The wreckage from Hurricane Leah is evident everywhere you turn.
Scientology’s PR geniuses are frantically trying to figure out how to respond to the avalanche of exposure.
Their “responses” consist of A. “dead agenting” the source of the problem (see earlier post that defines and describes this: Scientology Dead Agents Itself), B. seeking to destroy the “enemies” who are exposing their abuses (see this article: Dealing with Critics of Scientology: the L. Ron Hubbard Playbook) and C. “Filling the vacuum”. This is described by L. Ron Hubbard in his “scripture” about how to deal with media or other PR “attacks” (black propaganda). In fact, though I have placed this as “Step C” it comes first in his list of “vital actions.” This is what he says:
- Fill the vacuum.
First of all, cease to withdraw. It is proven conclusively that in public relations handling of black propaganda, only outflow pays off. Saying nothing may be noble in a character but it is fatal in public relations. Yet even “experts” advise it (when they are doing their clients in).
Blunt denial is crude and can be used against one as a sort of confirmation. You don’t have to announce or spread a flap and never should. PR men often make the flap. But don’t interpret this as “silence is necessary.” Get in a safe place and speak up. Use any channel to speak up. But don’t seek channels that will corrupt what you say in repeating it.
Don’t stay on the same subject that you are being attacked on.
So, here you can see a perfect example of this. Not staying on the subject they are being attacked on and using a channel that will not corrupt what they say (their own magazine).
The new edition of Celebrity mag has pulled out all the stops using an age-old scientology favorite: Celebrity endorsements.
They have not put this much effort into a Celebrity magazine EVER. I am certain this is because a celebrity is “attacking” them. And they don’t want their celebrities being subjected to uncomfortable questions — so they give them a little blurb in their mag. Of course, the primary audience for this magazine is scientologists and this edition will probably get wider distribution within the scientology bubble than any previous edition ever.
But let’s take a look at the magazine as it is a window into the scientology world.
They put John Travolta on the cover. He is their biggest hitter. Well, erm, except the “most dedicated scientologist I know” and “the biggest star in the world” – Mr. Tom Cruise. So, where is Tom? He has gone strangely quiet about scientology. Of course, with the shitstorm being generated against disconnection and breaking up families, he is not in a good position to talk. 3 failed marriages. Disconnection from Suri. etc etc It would appear that someone advised him that talking about scientology was not good for his career (the same advice that resulted in Miscavige persuading Cruise to fire the brilliant Pat Kingsley as his publicist so many years ago). I guess Tom figured his job was done when he hit the 2 billion disseminated mark. He did one third of the planet alone, time for others to “keep scientology working”?
Ah well. They have to settle for second best. But Tom staying out the fray IS setting a bad example – hardly a reflection of the dedicated glare of a true scientology believer. Though he is following the courageous example of Dear Leader, the bestest and smartest spokesman of all time who maintains his Sphinx-like response. John’s very lame “I don’t need to watch that show to know it’s all lies” is the best they’re going to get as far as an actual response goes.
And then there is Anne Archer. Hardly a household name these days, but Tommy Davis’ mom is a staunch advocate and supporter of scientology and Miscavige, so she is given second billing to JT. But she doesn’t make any statements, mostly because nobody cares what she has to say about anything. This is likely the only magazine she has been in for years…
The “Musicians Page” surprised me — Beck? His parents have always been KoolAid guzzlers but for years he has been very distant and loathe to talk about scientology. I wonder what has changed other than the desperation to get as many people as possible included in this magazine? They brought a lot of pressure somehow…
Nancy Cartwright the cartoon artist? Seriously? I guess it’s hard for her to leave the impression that she knows anything or speaks with any authority when it’s the voice of Bart. As for these other two, never heard of them…
Carole Lombard? Huh? Ran out of people to include pretty fast… Maybe she is one of those people Hubbard claimed was a scientologist at one time.
And how sad to see Stanley Clarke sucked back into the fold, pimping for the IAS.
But what the hell happened to Kirstie Alley? Has she so destroyed her reputation that she is even toxic to scientology?
Jenna Elfman? Also too toxic? Or just “no career”? Hardly a scientology success story.
Laura Prepon? She IS current and a big star. Couldn’t get her to agree to destroy her career with an appearance in the mag and an endorsement of scientology? I can imagine the fear in scientology circles that if she were to do an endorsement there would be a story arc about scientology on OITNB – and it would not be complimentary.
Danny Masterson? A PR liability.
Vonni Ribisi? Who knows.
Erika Christensen? A true scientology fundamentalist. An odd omission. But nobody is really that interested in hearing from her anyway.
And when you think about it, that may well be the end of the list.
What is obvious about the scientology celebrity bubble is that like the rest of scientology, it is shrinking. There are no new additions. No celebrity of note is joining scientology. Probably the last ones to dabble were Will Smith and Jada Pinkett-Smith who were lured through the education of their children. But they have distanced themselves and never got into the bubble.
The sun IS setting on scientology.
PS: Do not forget to watch the SPECIAL ADDITIONAL EPISODE of Scientology and The Aftermath TONIGHT (Monday) at 10pm. With the help of some friends we answer questions viewers have had about the shows that have aired so far. Episode 4 (The Rise of Miscavige) airs tomorrow night at the regular time.
Zenster Zenly says
While it seems there are still a few die-hard LA type celebrities still in Scientology, over here in New York City I can tell you this – I walk my dog to Central Park every day and pass by the NYC Celebrity Center on East 82nd Street and NOT ONCE have I ever seen anyone go in or come out. Only the same sad looking older woman sitting at the Reception desk wondering when will the way to happiness train come and get me?
Seems like no one in New York City is dumb enough to fall for a con for money that promises after years of mind-numbing repetitive useless auditing commands you will be allowed to read a ridiculous comic book about Xenu and the Body Thetans. Oh, and rarely a day goes by that I do not pass a TV or movie shoot, they are making so many shows in New York City these days – and no Scientologists involved ever.
Laurie Schut says
What about Juliet Lewis? She’s an A-lister, but I don’t think she’s done many movies recently. She was a minor player in the flop tv show, Wayward Pines…? I love how they call Leah a “has-been actress”, when she’s got the best show on TV right now (should win awards…like…A LOT OF THEM). Kirstie Alley has only done 10 episodes of the mildly interesting “Scream Queens”, and before that, almost nothing for a long time. Just bit parts, one of which was on…wait for it…THE KING OF QUEENS! And Travolta did the OJ series, which I thought was good, but he hasn’t been in any really good movies/tv since…ummm…wait. It’ll come to me…. So really, WHO’S the “has-been”? And Cruise? His movies are average, at best. Imho, he’s slowly but steadily gone downhill since cheating on Nicole, who btw, after/during the breakup with TC, made a few really good movies!
Basically, as Mike says, they can’t keep leaning on celebs. I believe if all they can come up with are a few relevant celebs, a few irrelevant celebs, as well as a DEAD ONE (Carole Lombard…really?) you have to consider Miscavige is pooping his pants about now. Even Cruise can’t completely recover from the idiotic things he’s done…and the body he’s presently using is getting old, soooo….just sayin’. YOU’RE KICKIN’ IT LEAH AND MIKE!!! Love you and everything you’re doing that TRULY makes this a “better planet”!
Pierre Dominick says
Too many North American are spellbound by celebrities, a celebrity can do drug, alcohol, or be a paedophile and scum of the earth nonetheless if he or she would run for a presidency or leader of any kind he/she would be voted in.
