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		By: Zenster Zenly		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-158388</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2017 15:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While it seems there are still a few die-hard LA type celebrities still in Scientology, over here in New York City I can tell you this - I walk my dog to Central Park every day and pass by the NYC Celebrity Center on East 82nd Street and NOT ONCE have I ever seen anyone go in or come out. Only the same sad looking older woman sitting at the Reception desk wondering when will the way to happiness train come and get me?

Seems like no one in New York City is dumb enough to fall for a con for money that promises after years of mind-numbing repetitive useless auditing commands you will be allowed to read a ridiculous comic book about Xenu and the Body Thetans. Oh, and rarely a day goes by that I do not pass a TV or movie shoot, they are making so many shows in New York City these days - and no Scientologists involved ever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it seems there are still a few die-hard LA type celebrities still in Scientology, over here in New York City I can tell you this &#8211; I walk my dog to Central Park every day and pass by the NYC Celebrity Center on East 82nd Street and NOT ONCE have I ever seen anyone go in or come out. Only the same sad looking older woman sitting at the Reception desk wondering when will the way to happiness train come and get me?</p>
<p>Seems like no one in New York City is dumb enough to fall for a con for money that promises after years of mind-numbing repetitive useless auditing commands you will be allowed to read a ridiculous comic book about Xenu and the Body Thetans. Oh, and rarely a day goes by that I do not pass a TV or movie shoot, they are making so many shows in New York City these days &#8211; and no Scientologists involved ever.</p>
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		By: Laurie Schut		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 23:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about Juliet Lewis? She&#039;s an A-lister, but I don&#039;t think she&#039;s done many movies recently. She was a minor player in the flop tv show, Wayward Pines...? I love how they call Leah a &quot;has-been actress&quot;, when she&#039;s got the best show on TV right now (should win awards...like...A LOT OF THEM). Kirstie Alley has only done 10 episodes of the mildly interesting &quot;Scream Queens&quot;, and before that, almost nothing for a long time. Just bit parts, one of which was on...wait for it...THE KING OF QUEENS!  And Travolta did the OJ series, which I thought was good, but he hasn&#039;t been in any really good movies/tv since...ummm...wait. It&#039;ll come to me....  So really, WHO&#039;S the &quot;has-been&quot;? And Cruise? His movies are average, at best. Imho, he&#039;s slowly but steadily gone downhill since cheating on Nicole, who btw, after/during the breakup with TC, made a few really good movies! 
Basically, as Mike says, they can&#039;t keep leaning on celebs. I believe if all they can come up with are a few relevant celebs, a few irrelevant celebs, as well as a DEAD ONE (Carole Lombard...really?) you have to consider Miscavige is pooping his pants about now. Even Cruise can&#039;t completely recover from the idiotic things he&#039;s done...and the body he&#039;s presently using is getting old, soooo....just sayin&#039;. YOU&#039;RE KICKIN&#039; IT LEAH AND MIKE!!! Love you and everything you&#039;re doing that TRULY makes this a &quot;better planet&quot;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Juliet Lewis? She&#8217;s an A-lister, but I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;s done many movies recently. She was a minor player in the flop tv show, Wayward Pines&#8230;? I love how they call Leah a &#8220;has-been actress&#8221;, when she&#8217;s got the best show on TV right now (should win awards&#8230;like&#8230;A LOT OF THEM). Kirstie Alley has only done 10 episodes of the mildly interesting &#8220;Scream Queens&#8221;, and before that, almost nothing for a long time. Just bit parts, one of which was on&#8230;wait for it&#8230;THE KING OF QUEENS!  And Travolta did the OJ series, which I thought was good, but he hasn&#8217;t been in any really good movies/tv since&#8230;ummm&#8230;wait. It&#8217;ll come to me&#8230;.  So really, WHO&#8217;S the &#8220;has-been&#8221;? And Cruise? His movies are average, at best. Imho, he&#8217;s slowly but steadily gone downhill since cheating on Nicole, who btw, after/during the breakup with TC, made a few really good movies!<br />
Basically, as Mike says, they can&#8217;t keep leaning on celebs. I believe if all they can come up with are a few relevant celebs, a few irrelevant celebs, as well as a DEAD ONE (Carole Lombard&#8230;really?) you have to consider Miscavige is pooping his pants about now. Even Cruise can&#8217;t completely recover from the idiotic things he&#8217;s done&#8230;and the body he&#8217;s presently using is getting old, soooo&#8230;.just sayin&#8217;. YOU&#8217;RE KICKIN&#8217; IT LEAH AND MIKE!!! Love you and everything you&#8217;re doing that TRULY makes this a &#8220;better planet&#8221;!</p>
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		By: Pierre Dominick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2017 15:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Too many North American are spellbound by celebrities, a celebrity can do drug, alcohol, or be a paedophile and scum of the earth nonetheless if he or she would run for a presidency or leader of any kind he/she would be voted in.
