See response to Robin. No more comments on this. You have both had your final say….

Robin,

The link to which I directed you is very well documented:
http://www.xenu-directory.net/critics/ambry1.html

READ IT.

Anyone who knows John Sanborn, knows he is an honest man. His account rings true, and it rings true for almost everyone except Scientologists, and far right wing conspiracy buffs who fell for the Scientology lingo-filled manual, believing it to be authentic.

I checked out Abe Books, and they are a clearing house for new and used books. It was started in 1996. There is no mention of a 1952 Brainwashing Manual. The date given is 1955.

The link you provided in an earlier post is to a group that worked – as “independent religious experts” – for Miscavige’s Church of Scientology. Not impressive, and even less credible.

Yes, Hubbard’s Brainwashing manual includes more than just “brainwashing.”

Read the link I gave you.

No more comments on this subject. It just goes on and on and will never end apparently.

Ed, let me add: Why are not LRH’s books sold in bookstores? Have you ever asked yourself, or anyone, in the Church, this question? We Indies know why – do you?

Jane Doe, the full truth of what you have communicated yet so succinctly is blowing me away.

There I am 🙂

Actually whoever composed this list did a good job.

Truth be told I never resigned by the Church.

It was more accurately a “time out”.

I said to anyone who is still on lines who talked to me that I may consider coming back after Miscavige was removed from post and all the squirrel tech he is responsible for is canceled and abolished.

Till then I’ll be happy to have the label I’ve held for many years after the coup take over.

“Disaffected”

😉

ExRPFer, Jesus, what a nightmare. The extent of the injustice, the downright heartlessness and cruelty – it is beyond insane.

B Webb,

I read the link you gave me which consisted of nothing but a bunch of hearsay. Some of it contradictory.

Does Sanborn have any other evidence other than say he was there, like maybe the actual dictaphone tape or the actual manuscript?

At least the link I gave you is a *documented* fact an actual article.

A reputable bookstore that says it has a first edition copy published in 1952.

Maybe it’s a false flag but I’ll let you sort that out.

You’ve got nothing but a link to a bunch of unverified ramblings and biased “research”.

Another thing is you never gave me any documented evidence on how Hubbard included the manual in his later writings.

Actually the irony is that you are right to a certain degree.

Since the manual isn’t really about “brain washing” per se i.e. creating a “Manchurian Candidate” per Condon’s book and the movie by Frankenheimer but mostly about infiltrating and influencing groups and organizations which is covered in HCOB 23 June 1960 “Special Zone Plan”.

You can read the HCOB for yourself which is in the Tech Vols. I am not going to post its various interpretations that abound on the disinformation superhighway.

Anyone who has actually *read* the manual would know this.

http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/brainwsh.shtml

“Brain Washing” i.e. creating a “Manchurian Candidate” is actually better described in the book ‘Science of Survival’ in the section on “narcosynthesis” or “Pain Drug Hypnosis”:

http://dmedia.ucsc.edu/~vdemaso/asg3/aum/SECTION_2/09.htm

And in a book by John Marks entitled ‘The Search for the Manchurian Candidate’:

http://www.psychedelic-library.org/marks.htm

Which actually gives a description of “brain washing”.

http://www.psychedelic-library.org/marks8.htm