In retaliation you can bet that Scientology will be using Tom, John and other celebrities to fight back because whatever those stars will say, too many American will believe it so you and Leah are in for a though fight but you have social media on your side and you can reach millions of people, what you need is a few celebrities of your own to get your message to millions more….keep those stories coming
Marge Strong says
You and Leah are heroes in the fight to expose scientology. I’ve seen all episodes so far and am appauled at the abuses exposed on the series. I’ve lived in Pinellas County for 45 years and am very aware of the Scientology presence and esp. in Clearwater. It’s common knowledge among those of us who are non-Scientoligists that they are a Cult. Newspaper articles, law suits, unexplained deaths. If they really wanted to increase their numbers, why are the doors locked and guarded from the general public? Most all other churches welcome people to come in, look around, etc. Not Scientology. They remind me of Russia’s KGB the way they snoop around people’s lives, lock people up, abuse people, tell on each other, lie, lie and lie again. Thank you for what you are doing Mike and Leah. I went to the other website and read some deplorable accusations toward you Mike, even from your family members. They are displaying , I believe, what is being demanded of them if they hope to stay in the church–FEAR. So they are lying about you Mike (though perhaps you were abusive as a requirement of position while you were in the church)? Still, I’ve heard you apologize and considering circumstances of your beliefs at the time you were an avid apostle.
I agree w what you felt & saw some of us knew ? was off if a “Church” is doing such great things why not tell the ppl about them but then again just the way there programmed & way they speak they sound nuts & not there fault it’s taught & told to do,I watch over & over this program & I get lil more each time but this one place acts like a whole bunch wrapped into one,they act as nutty as J Edgar Hoover w his wiretaps & watching ppl & telling ppl to live with Military standards which is fine for the ppl in the Military but Jail & hard labor & police w E meter crap & add Chutes & Ladders game & boy I wonder if Dave M dose the E meter or dose he feel he’s perfect & beating ppl up is a crime along w theft,harassment and FEAR isn’t right to use & sure few others & go figure a writer came up with this Imagine that plus how are they helping the planet or crime def a Sci story but they could’ve done ? good by now least help remove that floating trash in the ocean,wonder what they do at Sea but your right & now were getting Facts & Truth..
Brilliant show! I never knew this much about Scientology and cannot wait for the rest of the series. Leah and Mike, you two are educating so many people about this frightening cult. Keep up the great work!
As someone who has never been a scientologist and knows very little about the actual process that a scientologist goes through, I would love to see an episode dedicated to explaining how this “religion” works, and how it is able to twist minds so easily. There is much mental abuse involved, many of your guests talk about that, but speaking for the demographic who watches (and is amazed by) your show but knows little about it, it would be wonderful to better understand exactly what this thing is that ruins so many lives. I think you are so brave for speaking out about this, and I want you to know that this show is beneficial to everyone. Thank you.
Hello Lindsey I had no clue about them either but had a gut feeling ? wasn’t right but after watching this show & there’s a Utube guy who was on the show tells so much it’s close to a brain Info Overload but w him & the show I Get It & the easiest way I can explain it is being in an abusive relationship,it starts off good caring,Loving & then your with them all the time they’d rather you not go see your family,friends & at 1st seems cute they really Luv you so much they just want U to be w them all the time,then lil things come up maybe by mean words or ? not this loving caring person but you’ve done nothing so you think wow this must be Me not them but it cont’s to go on & it can get like U feel like it’s gotta be me even if you’ve done nothing wrong to deserve the mean words or actions & often they blame you for doing things w ? else so after awhile you just don’t bother to go anywhere seeing they’ll find ? you did wrong & prob will even if you go nowhere & fights may start & some w say I’m gonna take the child your unfit & when you stay too long you honestly feel it’s you & your bad and worthless and afraid to tell anyone,will they believe you seeing your so bad & many times you have no money friends are gone & the shame of telling family of abuse Oh I’ve been there done it & even when I told my own mother didn’t believe me,yeah I put these marks on myself but we all have our breaking point & I left w my kid & clothes no money I was done,I went through harassment & more Fear but that held me lil while but I had enough,so to get ppl in there not gonna be jerks,rude but more likely charming,happy while getting your money but when your eye’s see things seem off there’s a good chance it’s there Fault & by then your in & prob scared and good chance good reason but Ron Hubbard was in Navy & if U screw up in Navy sure U get crap duty or Jail so sure plenty walk on eggshells & who can they talk with who won’t turn them in they seem to spend most there time & money with this place I can’t call it a church but I’m sure they give lil crumbs of good that’s how good abusers work & these ppl tend to be charmers but like I said the more I hear & see it sure seems like abuse to me & they have that big ship why have they not help clean that huge floating Trash out there but when ? tries to separate family’s that’s time to keep them closer & I’ve been praying for them & others that they get out and back to the ppl who really Love them.
If I had pick between Tom & John I’d go w John & over the years ppl talked about Gay rumors which in all honesty wouldn’t change my mind about liking him as an actor but I can’t stop thinking about that E meter & what if he was & what if they black mailed him to stay in,I keep getting a feeling there’s more & TC grew up w an abusive father so might explain being in circle of abuse some go from abuse to being around abusers,but he figured his father out but blind to D.M but I know it can happen & U know whatever is wrong/off if your really rich & great catch but U can’t seem to keep a wife esp when he’s that close to knowing the meaning of life or ? he thinks maybe he needs more classes IMO a shrink might be best place nothing wrong with going but you’d think if Ron Hubbard had all the answers they’d help ppl with marriage issues under Vol 89899 jk there but I agree w there Lack of finding ? to come speak up rather than a typed paper deny everything guess ? needs hit that E Meter or better yet Bring both sides to the table & have ? outside read who’s being truthful & who’s Lying esp while they claim Leah & rest all liars well Bring it put your cards out & lets see or there Cowards just like a Bully when you face them head on,well keep it up all of you & try not to blame yourselves U did what you thought was right at the time but now U have truth….
Thank you Mike and Leah for this show. We watch it with passion and wish there was a way we could help. Although it is painful for you all to share your story I do believe it is helping to break the Scientology mold. It breaks my heart to know what you all had to go thru and to be disconnected from your families. Blessings to you all during this holiday season and throughout the year. I look forward to your next episode and will keep sharing this on social media sites.
Carole Lombard died in a plane crash in 1941. Can’t make out that small print. Would love to read how the cult has positioned her as a Celebrity Guest.
LEONARD STEPH says
i LOVE THE SHOW AND HAVE BECOME OBSESSED WITH RESEARCHING SCIENTOLOGY. wHEN TOM AND kATIE DIVORCED i STARTED RESEARCHING AND WAS FLOORED AT THE ARTICLES I SAW. i CAN’T IMAGINE ONLY MAKING 50.00 A WEEK. WHEN PEOPLE IN SCIENTOLOGY LEAVE THAT DO NOT HAVE CAREERS HOW DO THEY SURVIVE? iS THERE A GROUP THAT HELPS THEM? IF THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY SKILLS HOW DO THEY GET A JOB ECT? THANK YOU FOR EXPOSING THIS GROUP AS A GENUINE CULT AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL STOP DRINKING THE KOOL AID.