In retaliation you can bet that Scientology will be using Tom, John and other celebrities to fight back because whatever those stars will say, too many American will believe it so you and Leah are in for a though fight but you have social media on your side and you can reach millions of people, what you need is a few celebrities of your own to get your message to millions more....keep those stories coming]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many North American are spellbound by celebrities, a celebrity can do drug, alcohol, or be a paedophile and scum of the earth nonetheless if he or she would run for a presidency or leader of any kind he/she would be voted in.<br />
In retaliation you can bet that Scientology will be using Tom, John and other celebrities to fight back because whatever those stars will say, too many American will believe it so you and Leah are in for a though fight but you have social media on your side and you can reach millions of people, what you need is a few celebrities of your own to get your message to millions more&#8230;.keep those stories coming</p>
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		By: Terri		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2016 07:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-156095&quot;&gt;Marge Strong&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree w what you felt &#038; saw some of us knew ? was off if a &quot;Church&quot; is doing such great things why not tell the ppl about them but then again just the way there programmed &#038; way they speak they sound nuts &#038; not there fault it&#039;s taught &#038; told to do,I watch over &#038; over this program &#038; I get lil more each time but this one place acts like a whole bunch wrapped into one,they act as nutty as J Edgar Hoover w his wiretaps &#038; watching ppl &#038; telling ppl to live with Military standards which is fine for the ppl in the Military but Jail &#038; hard labor &#038; police w E meter crap &#038; add Chutes &#038; Ladders game &#038; boy I wonder if Dave M dose the E meter or dose he feel he&#039;s perfect &#038; beating ppl up is a crime along w theft,harassment and FEAR isn&#039;t right to use &#038; sure few others &#038; go figure a writer came up with this Imagine that plus how are they helping the planet or crime def a Sci story but they could&#039;ve done ? good by now least help remove that floating trash in the ocean,wonder what they do at Sea but your right &#038; now were getting Facts &#038; Truth..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-156095">Marge Strong</a>.</p>
<p>I agree w what you felt &amp; saw some of us knew ? was off if a &#8220;Church&#8221; is doing such great things why not tell the ppl about them but then again just the way there programmed &amp; way they speak they sound nuts &amp; not there fault it&#8217;s taught &amp; told to do,I watch over &amp; over this program &amp; I get lil more each time but this one place acts like a whole bunch wrapped into one,they act as nutty as J Edgar Hoover w his wiretaps &amp; watching ppl &amp; telling ppl to live with Military standards which is fine for the ppl in the Military but Jail &amp; hard labor &amp; police w E meter crap &amp; add Chutes &amp; Ladders game &amp; boy I wonder if Dave M dose the E meter or dose he feel he&#8217;s perfect &amp; beating ppl up is a crime along w theft,harassment and FEAR isn&#8217;t right to use &amp; sure few others &amp; go figure a writer came up with this Imagine that plus how are they helping the planet or crime def a Sci story but they could&#8217;ve done ? good by now least help remove that floating trash in the ocean,wonder what they do at Sea but your right &amp; now were getting Facts &amp; Truth..</p>
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		By: Marge Strong		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2016 02:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Mike,
You and Leah are heroes in the fight to expose scientology.  I&#039;ve seen all episodes so far and am appauled at the abuses exposed on the series.  I&#039;ve lived in Pinellas County for 45 years and am very aware of the Scientology presence and esp. in Clearwater.  It&#039;s common knowledge among those of us who are non-Scientoligists that they are a Cult.  Newspaper articles, law suits, unexplained deaths.  If they really wanted to increase their numbers, why are the doors locked and guarded from the general public?  Most all other churches welcome people to come in, look around, etc.  Not Scientology.  They remind me of Russia&#039;s KGB the way they snoop around people&#039;s lives, lock people up, abuse people, tell on each other, lie, lie and lie again.  Thank you for what you are doing Mike and Leah.  I went to the other website and read some deplorable accusations toward you Mike, even from your family members.  They are displaying , I believe, what is being demanded of them if they hope to stay in the church--FEAR.  So  they are lying about you Mike (though perhaps you were abusive as a requirement of position while you were in the church)?  Still, I&#039;ve heard you apologize and considering circumstances of your beliefs at the time you were an avid apostle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mike,<br />
