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		By: cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-68104</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-68081&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Mike.  I&#039;ve notice a lot of Marty&#039;s posters are now appearing here because his blog is no longer being posted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-68081">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Mike.  I&#8217;ve notice a lot of Marty&#8217;s posters are now appearing here because his blog is no longer being posted.</p>
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		By: cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-68103</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 17:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67857&quot;&gt;windhorse&lt;/a&gt;.

+100]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67857">windhorse</a>.</p>
<p>+100</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-68081</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 15:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-68078&quot;&gt;Hiatus57&lt;/a&gt;.

I assume you are referring to the fact that I trashed your &lt;em&gt;ad hominem&lt;/em&gt; response?

Remain at least relatively polite and offer your opinions instead of trying to throw mud at someone else for expressing their opinion and passing judgment on their intelligence or state of mind and you can say practically anything you want here as long as it&#039;s on topic.

Turn this into an &lt;em&gt;ad hominem&lt;/em&gt; forum and you will find you are shut down.

BTW, windhorse is a she, not a he.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-68078">Hiatus57</a>.</p>
<p>I assume you are referring to the fact that I trashed your <em>ad hominem</em> response?</p>
<p>Remain at least relatively polite and offer your opinions instead of trying to throw mud at someone else for expressing their opinion and passing judgment on their intelligence or state of mind and you can say practically anything you want here as long as it&#8217;s on topic.</p>
<p>Turn this into an <em>ad hominem</em> forum and you will find you are shut down.</p>
<p>BTW, windhorse is a she, not a he.</p>
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		By: Hiatus57		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-68078</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hiatus57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 14:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67857&quot;&gt;windhorse&lt;/a&gt;.

So others get to reply and I don&#039;t?

Interesting that windhorse gets to post such utter uninspected drivel

I am not permitted to point out the oupoints in his statement then?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67857">windhorse</a>.</p>
<p>So others get to reply and I don&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Interesting that windhorse gets to post such utter uninspected drivel</p>
<p>I am not permitted to point out the oupoints in his statement then?</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jens TINGLEFF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 07:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67887&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you&#039;re getting the wrong impresion. I was never in, and am relating from newspaper articles and court documents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67887">Cece</a>.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re getting the wrong impresion. I was never in, and am relating from newspaper articles and court documents.</p>
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		By: JennyAtLAX (@JennyAtLAX)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-68034</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 03:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Bob Keenan was the most senior “PR” for scientology in the UK for many years. He was a trusted Miscavige lieutenant. Why would he be going to such lengths to distance himself from his past? Why is he trying to hide? &quot;Nobody has even noticed you&#039;re gone, man. That&#039;s the point. You&#039;re nothing.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Bob Keenan was the most senior “PR” for scientology in the UK for many years. He was a trusted Miscavige lieutenant. Why would he be going to such lengths to distance himself from his past? Why is he trying to hide? &#8220;Nobody has even noticed you&#8217;re gone, man. That&#8217;s the point. You&#8217;re nothing.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Hiatus57		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hiatus57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 23:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67844&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Understood Mike.

Perhaps that is why I refused to join the SO as I did not like being dictated to by totally untrained imbiciles who had no understanding of of what a Mission was supposed to do when it arrived.

Tech trained SO at St Hill, that was a different matter. 

These people I respected. 

But once you met the likes of Harvey Jaques and observed their behaviour you came to realise something was VERY wrong in the Org and being a minority the simple thing was to just walk away.

Having seen how its been over the last thirty years I feel it was the correct thing to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67844">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Understood Mike.</p>
<p>Perhaps that is why I refused to join the SO as I did not like being dictated to by totally untrained imbiciles who had no understanding of of what a Mission was supposed to do when it arrived.</p>
<p>Tech trained SO at St Hill, that was a different matter. </p>
<p>These people I respected. </p>
<p>But once you met the likes of Harvey Jaques and observed their behaviour you came to realise something was VERY wrong in the Org and being a minority the simple thing was to just walk away.</p>
<p>Having seen how its been over the last thirty years I feel it was the correct thing to do.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67892</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 03:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67821&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

That is pure evil. I am sorry you had to experience that Mike.