I am literally blown away by the documentary. I mean it’s really mind boggling to me. I have always wondered what Scientology is really all about and I knew nothing other than the debacle Tom Cruise got himself in with Brook Shields on the today show. I always knew it was labeled a cult – and I wondered what the allure was to celebrities. But I did not realize how full blown of a cult it really is. I mean all the stories on the documentary are just insane and mind boggling – and heartbreaking. Even though you’ve explained it very well – it’s hard to understand just how brainwashed these people are who would would turn their back on their loved ones. I hope you can help these people get out! Keep fighting and get your kids back. Sending prayers. Here’s my question… There is all this talk on the documentary that Scientologists think they are bettering the planet. I would like to know HOW Scientologists could possibly think they are bettering the planet or doing anything good. I googled – how Scientology is bettering the world – just to see if I was missing anything… and nope not even one good deed comes up. And just like David M’s dad said – it was all negative things – in my search too! I mean do Scientologists just pay crazy amounts of money – and the cult takes the money to do these “good things” – and then just makes false claims about what they are actually doing? Is the Scientologists role simply to pay money and climb the ladder – and the church takes care of supposedly making the world better? Or does each Scientologist individually and actively take a role in doing things to make the world better?
Happier Now says
The reason Scientologists think they are bettering the planet is that they are told about all these good things being done, then asked for donations to help, and flattered big time for donating. Then there are multiple “events” every year, held at headquarters and “broadcast” to all the Orgs. Videos are shown documenting accomplishments by Narcanon, and Volunteer Ministers, and IAS etc. there is a LOT of hype in the videos and speeches, all sorts of amazing statistics about how Scientology is “Clearing the planet” (meaning “we are WINNING”… and then people are hit up for donations to these Scientology organizations. Plus once they have your address they send out lots of promotional mail and several magazines every quarter or so, with more hype. The goals most have when getting in is to become a better person and to help mankind, so why wouldn’t you believe that you are doing a good thing, right? After all, you’ve seen the “proof”! If you check out the scientology website, you can get a taste of it. Just don’t EVER give them your address or contact info!
if ppl are Not allowed to ask questions & have limited outside facts lil wonder they buy into this which seems more like propaganda & all the recording,spying along w other stuff sounds like J Edgar Hoover & Feds and we have heard about him dressing in woman’s clothes not a huge deal but to spy & tape others just is a sick person who dose that…
I’m not a violent person but I wouldn’t mind ? giving DM a good smack around or lil more to knock him off his high horse long as horse is reg size,I’m sorry but this guy bugs me & try not to judge anyone but ppl who abuse others need to STOP & I’m kinda surprised ? hasn’t already.My 2 cents.. Merry Xmas
Christine Buras says
I got this magazine in the mail yesterday, and I have no association with Scientology whatsoever. The only time I even typed Scientology into Google was to look up something on Wikipedia to direct my mother to because she had questions and all I know is what I’ve seen on the show. Then, boom, a week later John Travolta is in my mailbox with a nice message from Hubbard on the first page.
Do they usually send these magazines out to random non-Scientologists?
Christine Buras says
Nice is meant in a “your face in my mailbox is weirding me out” sort of way.
Mike Rinder says
Christine — would you mail me your copy if I email you my address?
Christine Buras says
I don’t know if this is going through, I tried to respond three times and each time the website times out. Anyway, yes, I will be more than happy to send this to you. Should I just email you my email address?
Mike Rinder says
Just sent you an email
Since the show started airing, Sacramento Regional Transit has placed Dianetics posters in their bus stop shelters. Scientology must be hunkering down to bring in sheeple and RT must be hurting for additional revenue to risk associating themselves with Scientology. As for what Leah, you and everyone else on the show is exposing, you will be the collective straws to break that camel’s back. I also applaud A&E for having the balls to air the show and reach millions of homes.
Debbie Houle-Dominguez says
Morning……. Dear Mike & Leah… I know your have had an overwhelming response to the documentary & the emotional work you both have been doing. I just pray for you both daily, for your families, your safety, & your strength to go on with this wonderful series! I also pray for those people who are still in this sick brainwashed state & their families. I am from Peabody, Mass and watch the series weekly, it has touched me to this point of commenting on your blog. I am 51 yrs old and have never been compelled to come to the internet and comment on anything in my life lol. Keep your spirits & chins up. God will continue to bless you both. Take Care & Merry Christmas, & Happy Hanukkah !
Hello Mike,I’ve wanted to know for some time about this group yet little was ever said Over our heads I heard even but the more I heard your story w others I cried & then it hit me this was like a bad relationship it made sense to how ppl get in & stuck been there done that and while looking it up a Church I grew up in was also in the Cult area & for me I felt prob more Fear than what God is & that’s Not fear but all Love just like how we love our kids God also Loves us even when we screw up we all do & what I faced growing up w my church Fear scared the crap outta me so much so even when I left I followed me,if God came rt now was I good enough to be w him or be left behind & my life I’ve felt no matter what it’s not enough & I’m not one who goes being mean ppl or ? else but my self esteem is low 30+ years latter,I wasn’t dis-fellowshiped because I never was baptized & the Bible say’s if U tell God ? you’ve done & ask for forgiveness he casts it aside & throws it so far & it’s done so for any church to ban someone Isn’t following Gods words were his children just like we forgive so dose God.I’ve not gone back but I still pray & found a preacher I do follow,I never stopped loving God but the fear & phobia’s I have are fresh wounds,scary Pic’s of ppl who don’t follow the rules w never live & think as child did ? to my mind yet the preacher I listen to gives me hope so with that & abuse I suffered not w the church but ppl outside is so darn close to what U ppl go through I’ve even left a bad relationship w nothing but few things & my kid no money & started over wasn’t easy but we did it so despite it all I get what your going through mine might not be all the same but I get it & see how it works for you it makes me sad the extent of locking ppl up for wanting to leave how can that be Legal in any sense,your Not in the NAVY & done No Crime yet it’s Legal to Imprison ppl & would not shock me if even went worse was done to certain ppl,so many things come to mind like Hitler & few others,this group could’ve done much good w all that money,crime pretty much the same as ever,planet prob lil worse but I’ve yet hear hey that “Church” did XYZ but Never did.I’m sorry mike you & others were in that Trap & abused by D.M but I do like how some are letting you know like birdhouse & other things so I’d have guess came from inside & when I pray I ask that ppl wake up & get out of there & you ppl get your children back & there needs be a Law regarding taking minors out of State,Town unless of legal age and why can’t the kids stay w parents at this place kids are Pure & trust when adults tell them things & for me is an easy target for abuse so I say U wanna join places hold your kids closer but I’m hoping this False Church goes down & tax exempt BS,make them pay for what RLH never paid.TYTYTY for showing us what many like myself had feeling wasn’t right but ppl really never said much & after the Utube guy from your show explaining hurt my head was so confusing but it added up to what I thought was going on so I’ll keep praying & hope any guilt U may carry let it go U were scammed it’s Not your fault.
I wish U happy holiday’s Keep up the Great work..
Very brave and wish you guys the best of all. Leah is a very brave lady for stepping out and trying to get the truth out.
Wish all the other actors would do the same thing but I guess they are brainwashed as well.
Love you guys.
Mikayla Maskell says
I was so moved by this series and yours and Leah’s dedication to it. Anyone could see the emotional toll. I myself choked my way through it. The human rights violations are clear. I am shocked that this is going on in the name of ‘religion’ in this country. I have emailed my congressmen, Peter Welch and Bernie Sanders and asked them to intervene. Please be well and enjoy the life you so richly deserve. I know as long as you have children on the inside that you will not be completely happy, but don’t let Scientology rob the wonderful children you have now of a your loving parenting. It is clear that you are a kind, compassionate strong leader and you are a father any child should be proud to call his own.
