That’s it!

“An ACCUMULATION (emphasis mine) of ARC breaks” and because he has finally DECIDED to admit to himself that what he has observed is true.”

And then, at some point, which can vary from individual to individual, one DECIDES that one cannot continue to ignore/accept any more, and then, its enough, and one leaves.

So, fundamentally, its a question of TIME. How much time does each of them need?

I know how much time I needed. I had my share of ARC breaks in reality and communication, and then said “Enough”.

YOU had YOUR own share before you said “Enough”.

Each of us had our own share and decided in our OWN time what was “Enough”.

So for the Still Ins, its just a question of “What and how much of this shit can I continue to justify or ignore?”

Again, its just a matter of time.

Of course, for a portion of them, no time will be long enough. They’ll go down with the ship.

But then for the rest, they’ll each reach their “Enough” limit at some point and that point can and will vary with each individual.

BECAUSE THEY ALL SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE SAW. And each of us left in our own individual times.

I was already UTR, flying under the radar, having already decided that there was something quite wrong with Scientology, the organization, when I had that Ethics cycle with that ex-Sea Org lady – someone I liked very much, btw. I had had up until that time no ARC breaks with her. She was OK in my book in every way.

But when she effectively called LRH policy “entheta and enemy line” – woo! That cinched my decision! Totally cinched it!

Thanks for helping me sort this thru, Loosing 🙂

Aqua what you raise is a very good point.
In the end I think that each person who leaves has their own individual story, beside that at some point we all said ‘enough!’ when we became aware of something and understood that we couldn’t close our eyes anymore.
The fact that one goes away for overt or MU is bullshit, used to leverage the sense of guilt. One leaves for one reason only, an accumulation of “ARC breaks” and because he has finally DECIDED to admit to himself that what he has observed is true.
Those who are still in there have certainly seen things but they have kept justifying them.
Life is just a matter of experiencing and becoming aware, however many need to experience something more before waking up and stepping out of that – only mental – view of how things are.
Scn is a great gym for this: it can create ‘ARC breaks’ at will. And one day someone wakes up and says “What am I doing? I can’t have it anymore. Go to hell scn!”

Grammar Nazi Alert: “…I don’t see any risks, any losses, any fears that those Still In know and dread that any of those who left knew and dreaded”.

I agree with you, Loosing – it IS a shame, but then, what’s wrong with those still in who cannot or will not see what thousands before them saw? Including us. WE saw it; we “woke up and smelled the coffee”; WE saw what was plainly in front of our faces; why cannot or will not THEY?
Are we so much more intelligent/aware/perceptive etc., etc., than they?
Respectfully, I don’t happen to think so.

Did WE (collectively) have so much LESS to lose than they? Did we (again, collectively, I’m not speaking of myself) who left not have parents, children, spouses, friends, businesses, etc., also to worry about losing if we left?

Obviously that’s not the case. Those who have left have suffered TREMENDOUS losses – precious loved ones lost due to Disconnection, businesses due to Fair Game, etc.

So I ask again; what’s wrong with those still ins who cannot or will not see what we clearly saw? Why can’t they leave? No one’s saying its EASY. It wasn’t easy for us either. Yet we did it. Why not they?

Perhaps the answer is that they see it very well also, just as we did. And just as we were, they are very scared to leave because of the dreaded consequences. But unlike us, their fear was stronger than their – dare I say it without sounding like a pompous ass? – their integrity.

Myself excepted, most who saw and left were just as scared, just as at risk in every way as those who are still in. Most who have left have suffered loss of health, wealth, and the permanent loss of people they loved, people who meant everything to them. Those who left also had to confront the fact of having wasted decades of their lives on a false dream.

As regards their leaving the cult, I don’t see any risks, any losses, any fears that those Still In know and dread than any of those who left know and dread.

And yet, some still stay in.

You think they don’t know?

Don’t kid yourselves.

They know. They KNOW!

The fears they have when they contemplate leaving are the fears WE had when we contemplated leaving. There’s nothing they’re grappling with that those who left didn’t have to grapple with!

Yet THEY stay.

How are those who stay in different from those who left? Circumstantially or otherwise?

I did that once with someone who tried to sell me on a pyramid scheme that was popular at the time. Most fun I had for years.

Gus,
But, but…buh-buh-buh-but…
Postulates! Theta! Blatherations senior to splatter!
Mental Ass and Secondary Sass! The Whole Track Tech
Of Twerking and Jerking, Collecting Money…and Smirking!
Rising Above The Expanding Bunghole Of Hubbard To
Nuzzle The Macallan Pickled Sac of McDamage!
Teegeeackian Rough Trade at its scummiest,
Ramen🙌💩💣😉

Ms. B,
Great Point.
If it smells fecal, looks fecal, and smears fecal, but does NOT fertilize, then…it’s dianutics and scienbollocky!

One of the things that always upset me about Sci and it’s lie that it was a religion is that it priced itself out of the religion business. Most all religions offer their scriptures for free. Oh they’ll gouge you for money endlessly but the actual sacred words and scriptures are free. They want everyone. Unlike Sci who only wants the rich and prices accordingly. What they end up with are the in-betweens. Those who aren’t rich but aren’t poor…yet they know poor and don’t like it so they desperately want to move on up to that next level. Well here’s Scientology. Some of the wealthiest people belong. So there must be something to it. And if I join maybe everyone will think I’m wealthy as well…maybe I’ll meet those wealthy acolytes…maybe they can help me out since we all belong to the same group. So Sci gets a handful of super wealthy and the rest are wannabes and ladder climbers (Joy Villa anyone…Vic Tipnes…I could go on but won’t).

You nailed that right on the head! No one is that gullible. Everyone I know would have whipped out their smartphone and Amazoned the book IF they were even remotely interested. Then googled the author (I would say 90% of people have heard of Hubbard). That would have changed this bogus dialog quite a bit. Like you I call ‘FAKE’!

Yeah they throw away every copy of DMSMH they get ‘donated’ here at our local libraries. Lol. And for the biggest scam of the century and part of the non-ending fundraising that is currently the COS…the Basics Books Scam. Every one was regged endlessly to buy multiple sets and when garages and attics were overflowing with Basics Sets everyone was regged to buy copies that were to be donated to public libraries all over the US. Guess what… I called every library in a 200 mile radius of where I live to see if they’d been donated since I couldn’t see them on their online card catalog of available books (thought they’d probably been tossed). No Basics Sets delivered to any number of libraries. Not one library received even one set nevertheless multiple sets since every public was regged for at least one library copy. I’m willing to bet that $ was just stuck in Dave’s pocket and the books weren’t even printed.