You and Leah are heroes in the fight to expose scientology.  I&#8217;ve seen all episodes so far and am appauled at the abuses exposed on the series.  I&#8217;ve lived in Pinellas County for 45 years and am very aware of the Scientology presence and esp. in Clearwater.  It&#8217;s common knowledge among those of us who are non-Scientoligists that they are a Cult.  Newspaper articles, law suits, unexplained deaths.  If they really wanted to increase their numbers, why are the doors locked and guarded from the general public?  Most all other churches welcome people to come in, look around, etc.  Not Scientology.  They remind me of Russia&#8217;s KGB the way they snoop around people&#8217;s lives, lock people up, abuse people, tell on each other, lie, lie and lie again.  Thank you for what you are doing Mike and Leah.  I went to the other website and read some deplorable accusations toward you Mike, even from your family members.  They are displaying , I believe, what is being demanded of them if they hope to stay in the church&#8211;FEAR.  So  they are lying about you Mike (though perhaps you were abusive as a requirement of position while you were in the church)?  Still, I&#8217;ve heard you apologize and considering circumstances of your beliefs at the time you were an avid apostle.</p>
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		By: Terri		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2016 17:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155764&quot;&gt;Happier Now&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not a violent person but I wouldn&#039;t mind ? giving DM a good smack around or lil more to knock him off his high horse long as horse is reg size,I&#039;m sorry but this guy bugs me &#038; try not to judge anyone but ppl who abuse others need to STOP &#038; I&#039;m kinda surprised ? hasn&#039;t already.My 2 cents.. Merry Xmas]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155764">Happier Now</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a violent person but I wouldn&#8217;t mind ? giving DM a good smack around or lil more to knock him off his high horse long as horse is reg size,I&#8217;m sorry but this guy bugs me &amp; try not to judge anyone but ppl who abuse others need to STOP &amp; I&#8217;m kinda surprised ? hasn&#8217;t already.My 2 cents.. Merry Xmas</p>
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		By: Terri		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155841</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2016 00:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155764&quot;&gt;Happier Now&lt;/a&gt;.

if ppl are Not allowed to ask questions &#038; have limited outside facts lil wonder they buy into this which seems more like propaganda &#038; all the recording,spying along w other stuff sounds like J Edgar Hoover &#038; Feds and we have heard about him dressing in woman&#039;s clothes not a huge  deal but to spy &#038; tape others just is a sick person who dose that...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155764">Happier Now</a>.</p>
<p>if ppl are Not allowed to ask questions &amp; have limited outside facts lil wonder they buy into this which seems more like propaganda &amp; all the recording,spying along w other stuff sounds like J Edgar Hoover &amp; Feds and we have heard about him dressing in woman&#8217;s clothes not a huge  deal but to spy &amp; tape others just is a sick person who dose that&#8230;</p>
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		By: Happier Now		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2016 06:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155408&quot;&gt;lr&lt;/a&gt;.

The reason Scientologists think they are bettering the planet is that they are told about all these good things being done, then asked for donations to help, and flattered big time for donating. Then there are multiple &quot;events&quot; every year, held at headquarters and &quot;broadcast&quot; to all the Orgs. Videos are shown documenting accomplishments  by Narcanon, and Volunteer Ministers, and IAS etc. there is a LOT of hype in the videos and speeches, all sorts of amazing statistics about how Scientology is &quot;Clearing the planet&quot; (meaning &quot;we are WINNING&quot;... and then people are hit up for donations to these Scientology organizations.  Plus once they have your address they send out lots of promotional mail and several magazines every quarter or so, with more hype.  The goals most have when getting in is to become a better person and to help mankind, so why wouldn&#039;t you believe that you are doing a good thing, right? After all, you&#039;ve seen the &quot;proof&quot;!  If you check out the scientology website, you can get a taste of it.  Just don&#039;t EVER give them your address or contact info!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155408">lr</a>.</p>
<p>The reason Scientologists think they are bettering the planet is that they are told about all these good things being done, then asked for donations to help, and flattered big time for donating. Then there are multiple &#8220;events&#8221; every year, held at headquarters and &#8220;broadcast&#8221; to all the Orgs. Videos are shown documenting accomplishments  by Narcanon, and Volunteer Ministers, and IAS etc. there is a LOT of hype in the videos and speeches, all sorts of amazing statistics about how Scientology is &#8220;Clearing the planet&#8221; (meaning &#8220;we are WINNING&#8221;&#8230; and then people are hit up for donations to these Scientology organizations.  Plus once they have your address they send out lots of promotional mail and several magazines every quarter or so, with more hype.  The goals most have when getting in is to become a better person and to help mankind, so why wouldn&#8217;t you believe that you are doing a good thing, right? After all, you&#8217;ve seen the &#8220;proof&#8221;!  If you check out the scientology website, you can get a taste of it.  Just don&#8217;t EVER give them your address or contact info!</p>
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		By: Terri		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2016 04:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155647&quot;&gt;LindseyA&lt;/a&gt;.

