Don’t recall accusing anyone of anything……what do you think I’m accusing others of doing? And don’t hold back now, FP….

.94 Numb is what? .9 Sympathy is what? The only brainwashing is done by the people who do not look. You may give sympathy to a dump person – you can also give fear. What helps more. But why is numb an emotion?

Holy smoke- did I accidentally summon FP back to the comments section by mentioning his name?? I apologize profusely if that’s the case. I feel like I should try walking naked around an ancient live oak under a full moon while spitting over my left shoulder… hmmm- do you think that would work to banish him back to the ninth circle of idiocy from which he sprang?

Ken,

Must you be so tedious?

Brian,
Being new to this whole scene leaves me a little bit behind the eight ball, but I absolutely agree. I keep waiting to catch a glimpse of some magical argument that will make me understand the appeal- or at least something that makes sense in any form, but I haven’t heard a single original idea from anyone who has jumped in to “defend” Hubbard’s idiocy. It’s like all thought has been sucked out of them leaving a hollow husk that is only able to parrot their “leader”.

It’s like one of LRons science fiction stories: the evil leader has sucked all humanity out of the drones and unleashed them to destroy the planet…do you think it would sell???

Haha! Always the concern about fence sitters! I have stated many times both the Church and the Indies don’t want any riff-raff A-Jers so thanks Brain for driving them away or making their daft minds up for them. Well done! A Commendation for that man’s Ethics file. OSA should sign him up for a billion years!

And yet I recall you mentioned you were on staff for over 30 years harboring the disagreements you have now – and you say I am nuts! Seemed to take you a long time to come to any decision then eh? Did you get any auditing or training? Probably not eh! You probably spent most of your time doing what you are accusing others of now doing.

Now you even misunderstand my comment which was fairly straightforward. You are just embarrassing yourself further to anyone who has done some auditor training or studied even basic Scientology, unlike most of the “experts” commenting here.

FP, now you are showing your achilles’ heel. I am writing ideas that are not literal interpretations of the tone scale. I am refuting them with an original analysis (concetualizing)

Being literal is what you are doing by saying “what do your materials state”.

It’s like saying “what does the Bible say”. Fundamentalist believers in any ism are barred from doubting.

By doubting and having original thoughts on the tone scale, which I have done, requires original concepts (being conceptual).

You have demonstrated being a literalist by your actual words.

Think deeper, question and allow yourself to have independent analysis. I know you can do it. I know you can FP.

Be brave and shatter that wall to your intellectual sovereignty.