I am sorry for always pushing this. But I truly feel its important to look at:

This violence against normal people goes way back. The blue print for this evil was started here. Please read folks. 

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/roos/roos-books.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67821">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>That is pure evil. I am sorry you had to experience that Mike.</p>
<p>I am sorry for always pushing this. But I truly feel its important to look at:</p>
<p>This violence against normal people goes way back. The blue print for this evil was started here. Please read folks. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/roos/roos-books.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/roos/roos-books.html</a></p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cece]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 02:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wooo Jens.  Tell us all when you are ready.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wooo Jens.  Tell us all when you are ready.</p>
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		By: windhorse		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67857</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[windhorse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67840&quot;&gt;Hiatus57&lt;/a&gt;.

@Hiatus57---

While surely some will jump me for daring to say that SO life VS outside life IS different ... but it is.

Here&#039;s my take:

Harvey Jacques was mouthy.  Harvey Jacques was pushy.  Harvey Jacques DID NOT determine whether OR NOT you slept in your own bed that night.  Or would see your children the next day.

Harvey Jacques is a bully.  Fair enough.  Bullies typically will back down when someone stands up to them.

BUT IF he held the key to your next meal.  To your next 1-5 years (because IF you hit Harvey for SURE you were heading to the RPF) ... would you STILL be so sure what you would do?

Which is why --- Brian might think himself a broken record concerning LRH -- I consider myself a broken record concerning ...

HOW IN THE WORLD can anyone possibly know EXACTLY what is someones karma? Or  someone&#039;s future.? Or how damaged someone might be or how HORRIBLE someone is who takes a settlement and forever more is quiet. Or why Mike Rinder didn&#039;t punch that UK guy?

David Miscavige, his minions, the current people IN scientology who aren&#039;t looking, LRH  are FABULOUS opportunities to figure out ...

WHAT THE F*** am I doing in my life?  Why am I STILL constantly triggered by hearing of SO violence or 
people who chose to just walk away without a world.

WHAT????

If not you, then who? Is going to find answers that enable you to become who you apparently WANTED to be way back when you got involved.

And the answers --- as far as I can tell do not include somehow being incredulous that someone didn&#039;t act as you claim you would have done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bob-keenanrob-swan/#comment-67840">Hiatus57</a>.</p>
<p>@Hiatus57&#8212;</p>
<p>While surely some will jump me for daring to say that SO life VS outside life IS different &#8230; but it is.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my take:</p>
<p>Harvey Jacques was mouthy.  Harvey Jacques was pushy.  Harvey Jacques DID NOT determine whether OR NOT you slept in your own bed that night.  Or would see your children the next day.</p>
<p>Harvey Jacques is a bully.  Fair enough.  Bullies typically will back down when someone stands up to them.</p>
<p>BUT IF he held the key to your next meal.  To your next 1-5 years (because IF you hit Harvey for SURE you were heading to the RPF) &#8230; would you STILL be so sure what you would do?</p>
<p>Which is why &#8212; Brian might think himself a broken record concerning LRH &#8212; I consider myself a broken record concerning &#8230;</p>
<p>HOW IN THE WORLD can anyone possibly know EXACTLY what is someones karma? Or  someone&#8217;s future.? Or how damaged someone might be or how HORRIBLE someone is who takes a settlement and forever more is quiet. Or why Mike Rinder didn&#8217;t punch that UK guy?</p>
<p>David Miscavige, his minions, the current people IN scientology who aren&#8217;t looking, LRH  are FABULOUS opportunities to figure out &#8230;</p>
<p>WHAT THE F*** am I doing in my life?  Why am I STILL constantly triggered by hearing of SO violence or<br />
people who chose to just walk away without a world.</p>
<p>WHAT????</p>
<p>If not you, then who? Is going to find answers that enable you to become who you apparently WANTED to be way back when you got involved.</p>
<p>And the answers &#8212; as far as I can tell do not include somehow being incredulous that someone didn&#8217;t act as you claim you would have done.</p>
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