If I had pick between Tom &#038; John I&#039;d go w John &#038; over the years ppl talked about Gay rumors which in all honesty wouldn&#039;t change my mind about liking him as an actor but I can&#039;t stop thinking about that E meter &#038; what if he was &#038; what if they black mailed him to stay in,I keep getting a feeling there&#039;s more &#038; TC grew up w an abusive father so might explain being in circle of abuse some go from abuse to being around abusers,but he figured his father out but blind to D.M but I know it can happen &#038; U know whatever is wrong/off if your really rich &#038; great catch but U can&#039;t seem to keep a wife esp when he&#039;s that close to knowing the meaning of life or ? he thinks maybe he needs more classes IMO a shrink might be best  place nothing wrong with going but you&#039;d think if Ron Hubbard had all the answers they&#039;d help ppl with marriage issues under Vol 89899 jk there but I agree w there Lack of finding ? to come speak up rather than a typed paper deny everything guess ? needs hit that E Meter or better yet Bring both sides to the table &#038; have ? outside read who&#039;s being truthful &#038; who&#039;s Lying esp while they claim Leah &#038; rest all liars well Bring it put your cards out &#038; lets see or there Cowards just like a Bully when you face them head on,well keep it up all of you &#038; try not to blame yourselves U did what you thought was right at the time but now U have truth....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155647">LindseyA</a>.</p>
<p>If I had pick between Tom &amp; John I&#8217;d go w John &amp; over the years ppl talked about Gay rumors which in all honesty wouldn&#8217;t change my mind about liking him as an actor but I can&#8217;t stop thinking about that E meter &amp; what if he was &amp; what if they black mailed him to stay in,I keep getting a feeling there&#8217;s more &amp; TC grew up w an abusive father so might explain being in circle of abuse some go from abuse to being around abusers,but he figured his father out but blind to D.M but I know it can happen &amp; U know whatever is wrong/off if your really rich &amp; great catch but U can&#8217;t seem to keep a wife esp when he&#8217;s that close to knowing the meaning of life or ? he thinks maybe he needs more classes IMO a shrink might be best  place nothing wrong with going but you&#8217;d think if Ron Hubbard had all the answers they&#8217;d help ppl with marriage issues under Vol 89899 jk there but I agree w there Lack of finding ? to come speak up rather than a typed paper deny everything guess ? needs hit that E Meter or better yet Bring both sides to the table &amp; have ? outside read who&#8217;s being truthful &amp; who&#8217;s Lying esp while they claim Leah &amp; rest all liars well Bring it put your cards out &amp; lets see or there Cowards just like a Bully when you face them head on,well keep it up all of you &amp; try not to blame yourselves U did what you thought was right at the time but now U have truth&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Terri		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2016 00:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155647&quot;&gt;LindseyA&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Lindsey I had no clue about them either but had a gut feeling ? wasn&#039;t right but after watching this show &#038; there&#039;s a Utube guy who was on the show tells so much it&#039;s close to a brain Info Overload but w him &#038; the show I Get It &#038; the easiest way I can explain it is being in an abusive relationship,it starts off good caring,Loving &#038; then your with them all the time they&#039;d rather you not go see your family,friends &#038; at 1st seems cute they really Luv you so much they just want U to be w them all the time,then lil things come up maybe by mean words or ? not this loving caring person but you&#039;ve done nothing so you think wow this must be Me not them but it cont&#039;s to go on &#038; it can get like U feel like it&#039;s gotta be me even if you&#039;ve done nothing wrong to deserve the mean words or actions &#038; often they blame you for doing things w ? else so after awhile you just don&#039;t bother to go anywhere seeing they&#039;ll find ? you did wrong &#038; prob will even if you go nowhere &#038; fights may start &#038; some w say I&#039;m gonna take the child your unfit &#038; when you