization could wish for etc. etc. etc. 

And all because a complete lunatic and vicious swine who revels in the punishment he can mete out to others took it over and was continually supported by the non-actions of others who failed to stop him in his tracks. Quite a lot of the fools remaining in the Church actually believe he is doing good! The thing is it is all planned as well. Says it in the policies on Suppressive Persons in OEC Volume 1.

It wasn&#039;t always like that though - and my great hope is that one day it will change. My org was full, and people were receiving good services, but that was a long time ago now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so it has come to pass&#8230; empty &#8220;Ideal Orgs&#8221; worldwide &#8211; the end result of 30+ years of snarling management types treating their public like shit, robbing them with their &#8220;Donations Industry&#8221;, diverting their public off the Bridge at any opportunity, selling them mounds of books which get thrown away or stored in cellars and garages gathering dust, getting rid of all their experienced Tech staff, &#8220;3 swing F/Ns&#8221;, ridiculously priced E-Meters, harsh and unnecessary Ethics actions on actually probably the most decent public an organization could wish for etc. etc. etc. </p>
<p>And all because a complete lunatic and vicious swine who revels in the punishment he can mete out to others took it over and was continually supported by the non-actions of others who failed to stop him in his tracks. Quite a lot of the fools remaining in the Church actually believe he is doing good! The thing is it is all planned as well. Says it in the policies on Suppressive Persons in OEC Volume 1.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t always like that though &#8211; and my great hope is that one day it will change. My org was full, and people were receiving good services, but that was a long time ago now.</p>
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		By: pie_face		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127559</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127489&quot;&gt;Scott Henderson&lt;/a&gt;.

Those clouds look awful suspicious too......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127489">Scott Henderson</a>.</p>
<p>Those clouds look awful suspicious too&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Sleepy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127546</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sleepy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127534&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, I once met a keno runner who could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127534">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>Well, I once met a keno runner who could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.</p>
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		By: Sleepy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sleepy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127533&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

And if only Dave is left, they&#039;re on a rocket ride to the stars!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/basel-ideal-org/#comment-127533">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>And if only Dave is left, they&#8217;re on a rocket ride to the stars!</p>
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