Thank you for creating this series! My daughter has autism and I have followed this cult for many years, but more since JT admitted his son, God rest his soul, had autism and epilepsy. I understand this cult doesn’t allow pharmacueticals for what is considered a mental disorder, so, it is my belief that he and his wife were culpable in their own son’s death. Maybe they are just so brainwashed that they believed that psychiatry and medication would have caused more damage than good.
My question, does anyone have audio recording of David Miscavige’s verbal and physical assaults? I wonder why we have never heard one.
Keep doing what you are doing!
Danna Angevine says
Throughout recorded history and I am sure further back all dictators have risen only to fall. So it will be with David Miscavige. If Scientology as it exists today had anything real and true, they wouldn’t be so viciously defensive. To keep their own terrors at bay, they try to terrorize others. Those who allow no questioning or disagreement are deeply fearful. And, now, with the exposure they re receiving from you, Leah, and others that will ultimately tear this bogus religion to pieces. Can’t come soon enough. I applaud your fortitude and courage.
danielle johnson says
I don’t know why someone inside doesn’t just take out david miscavige. He seems to be so destructive and abusive it clearly has to be a red flag to those around him day to day.
Mike Rinder says
I edited your comment, you don’t want scientology claiming you made some sort of threat against them. It has happened before.
The answer to your question is that they are brainwashed/tricked into believing he is actually bringing about the aims of scientology. Some of this is going to be covered in an upcoming show.
Laura Prepon was ridiculed in the Daily Mail for her ‘Celebrity’ mag appearance on 7 July 2015. This is probably why the Cos shied away from using her this time around. Plus, she’s newly engaged to Ben Foster, who ended his engagement with Robin Wright last year. Ben Foster is long friends with the Masterson crew, and they are probably working hard on him to woo him into the church. It’s best to leave Laura and Ben alone for now, and keep it quiet. That’s how the machinations of the CoS works IMO.
Hi Mike – what you and Leah are doing is such a great way to expose Scientology for what it is … a cult. And by doing so, you are lifting the curtain and revealing the man behind it. But it’s more than that, it’s a dangerous cult. Much like Jim Jones, there will be people that will follow their leader to their death.
I do want to caution you though, in the language you use to describe current members, and in this posting, celebrity members. Example, your description of Nancy Cartwright:
“Nancy Cartwright the cartoon artist? Seriously? I guess it’s hard for her to leave the impression that she knows anything or speaks with any authority when it’s the voice of Bart.”
Maybe it’s your years of training in the cult that you find vitriol ways to attack, but it’s not serving you well to make your point. You are not being any better in your approach then when you were on missions to destroy people who spoke out against Scientology. The same tactics don’t speak of passion, only shows a very sophomoric side that should have been left behind with your cult.
There are far better ways to get your point across than to take personal jabs at someone who is following what THEY believe is true. As ludicrous as it sounds to us, it is everyone’s right to practice as they see fit. So instead of attacking a person on a personal level (in reading the above quote, you may as well have said “she’s stupid and her mother dresses her funny” because that’s how low-brow it came across) and address what the issue is. Attack the issue and not the person, and if you attack the person, at least play in a field where it’s intelligent and not kicking rocks on the playground.
I have had my own … experience with this cult. A story too long to tell here, but I am so so so very thankful for what you and Leah are doing. I pray that eyes are opened, ears will begin to hear and hearts can be healed.
Keep doing what you’re doing, Mike … just find the higher ground as you go!
Mike Rinder says
Thanks for the advice. Well taken.
Why do you think they are not focusing on her as the voice of Bart Simpson? That IS the only thing she is known for?
Hey … why or why not the powers that be at Scientology do or don’t do anything, is beyond my reasoning. Thankfully.
But if Ms. Cartwright were to leave that cult today, I would want to hear her story. Wouldn’t you? I would hope that people would embrace her that have walked in the path she was about to embark on. I would find her story no less valuable as the voice actor of Bart Simpson. What she does to pay her bills isn’t really germane to what she’s able to accomplish or speak to in her life.
And … I’m pretty sure, if she were to leave Scientology, THEY would definitely find some way to disparage her merely “as the voice of Bart Simpson” and demeaning her value as less than, because of it.
So leave that ugliness to them … where it belongs. Because what you and Leah are doing Mike, is history in the making! Let it speak volumes of who you are today, not from where you came.
Exciting things ahead. Happy holidays and cheers to the New Year! 🙂
I am OBSESSED with your show, we are watching each episode 2x. Unbelievable amount of respect to you and Leah for bringing this to TV and the forefront of the nation.
I am so sorry for everything you have personally gone through to get where you are today, sounds like hell 🙁
Tricia H says
I have been watching the shows & I am enraged! I cannot imagine what these people have gone through & are continuing to go through. There are no words…disgusting doesn’t even cover it. Several years ago I had heard about a Lisa McPherson that they let die & it sickened me. I could not & still cannot believe the death pictures of that once beautiful woman. The more I researched the more I saw that there are several people they have let die or have killed. There’s actually a whole website dedicated to these victims of this so called religion. When Mr. Travolta’s son died, I have often wondered if he was just an innocent casualty of this absurdity. As a Christian, I whole heartedly believe the nut case known as Hubbard is burning in a lake of fire & one day, his predecessor will join him. It saddens me to think of how many people will succumb to this idiocy & ridiculousness.
You and Leah are amazing, I am sure they have made life difficult. I feel bad to say this but I cannot stand Mr. Travolta, to let his son die when medications could of helped him burns me up. I am the parent of an epileptic child who prayed many times for a medication to help her, after years we found one that worked, sadly she did have a stroke from her seizures and suffers memory loss due to it, but to have a child ill like this and withhold treatment to me is unforgivable. I do not allow any of his movies, or anything to do with h in my home. As for Mr. Cruise the world has thought he was a joke for many years, so maybe it is a good thing he has kept his mouth shut. I am so happy you and many others got out, I only pray that the government gets off their behinds and does what is right and investigates this cult. My hope is that we all do our part and help you all out and make the governments look at this cult and shut its doors for good, also those in leading roles while i doubt it will happen should be imprisoned for life and placed in solitary for life.
Denise RR says
I am convinced Kelly Preston floated that carpet cleaning/glues caused her sons autism to protect the fact he was medically neglected. I have no respect for them. As an advocated for the autistic community they do nothing for the cause NOTHING.
Yes it’s been working Mike. Finally. Now how to return the assets to their rightful owners?
Lois Reisdorf (Lowie) says
Mike the show was AMAZING & AWESOME. What you and Leah are doing is just fantastic! THANK YOU!
Mike Rinder says
Thanks Lowie. Feeling the love.
Mike, Your hammer is breaking that anvil.
My Inner Space says
Was Tommy Davis fired from his big role? Is he scrubbing toilets somewhere to atone for his sins? He used to be front and centre and now nothing.
Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter says
Tommy is now apparently a public. There’s information on him here, and at The Underground Bunker.
Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter says
One thing about the show, that Mike Rinder is one handsome guy.
I am a domestic abuse survivor and your story and Leah’s story is very similar to the walk of a DV victim. I have been watching and reading about what has been happening with great interest and admiration for both of you and your wife. What you are doing take so much courage. When I decided to “come out” as a DV survivor using my real name, it was very hard. A lot of people wanted to discredit me (my abuser for one) and I heard the same type of stuff. But, the truth is the truth and it wins out most of the time.