stay too long you honestly feel it&#039;s you &#038; your bad and worthless and afraid to tell anyone,will they believe you seeing your so bad &#038; many times you have no money friends are gone &#038; the shame of telling family of abuse Oh I&#039;ve been there done it &#038; even when I told my own mother didn&#039;t believe me,yeah I put these marks on myself but we all have our breaking point &#038; I left w my kid &#038; clothes no money I was done,I went through harassment &#038; more Fear but that held me lil while but I had enough,so to get ppl in there not gonna be jerks,rude but more likely charming,happy while getting your money but when your eye&#039;s see things seem off there&#039;s a good chance it&#039;s there Fault &#038; by then your in &#038; prob scared and good chance good reason but Ron Hubbard was in Navy &#038; if U screw up in Navy sure U get crap duty or Jail so sure plenty walk on eggshells &#038; who can they talk with who won&#039;t turn them in they seem to spend most there time &#038; money with this place I can&#039;t call it a church but I&#039;m sure they give lil crumbs of good that&#039;s how good abusers work &#038; these ppl tend to be charmers but like I said the more I hear &#038; see it sure seems like abuse to me &#038; they have that big ship why have they not help clean that huge floating Trash out there but when ? tries to separate family&#039;s that&#039;s time to keep them closer &#038; I&#039;ve been praying for them &#038; others that they get out and back to the ppl who really Love them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/celebrity-round-up/#comment-155647">LindseyA</a>.</p>
<p>Hello Lindsey I had no clue about them either but had a gut feeling ? wasn&#8217;t right but after watching this show &amp; there&#8217;s a Utube guy who was on the show tells so much it&#8217;s close to a brain Info Overload but w him &amp; the show I Get It &amp; the easiest way I can explain it is being in an abusive relationship,it starts off good caring,Loving &amp; then your with them all the time they&#8217;d rather you not go see your family,friends &amp; at 1st seems cute they really Luv you so much they just want U to be w them all the time,then lil things come up maybe by mean words or ? not this loving caring person but you&#8217;ve done nothing so you think wow this must be Me not them but it cont&#8217;s to go on &amp; it can get like U feel like it&#8217;s gotta be me even if you&#8217;ve done nothing wrong to deserve the mean words or actions &amp; often they blame you for doing things w ? else so after awhile you just don&#8217;t bother to go anywhere seeing they&#8217;ll find ? you did wrong &amp; prob will even if you go nowhere &amp; fights may start &amp; some w say I&#8217;m gonna take the child your unfit &amp; when you stay too long you honestly feel it&#8217;s you &amp; your bad and worthless and afraid to tell anyone,will they believe you seeing your so bad &amp; many times you have no money friends are gone &amp; the shame of telling family of abuse Oh I&#8217;ve been there done it &amp; even when I told my own mother didn&#8217;t believe me,yeah I put these marks on myself but we all have our breaking point &amp; I left w my kid &amp; clothes no money I was done,I went through harassment &amp; more Fear but that held me lil while but I had enough,so to get ppl in there not gonna be jerks,rude but more likely charming,happy while getting your money but when your eye&#8217;s see things seem off there&#8217;s a good chance it&#8217;s there Fault &amp; by then your in &amp; prob scared and good chance good reason but Ron Hubbard was in Navy &amp; if U screw up in Navy sure U get crap duty or Jail so sure plenty walk on eggshells &amp; who can they talk with who won&#8217;t turn them in they seem to spend most there time &amp; money with this place I can&#8217;t call it a church but I&#8217;m sure they give lil crumbs of good that&#8217;s how good abusers work &amp; these ppl tend to be charmers but like I said the more I hear &amp; see it sure seems like abuse to me &amp; they have that big ship why have they not help clean that huge floating Trash out there but when ? tries to separate family&#8217;s that&#8217;s time to keep them closer &amp; I&#8217;ve been praying for them &amp; others that they get out and back to the ppl who really Love them.</p>
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