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		By: Robert Sainburg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Sainburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 13:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/beating-a-dead-horse-sheeple/#comment-36647&quot;&gt;Karen#1&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you very much.]]></description>
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<p>Thank you very much.</p>
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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2014 03:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/beating-a-dead-horse-sheeple/#comment-36718&quot;&gt;Zephyr&lt;/a&gt;.

Greta,

First there was the Finance Police and then I guess they had to come up with the Make up police along with the fashion Police.

Yeah I remember them trying to enforce some kind of Dress Code on course and me refusing to abide by it by asking them where Ron says anything about a dress code in Students Guide to Acceptable Behavior and writing an orders query.

And me once again spending &quot;quality time&quot; in either ethics or qual for refusing to &quot;comply&quot; with yet another arbitrary in the era when All Arbitraries were supposedly canceled.

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<p>Greta,</p>
<p>First there was the Finance Police and then I guess they had to come up with the Make up police along with the fashion Police.</p>
<p>Yeah I remember them trying to enforce some kind of Dress Code on course and me refusing to abide by it by asking them where Ron says anything about a dress code in Students Guide to Acceptable Behavior and writing an orders query.</p>
<p>And me once again spending &#8220;quality time&#8221; in either ethics or qual for refusing to &#8220;comply&#8221; with yet another arbitrary in the era when All Arbitraries were supposedly canceled.</p>
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		By: DAoT		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/beating-a-dead-horse-sheeple/#comment-36608&quot;&gt;statpush&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, being &quot;on the ground&quot; during GAT 1, I can say this for certain fact: We started counting stats that didn&#039;t exist (at least, starting at Flag). So, now it&#039;s not just &quot;booms from depressions&quot;, but re-defining stats to increase them.

First, the GAT drills were worth about 5x what the original drills were worth (started counting by question or just flat out padded it by +400 points per drill).

Second, there used to be a &quot;minor comp&quot; and &quot;major comp&quot;. One was worth 1000, the other was.... 2000? We were ordered by Snr CS Int office to count any &quot;certainty courses&quot; or any GAT action as &quot;majors&quot;, even though some of them took less than a course period.

Finally, the re-definition of &quot;auditor made&quot;. This truly sickened me. If you finish theory, that was one auditor made. Finishing practical became another &quot;auditor made&quot;. Not sure how long that went on, but it was followed at Flag for the trainee&#039;s co-audits and levels.

Interesting point of fact: No Flag supervisor who supervised the GAT 1 is anywhere near a tech post (if they aren&#039;t off staff entirely - I believe Vittorio is still kicking around on another post; the rest are out). Of the trainees who helped finish the other OOTs through their programs (highly commended, given With Honors), not a single one is on a tech post, most are now entirely off staff (I believe one is still on staff).]]></description>
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<p>Well, being &#8220;on the ground&#8221; during GAT 1, I can say this for certain fact: We started counting stats that didn&#8217;t exist (at least, starting at Flag). So, now it&#8217;s not just &#8220;booms from depressions&#8221;, but re-defining stats to increase them.</p>
<p>First, the GAT drills were worth about 5x what the original drills were worth (started counting by question or just flat out padded it by +400 points per drill).</p>
<p>Second, there used to be a &#8220;minor comp&#8221; and &#8220;major comp&#8221;. One was worth 1000, the other was&#8230;. 2000? We were ordered by Snr CS Int office to count any &#8220;certainty courses&#8221; or any GAT action as &#8220;majors&#8221;, even though some of them took less than a course period.</p>
<p>Finally, the re-definition of &#8220;auditor made&#8221;. This truly sickened me. If you finish theory, that was one auditor made. Finishing practical became another &#8220;auditor made&#8221;. Not sure how long that went on, but it was followed at Flag for the trainee&#8217;s co-audits and levels.</p>
<p>Interesting point of fact: No Flag supervisor who supervised the GAT 1 is anywhere near a tech post (if they aren&#8217;t off staff entirely &#8211; I believe Vittorio is still kicking around on another post; the rest are out). Of the trainees who helped finish the other OOTs through their programs (highly commended, given With Honors), not a single one is on a tech post, most are now entirely off staff (I believe one is still on staff).</p>
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		By: Zephyr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 08:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/beating-a-dead-horse-sheeple/#comment-36646&quot;&gt;remoteviewed&lt;/a&gt;.

Damn, you&#039;re good RV!
In stitches about the nose bleed section in the Shrine, thank you! :)

Nothing to add except your last para re dressed up RPFers reminded me of the PAC RPF in &#039;96 where they forbade the female genre to apply make-up so we would be less of a distraction to the guys. Since this was stupid and not per any LRH ref I kept right on applying my make-up, which then got forcefully removed from my eye-lids by some delegated RPF&#039; RPF police pinning  my body down on the floor to remove the &#039;forbidden substance&#039;.
Of course when media showed up we had ORDER to put ON make-up to show the media/world how good
looking and happy we were on our &#039;Rehabilitation Program&#039;
Greta]]></description>
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<p>Damn, you&#8217;re good RV!<br />
In stitches about the nose bleed section in the Shrine, thank you! 🙂</p>
<p>Nothing to add except your last para re dressed up RPFers reminded me of the PAC RPF in &#8217;96 where they forbade the female genre to apply make-up so we would be less of a distraction to the guys. Since this was stupid and not per any LRH ref I kept right on applying my make-up, which then got forcefully removed from my eye-lids by some delegated RPF&#8217; RPF police pinning  my body down on the floor to remove the &#8216;forbidden substance&#8217;.<br />
Of course when media showed up we had ORDER to put ON make-up to show the media/world how good<br />
looking and happy we were on our &#8216;Rehabilitation Program&#8217;<br />
Greta</p>
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		By: Carcha		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 07:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/beating-a-dead-horse-sheeple/#comment-36588&quot;&gt;DollarMorgue&lt;/a&gt;.