I know that you are both doing enormous good. In fact, you are doing much more for the planet now that you are out of Scientology … ironic. Good is coming from your years in that cult. Without your prospective, fewer were listen when you spoke.
You have a tough walk, but so much purpose.
Mike is the title of Episode 4 a typo? I thought it was The Reich of Miscavige.
4 swing FN says
To everyone here.
May the beauty of nature fill your heart with peace and joy throughout the next year.
Speaking of four swings, I know several people who would like to take at least that many at Dave.
We , in LRHs Bulgravia are sending big hello and wondering where is Catherine Bell ? JAG is popular here , they look like SO .
Crawling out of lurkdom.
Is Elisabeth Moss a dedicated scientologist, or ‘in name only,’ so that her family won’t disconnect from her? She’s an amazing actress and I really hope she doesn’t waste 2.5 hours a day on this cult, like Leah tells us scientologists do as a minimum.
Is it even really possible to be an, ‘in name only,’ scientologist?
I’m a never in- obviously, but have been following the cult for at least three years, i think.
Love this site, very informative. And love the show!
Why don’t you just go ALL IN and put yourself on the cover of the next issue of Celebrity? And do a simultaneous interview for Rolling Stone?
please do so!!!
I personally consider t.c. an a- actor now. I think others in the industry do too. Too many flops. Only the mission impossible films do good at the box office now. In hollywood ‘you’re only as good as your last film.’ He is being smart in staying low key on the cherch now. He needs to be and i’m sure his ‘team’ of non-scns. insist on that now. And just for chuckles- Nicole K. Will be in an up-coming tv series with Elisabeth Moss. Wonder what they’ll be talking about.
Look what happens when your back is turned! I’ve been away for a month or so and missed most scientology news. Wow what a difference that month’s earthquakes have made. Belatedly looking at the first two Remini shows over the weekend what a brilliant tour de force is being released by Leah and Mike and many other brave souls. A fantastic job by real humanitarians — not the poor scared and scarred folk who have coughed up crook-extorted money and precious time in exchange for eternity “attaboys” and a collection of empty monuments.
Now the shortest day of the northern year is basically tomorrow and the light will start to return, Last night was clear and crisp. The stars were bright, including a few shooters. and I think they are finally aligned. Look out Target 2. A few short years ago I remember Marty Rathbun saying that the following one would be a tough one for COS. It was but Dave and his dwindling gangsters have proved as hard to get rid of as a rat infestation. It looks like 2017 may open the crater that finally swallows this scourge.
I do look forward to seeing Dave’s year end spin on 2016 as the best year ever for the cult. They had better start hiring all the extras in LA now if they plan on filling more than the lobby at the Shrine Auditorium.
My deepest appreciation goes out to the hard work of all of you. You must be exhausted I hope you are well rewarded by reunification of your lost friends and familes
Well apparently the church can no longer include the Remini family among it’s list of celebrities, and I know Leah’s mother since her mother was on the Hubbard Standard Dianetics Course in New York in the 70’s. 🙂
Thank you Mike for your blog and for really caring about people.
May good Karma or good whatever goes your way.
Mike Rinder says
Thanks Dodo. And thank you for also caring. What you are doing to help that woman is wonderful.
Chee Chalker says
Where is MRS John Travolta, Kelly Preston?
My understanding is that she drinks the most Kool-Aid in that house
Kathy H. says
I saw her interviewed many years ago, and she came off like a completely programmed Scientology robot, pushing the agenda as hard as she could. Creepy, almost like a Stepford wife.
Worse, she’s a Dave Dame.
They also lost Jason Lee this year.
Nancy Cartwright’s clay baby still haunts my nightmares!
I’d LOVE to watch it But I don’t think there is a way for me to do so here in the UK
Mike Rinder says
I suggest you google how to watch geoblocked shows in the US
I am able to watch each show live from the UK by doing what Mike suggests, Less 🙂
Xenus Brother In Law says
I’m resident in the UK and have been able to watch all the episodes. Here’s how:
I simply do a google search on “Scientology – The Aftermath, Episode X”. Select videos.Then I select “advanced search” from the options menu and put the words “YouTube” into the EXCLUDED search field.
This will now give you a selection of sites, with the exception of YouTube, that could very well be showing the episode you want to watch.
YouTube has a tendency to disallow videos that are being hotly contested by scientology..Search without YouTube being featured and you’re likely to find what you want.
The Russian site, RuTube, is a good contender……
I Yawnalot says
“The only reason you get attacked is bad results or no results.” Gee… wonder where I read that?
So… what sort of results does a Scientology celebrity get exactly? That in itself is worthy of a program, the difference between celebrity Scientology and rank and file Scientology. The power of “being found out you fucked up,” is just too much to bear I suppose. What did Hubbard himself say? “If you’re silly enough to become famous,” or some such sagely ridiculous comment about popularity.
The long, long, incredibility long list of provable and continuing abuses created within and by Scientology isn’t real so it seems and it is pretty obvious Scientology attracts far more suppressive persons than social ones apparently because of the overwhelming amount of people it has had to declare and ex-communicate from. Scientology’s organisational insanity is quite real and all so very profitable (for now).
If JT et al only realized the simple operating logic that Scientology will find them suppressive. It’s only a matter of time, probably sooner rather than later. But for now, with all the exposure of Scientology abuses, it speaks volumes of the stupidity of admitting endorsement of a cult. That alone will earn them a ‘declare’ by society itself.
Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.
Old Surfer Dude says
My dear Frank, I don’t give a damn either
I Yawnalot says
So many damns, so little water, glad you don’t want any. More for meeeeee…
Even though Scientologists must have read KSW dozens of times, they just can’t seem to apply that line. The stats for bad PR for Scientology have been going up dramatically for two decades (thanks to the Internet) but if that datum about ‘no results’ were true, then it would be date coincident with GAT 1 and GAT 2 (thanks Miscavige).
A member should be thinking, “Hmm. Lots of attacks. I wonder why there are bad results in the tech. I wonder what changed?”.
As far as JT’s comment that he doesn’t need to see Leah’s show, it proves that prolonged membership leads to less confront, less communication and less responsibility.
If someone were to apply the theoretical Scientology concepts of responsibility, he would notice that membership is on a sharp decline and wonder why.
He would look at what people are saying and judge accordingly. By refusing to look, JT is, in effect, suppressing his own group since you can’t fix what you don’t know.
Exactly. Results. People make a big fuss over KSW – I read it once, thought “Well, duuuh!”, got my five-star checkout etc. and never read it again. The thing I didn’t notice is that there must have already been widespread misunderstanding and misapplication of tech, for the guy to get so PO’ed. My “duh”.
I’m too lazy to make the full connections of implications and unravel the bad kitty’s knots of string here, but “WE” read the Co$ stuff and watch whatever vids are spirited past the bars and gates of the Co$ “black tie admission by rank only” events. How come they are unable to watch ours? I mean, WE know we’re going to get a bunch of lies, but read them anyway (maybe some faint glimmer of hope for some truth sticking its pretty head up?). So hows-a-come theys can’ts reads ourses? Because it’s a waste of time?
Because they have certainty and to disturb it is enturbulating.
Old Surfer Dude says
…to disturb it drives them stark raving mad…
I’m certain you’re right. ?
… I thought they were mad … gad, I always get left behind in the dust!
Nickname, you’re glib. You don’t understand the history of Scientology. I do.
I don’t know if you’re trying to insult me or trying to be funny.
No insults, it’s just my irreverent wit. Hope you weren’t offended.
Also, get your manners in.
Again, I don’t know if you’re trying to insult me, or trying to be funny.
It’s a parody of Tom Cruise. Nothing personal, believe me.
Thank you for the clarification. Didn’t mean to not appreciate your (dry) humor! I really didn’t know if you were being facetious (parodying). Blogs and all. If we all weren’t flying blind, no faces to see, no voice to hear, and the protocols in evolution, it would be easier. No criticism of yourself intended here. Reading you now, I can say you sure got the parody down!
Thanks Nickname. After years in the church, I’m finally able to speak my mind. Now, that’s freedom!
I keep wondering why the esteemed billionaire, Bob Duggan (and family), have disappeared from public view and why they’re not being quoted and used by Miscavige. Perhaps they’ve also decided to keep out of the Remini spotlight?
Harpoona Frittata says
Another excellent deconstruction of the cult’s counter-offensive strategy in the wake of Hurricane Leah 1,2 and 3 making landfall and completely overwhelming their resources! Nothing like having the “must be obeyed” $cn playbook in hand in order to cite the chapter and verse that they’re currently operating on! It makes the cult and its fascist leader’s next moves incredibly predictable as well!
But if you’re the cult and trying your hardest to “fill the vacuum” with $cn Good News, then the question, “So, where is Tom?” is a really good one, because Tom Tom is really the only true A-list movie star that the cult has, and hey, last time I checked he was still the cherch’s World Ambassador. And as Mike notes, “He has gone strangely quiet about scientology.”
In a Celebrity mag issue dedicated to highlighting every single noteworthy celeb $cilon that exists, to not even mention Tom Tom at all – not even in passing to update us on his next film’s release – is a glaring out point that may very well be indicative of his continuing process of slowly distancing himself from the cult, at least in public. When was the last time that TC showed up at any of the glittering gala whale milking events? When was he last awarded a Turl-sized bowling trophy? Why has the “third biggest being” been so completely AWOL from his duty duties as the cult’s world good will ambassador? These questions and so many more like them that could be asked are nowhere being addressed by Tom or the cult.
Tom is as arrogantly narcissistic and self-aggrandizing as lil davey himself, so there’s no possible way that they’d slight him by making the unilateral decision to leave him out of that Celebrity mag issue, for fear of him taking offense. And even the suggestion that including TC’s profile might be unwise, due to his very out 2D history, would be offensive to him. So, it’s much more likely that he made the decision to NOT have anything mentioned about him in that issue at all, which strongly suggests that when viewed in the context of his other notable absences, TC is at least going underground to escape the fury and destruction of Hurricane Leah.
And if he isn’t actually the complete fool and easy mark that he seems, then he’d also be distancing himself from his former BFF, lil davey the home wrecker, who has lied to, manipulated and completely betrayed him so completely that only a complete idiot would continue to remain blind to it. Until OaTy 9&10 are released, the cult needs Tom much more than Tom needs the cult. Perhaps he’s finally wising up to that fact and still feeling the sharp pain of having been so thoroughly shafted (no lube style) by his former BFF, lil davey the real Super SP I/C on $cn and TC’s lines!
Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter says
Believe there are pictures of Tom at the IAS event wearing his medal this fall. Either Mike has them, or Tony Ortega does.
Kathy H. says
Tom is an aging action star, the clock is ticking and it’s doubtful that he can have his pick of projects much longer. How many Mission Impossible sequels can he do? He’s even mentioned the possibility of a Top Gun sequel (too long in the tooth for that one!) Seems likely that maintaining his career for as long as possible now has priority over his once vocal public support for the cherch.
The jokes and solid backlash against Tom Cruise in his couch jumping days proved that $cientology is despised by the vox populi. Note how many cleb clams no longer speak of it in public.
The most bestest $cientologist, Tom Cruise, has had one line about $cientology in the past 3 years. ‘It’s a beautiful religion’ does not count for much. One line in 3 years, not the behavior of the ‘hardest working $cientologist’ is it?
John Travolta hasn’t even trotted out the ‘they helped me when my son died’ line in the past 2 years. So who is going to carry the Clam Flag in the National Brotherhood Day parade? Not by anyone who wants to cast for any job, any where. $cientology is about as welcome at the feast as your pedophile cousin.
Mike, my respect for you and Leah is immeasurable. Although I’ve never been in, I lost my best friend to the JW’s and he passed away before he ever “saw the light” or for us to establish a new friendship through the shunning. I’ve learned so much about cults in general, you and Leah are just the best and are leading the most effective knowledge campaign ever! Just make sure you get your kids back and hug your current family members every day … peace will be your reward.
Mike Rinder says
Thanks so much. It is always especially heartening to hear that the show resonates with those who have had similar experiences in other cults (and there are SO many similarities with the JW’s – if you get a chance read Lloyd Evans excellent forthcoming book The Reluctant Apostate)
Rebecca Riegel says
You and Leah are amazing. Don’t stop. I can’t tell you how much respect I have for you both. I’m so sorry you’ve been disconnected from your family. I pray they see the light.
I’m a former JW and yes, its incredible how these cults all use the same play book. The belief systems are different but the tactics are the same.
Mike Maddux says
Great post, Mike!
Bubble Dweller says
Thanks to Mike, Leah and all of you for exposing the human rights abuses and crimes committed by the “Church” of Scientology.
Leah has been on Larry King Now recently:
Very well done Leah.
For those who cannot connect to the A&E documentary, you can watch the videos on russian government Rutube.ru Just search for Leah Remini.
You might also be able to watch it via a US anonymity service, or via JonDo/JonDoFox premium services.
You probably need a US ip address to watch it.
Access via sling.com is banned in some or maybe all EU countries.
I have asked the public service TV channel in the country where I live to contact aetv.com and broadcast Leahs A&E documentary. They have been broadcasting Going Clear and other documentaries regarding human rights abuses and crimes committed by the “Church” of Scientology in the past.
As I see it, exposing the human rights abuses and crimes committed by the “Church” of Scientology is not only a service to ex-scientologists who have had their families broken and their lives destroyed by these atrocities, it is also a service to the community, to help members of the community to avoid experiencing these atrocities, and actually to scientologists, an attempt to recover these people and start the proces for these people of becoming social again, and it is a service to those people who are no longer amongst us who were destroyed and maybe even killed by the “Church” of Scientology.
May truth and freedom prevail –
Another kudos to Leah Remini… For some reason the ignorant, lazy media cannot drop the stale idea that Scientology has a large celebrity membership. On at least one occasion during her current publicity rounds, Leah has been asked about that. She smacked it down pretty clearly, saying that no, there are not a lot of celebrities in Scientology.
Tommy Prophet says
The celebrity endorsement thing is backfiring on them. Every time Tom C’s name comes up in the news, there are a bunch of comments about Scientology’s destructive practices, And he supports it. He is coming across as a cult goon, and scientology gets another blizzard of bad press.
Likely, Celebrities have taken note of this and don’t want to draw fire. So, no new additions.
Although, it might take awhile for the current bunch to die off.
One of the tabloids said that Nichole Kidman is writing a memoir that will make Leah’s comments about Tom Cruise look like a children’s book. Nichole will spill it all.
Mike Rinder says
That is as likely to happen as the Martians impregnating the Duchess of Cambridge that they reported above the fold.