Funny one about the student point. 

About the 1000 thing - its a standard church-tech inflator used to arrive at acceptable numbers. Divide by 1,000 and you have the correct answer. E.g. !0,000,000 church members divided by 1,000 = 10,000 church members. There are various other inflators in there, such as were common back in the days of Tammany Hall, such as dead people who felt such powerful political conviction that they voted from beyond the grave (not just once, but twice), so you get &quot;OT VII&quot; completions who are counted even though they are now back doing intro courses and auditing such as basics and objectives. True conviction ... but what were they convicted OF?]]></description>
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<p>Funny one about the student point. </p>
<p>About the 1000 thing &#8211; its a standard church-tech inflator used to arrive at acceptable numbers. Divide by 1,000 and you have the correct answer. E.g. !0,000,000 church members divided by 1,000 = 10,000 church members. There are various other inflators in there, such as were common back in the days of Tammany Hall, such as dead people who felt such powerful political conviction that they voted from beyond the grave (not just once, but twice), so you get &#8220;OT VII&#8221; completions who are counted even though they are now back doing intro courses and auditing such as basics and objectives. True conviction &#8230; but what were they convicted OF?</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 03:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/beating-a-dead-horse-sheeple/#comment-36594&quot;&gt;Deep Six&lt;/a&gt;.

Superb comment Deep Six. Well stated. And it hits the one of the many nails of &quot;management&quot; on its head. Talking of Foundation Course Schedules, did anyone realize that there was/is an HCO Policy from the mid 60s called obviously enough &quot;The Foundation&quot; which gives the attendance hours for Foundation students. But of course DM or one of his rabid dupe dogs has had issued another 1990 &quot;HCO PL&quot; called &quot;Course Schedules&quot; which slyly alters this and of course doesn&#039;t actually fully state what the expected hours are but implies that students should be full time. The LRH Foundation policy stated that students could be M-F or weekends or both. Very &quot;clever&quot; changing and superseding of an LRH HCO policy. When I pointed this Policy out to Execs demanding that all students be full time or nothing, I was told that the (LRH) policy was &quot;old and no longer in force&quot; and this by an OEC/FEBC grad (ha!) Of course the Academy emptied promptly when most students routed off as they could not do full time schedules. Total insanity. That mission to ASHO F was the same level of insanity. And thus we have empty Academies now. (As well as &quot;supervisors&quot; treating students as enemies to be crushed if they laugh at one LRH&#039;s quips, or look up at the ceiling as they are cogniting on something.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/beating-a-dead-horse-sheeple/#comment-36594">Deep Six</a>.</p>
<p>Superb comment Deep Six. Well stated. And it hits the one of the many nails of &#8220;management&#8221; on its head. Talking of Foundation Course Schedules, did anyone realize that there was/is an HCO Policy from the mid 60s called obviously enough &#8220;The Foundation&#8221; which gives the attendance hours for Foundation students. But of course DM or one of his rabid dupe dogs has had issued another 1990 &#8220;HCO PL&#8221; called &#8220;Course Schedules&#8221; which slyly alters this and of course doesn&#8217;t actually fully state what the expected hours are but implies that students should be full time. The LRH Foundation policy stated that students could be M-F or weekends or both. Very &#8220;clever&#8221; changing and superseding of an LRH HCO policy. When I pointed this Policy out to Execs demanding that all students be full time or nothing, I was told that the (LRH) policy was &#8220;old and no longer in force&#8221; and this by an OEC/FEBC grad (ha!) Of course the Academy emptied promptly when most students routed off as they could not do full time schedules. Total insanity. That mission to ASHO F was the same level of insanity. And thus we have empty Academies now. (As well as &#8220;supervisors&#8221; treating students as enemies to be crushed if they laugh at one LRH&#8217;s quips, or look up at the ceiling as they are cogniting on something.)</p>
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		By: Steph		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 03:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/beating-a-dead-horse-sheeple/#comment-36594&quot;&gt;Deep Six&lt;/a&gt;.

Bullseye, Deep Six ! 

What a pleasure to read your comment.

Operating on ONLY a weekly basis while I was on staff just about drove me nuts.  And every place I used to work is now either non-existent or struggling in a big way.]]></description>
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<p>Bullseye, Deep Six ! </p>
<p>What a pleasure to read your comment.</p>
<p>Operating on ONLY a weekly basis while I was on staff just about drove me nuts.  And every place I used to work is now either non-existent or struggling in a big way.</p>
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		By: MJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/beating-a-dead-horse-sheeple/#comment-36671&quot;&gt;Gerhard Waterkamp&lt;/a&gt;.

Looks like Ron could get deflated.]]></description>
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<p>Looks like Ron could get deflated.</p>
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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/beating-a-dead-horse-sheeple/#comment-36648&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Silly me,

I thought this had something to do with the actual Birthday Game.

Thanks for putting me straight Mike  ;)]]></description>
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<p>Silly me,</p>
<p>I thought this had something to do with the actual Birthday Game.</p>
<p>Thanks for putting me straight Mike  😉</p>
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		By: Gerhard Waterkamp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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Good to know.]]></description>
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<p>Good to know.</p>
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