Wait…the Martians did what??
It was Venusians. They’re good at disguises.
While you’re at it, don’t forget the Marcabians.
Old Surfer Dude says
Holy shit! My cover’s blown!
I always suspected as much hiding under the cover of an old surfer dude. Puhleease!
I Yawnalot says
Let’s build a wall hey?
I always knew that Duchess was a tart!
I am guessing that Nicole has to walk a fine line to have any contact whatsoever with her children. Celebs seem to be given a break from the disconnection policy when it is a public relations nightmare, so Tom will see Suri sometimes and the two older children will see Nicole once in a while. But if Nicole spills more secrets then she will lose what limited relationship she has with them. Very sad.
My kids were friends with Isabel and Conner and even went to a party at their house and other things with them. According to my kids (and this was told to me about 3 or 4 years ago), they said their mom, Nichole is an SP and they don’t talk to her.
If Nicole is suppressive, so was Gandhi.
Mat Pesch says
Travolta demonstrates cult thought stopping with his statement “I don’t need to watch that show to know its all lies.” A cult is all about information control and programming individuals to only look, listen and respond to direction of the cult itself. He was given a pat on the head and a dog biscuit in the form of the Freedom Magazine ego stroke job.
Bring back Vinnie Barbarino.
John Travolta never mentally aged past Vinnie Barbarino, who was what, 16?
Old Surfer Dude says
Who thinks Scientology is beautiful…..
I Yawnalot says
Harpoona Frittata says
Perhaps he held out for more this time and demanded that his “blackmail folder,” – replete with pics of him with some of his past fave rent boys and accompanied by auditing sessions tapes of him confessing to the blow-by-blow details of his liaisons with them – was finally returned to him, along with a signed NDA from the cult agreeing to pay big money if any of this material was to ever leak out to the media. One can only hope that JT has finally wised up to how owned by the cult he’s been and taken steps to protect himself from having his most private and supposedly confidential confessional records from being used in any other further extortion schemes.
Scientology is toxic to ALL creative careers. First and foremost because it limits your ability to feel and act as a human being. It reflects in the power of the artists painting, songs, musical compositions, acting, books, plays, directing, choreography, photography and live performance, to relate to other human beings. Hubbards tone scale and book Science of Survival contain statements that destroy an artists ability to relate as a human being. The dichotomy is that Hubbard also makes some true statements in book that are useful to artists . However they are ignored by Scientology and Scientologists for the most part.
The fact that admitting that you are a scientologist publicly is toxic to their careers, is a fact.
What I have observed is that the WORK of Scientology artists is rarely brilliant even though they very talented.
Chick Corea is not doing anything new. Neither is Stanley Clark. Travolta and Cruise are the same. Nothing brilliant. Same old Same old. Beck same. They all peaked years ago.
On the other hand look at Jeffrey Tambor and Jason Begé. They are out the roof.
And now Leah. Taking a new turn as a documentarian. Brilliant.
The mantra needs to be:
“Scientology Kills Creativity”
At lower levels it can give a burst of freedom and energy. Good traditional therapy or self help books can do that. However if an artist stays in the cult, they are doomed to a life of mediocrity for as long as they continue up the bridge to total serfdom.
L. Ron Hubbard had an cognition
“Get me celebrities!”
But most of the big stars
Stay right where they are
See through the con and the greed
Bruce Ploetz says
Jason Larocca – he is shot sitting in a studio that looks a lot like the Mad Hatter (Chick Corea’s old studio that is now a Sea Org installation). It is extremely unlikely that any Hollywood film scores are being mixed in there. More likely they just dragged him in for a shot.
Mark Isham does get mentioned in Jason’s copy. Just not featured. Maybe there is another issue in the works with even lesser-known names. Like Michael Roberts, and David and Jeff Pomerantz. David is big in the Philippines you know.
Wonder if JT is thrilled to be back in the limelight. Takes first billing over TC in quite some time.
DM probably promised JT a new super status for his undying devotion and willingness to put his best face forward.
Travolta’s willingness to close his eyes and refuse to look is a valuable trait in the Co$ these days.
It’s a beautiful religion with a glamorous leader.
I Yawnalot says
See what trusting a lawyer to do your thinking can result in. Politically correct has a new sub category called ‘celebrity correct’. Oh the chosen few… I prefer authenticity (no matter the cost) at the end of the day. Tinsel Town, strange place to call home.
Hollywood in the immortal words of Johnny Mercer:
Where any shop girl can be a top girl
If she pleases Mister Businessman
Gus Cox says
I’ll bet Travolta is thrilled – I got my grubby hands on that copy of Celebrity and not only is he on the cover, there’s a 13 page retrospective on his career! Starting with Kotter and all the way through to “People vs. OJ.” With lots of pics and quotes about how wonderful Scientology is. It’s too bad – Travolta is such a damned nice dude. I hate seeing him so delusional.
And by the way, our favorite “Leica Photographer” Thorsten “von” Overgaard is on one of the back pages, lugging a suitcase-sized replica of a Leica M. Meanwhile his wife/girlfriend (I don’t know which) “Princess” Joy Villa is featured in a 2 page spread about the “on-site theatre,” entitled “Catch A Rising Star.” That’s the place we used to call the little theatre down in the basement.
I also see that Stanley Clarke’s wife Sofia has her clear bracelet on. I wonder if that’s how he got back in? He was out for a long time, but I don’t know when he got married.
At 57 pages, this is the thickest Celebrity Mag I’ve seen in a long time. I think Miscavige is saying to His flock, “Over here! Look! We have Celebrities!” in an effort to distract them from Hurricane Leah.
As for Cruise: Maybe He is saving ol’ Tom for next issue. I await breathlessly.
Good example of sun setting is Celebrity Centre Nashville where after seven years of work has still not been able to get Brad Paisley or Blake Shelton in to do services. Dolly Parton? Loretta Lynn? Forget it.
I believe Hank Williams is on lines. ?
Hank Williams? A Scientologist? Weird.
I heard LRH is auditing him on Target 2.
Hank Williams: Potential Valuable Final Product.
Look for Hank’s new single, ‘I Can’t Help It If I’m PTS To You’.
Old Surfer Dude says
They might as well close the place.
It’s now operating as the Bates Motel.
I Yawnalot says
Comes with a free knife sharpening service I believe.
Dave is the new Norman.
Yes, I’ve slept there a few times. Brrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Mary Jane Sterne says
Or what about Juliette Lewis?
I know Juliette, and supervised both her and Brad Pitt on a communications course. He had the good sense to get out after his first exposure. Here’s hoping she eventually wakes up too.
I work with Beck’s brother at Amoeba and he does not associate with any scientologists. He told me once that scientology has ruined his family.
Harpoona Frittata says
Perhaps he’d like to take this very opportune moment to tell his family’s story of involvement with the cult? Sure wouldn’t hurt to give him Tony Ortega’s email address and make that suggestion.
Question: any possibility Carole Lombard is related to Paulien Lombard? The latter is on the big list (and definitely out).
Probably not, but hey, any possible connection no matter how far fetched will be seized by the church. Might as well use Charlie Chaplin, as he had an office in the HGB in earlier times.
I Yawnalot says
Did my KTL next to Charlie’s old office back in the day. All done up it was, with cane walking stick and all. Probably the only honest thing in the whole building, except the exit of course
Denzel, Madonna, Lady GaGa and many others are getting auditing at Celebrity Centre but are not ready to come out. Look for them in the 2080 issue.
Old Surfer Dude says
That early? I thought 2200 at the earliest!
They’ve decided to move it forward as dictated by recent events.
It is proven conclusively that in public relations handling of black propaganda, only outflow pays off.
L. Ron Hubbard, meet Streisand Effect. May your relationship be long and filled with lulz..
Harpoona Frittata says
Love that Elron quote! He was one of the grand masters of the BIG Lie for sure.
Lines like that can serve as a cult member’s very own “gullibility self-rating scale”. If after reading that unsupported assertion you didn’t immediately have the thought, “How was it proven and to whom?” then you’re a Kool-Aid drinker for sure.
It’s just fortunate for Elron, and for the legacy of $cn as aa continuing con after his death, that the one thing that every Good $cientologist has learned completely is to never question. Otherwise, folks would be popping up all over asking for more details, clarifications, and posing questions about HOW stuff like this claim were “proven conclusively”. And it’s not just negative and critical comments that are put down in the same way that Elron suggested everyone who was below 2.0 on the tone scale should be dealt with either. Even neutral questions that merely seek clarification or ask for more detail are met with orders to “re-study your materials” or “find your MU,” implying that the Word of Elron is not only infallible, but also so crystal clear that any inability on your part to fully “duplicate” his meaning is your own fault.
Once you’ve fully bought into what amounts to an Elron-implanted censor in your mind, you can waltz right on past a hundred such wildly overblown and completely unsupported assertions like this one and never once think for yourself in any kind of critically analytic way…at that point, you’re a 10 on the gullibility rating scale. But, unfortunately, you’ll also never be the one to use it on yourself because, obviously, that would be “out tech” too;)
“The sun IS setting on scientology.”
This is a billion dollar behemoth and it ain’t gonna go without scratching and clawing. I would have thought the sun would have set after the FBI raid, the Times Article, The Truth Rundown article, Anonymous, The Debbie Cook Email, Anderson Cooper’s History of Violence, HBO’s Going Clear, not to mention all the books and articles and blogs.
This time my hopes are up. Leah’s show is having a huge impact and maybe because it’s not just the ex scientology community that is fed up with the church “getting away with it,” but never-ins, non scientologists, WOGS really want this church and its abuses to stop.
Just yesterday, when I thought my 15 minutes of fame were up, I was taking my cart of groceries to my car when I was stopped by one, then two people to congratulate me for “doing Leah’s show.” I listened to them for 10 minutes, telling me what they wanted to say. People at large are pissed off and have some story of someone they know or … – they have “BY-PASSED CHARGE!”
I was finally making my way to my car when a clerk, with his Publix apron still on, came out of the store briefly just to hug me and thank me and root me on and give me his prayers.
I was stunned.
The church better do better than this Celebrity Mag drive-by attempt to turn things around. But I don’t know what they can do – except stop the abuses and come clean. Is that possible? Or will all the brouhaha just fade away – AGAIN – when Leah’s series ends?
Mike Rinder says
That is wonderful Mary. It is surprising how deeply this is reaching into the world. I know we live near Clearwater and there is generally a higher interest in the subject here than in other places, but the reaction is MUCH broader than Going Clear. I have similar experiences to you everywhere I go. Yesterday at Costco. The day before at Starbucks (twice). Home Depot. Publix. etc etc It is heartening.
Let’s follow up this high interest with another Phil and Willie billboard in Clearwater and LA about disconnection. We can start donating toward it now.
Carol truex says
You mentioned people calling their elected representatives. Perhaps if it was mentioned more often about the fact that this organization pays no taxes even more people would do so. Seems to be topically relevant these days.
Gus Cox says
I think it is the weekly format that makes “Aftermath” different. This show is not a one-time shock, where they have time to recover, it’s week after week after week. And it’s not the same things over and over, it’s more abuses, different abuses, more people, every episode. It a Juggernaut of Truth, laying bare Scientology’s lies and bad deeds over and over and over.
And there are still four more episodes.
Gus Cox says
Correction: It *is a Juggernaut of Truth…
Kathy H. says
Is Alanna Masterson included? She’s a series regular on the Walking Dead, the highest rated show in cable TV history, very popular with the younger demographic that Scientology hopes to attract.
And Catherine Bell is still around. I think she and Brooke Daniells have found a way to have a happy life albeit distanced from the cult. Good for them. I doubt that Brooks Mom, longtime Flog FSM Penny Atwell (Jones) is too happy about the situation …………… I wonder if she has disconnected from her daughter?
And the moral of this story is don’t be gay, be 4.0!
Old Surfer Dude says
Can I still be 1.1?
Sure, you won, I won = 1.1
I Yawnalot says
If the ‘half’ is still vacant, can I have that? I’ve never been the same since Scientology and half is better than nothing I suppose.
If you guys twin, you can be 2.2
I used to be friends with Penny , Brook and her sister Phaedra. So the idea that Brook is now in a relationship with Catherine Bell , I think is so funny based on how Scn, feel about homosexuality. This must be driving Penny completely bonkers , who is one of these Clearwater Scn, so concerned about their “PR”.
Mike Wynski says
Got the toe tag all typed up for Scamology. Start gathering the autopsy team.
Hopefully the records won’t first be burned, like L. Con Tubbolard’s body was before it could be examined…
@mikew, I think you were making funny here, but scientology, with its long history of holding onto every scrap of paper about any “parishioner” that they can use against them has a darker history of destroying any record that can be used against it.
Anyone who was in GO or close to LRH at any time or even associated with Lisa McPherson has seen the destruction of documents. I have seen them burned and I think there are other oldtimers who have too. Lowwie talks about cutting pieces out of documents with razor blades. It is easy to make revisionist history in scientology when the background documents are “disappeared”.
Mike Wynski says
No worries Val. I watched a HUGE shredder (well more of a grinder) working 24/7/365 destroying church docs. And it was still heavily backlogged.
Nada Jurisich-Fontana says
Maybe they want to save some for future issues?
Kind of weird timing…..Hurricanes Leah and Lois are not even close to being done……so where will they go from here? I guess Elisabeth Moss just doesn’t have enough of a ‘dedicated glare’…..When does the filming for the New Years event take place?
Does anyone know whatever happened to Nazanin Boniadi — the one that was arranged to date Tom Cruise? She did an excellent job in the show Homeland. I think she is in the new Ben Hur movie too.
Are Juliette Lewis and Mark Isham still in?
Btw, Mike, great job to you — and everyone — on Leah’s show! Thank you!
Nazanin is long gon, you can follow her on twitter.
Nazanin Boniadi is out.
She tweeted support for Leah’s show not long ago.
Roger Y says
“The sun is setting on scientology” – Finanlly, a positive statement about the cult, I mean the church!
Also missing , the very talented, Michael Pena, who has recently done services at Flag. Also whats her name from Mad Men, she is a recognizable Scientology actress. Where is she ?
Joe Pendleton says
Elisabeth Moss (Mad Men), still in? She’s probably the most accomplished Scientology actor of the past decade. I bet she’s either out or keeping a VERY low profile because of her career.
But Carol Lombard in Celebrity mag??????? She was killed in a plane crash during WORLD WAR TWO fercryinoutloud!!!!!! Who’s in the next issue … her widower Clark Gable????
My guess is W. C. Fields.
I Yawnalot says
Wine… makes you continuously happy. Yes indeed.
Ah, but didn’t you know Carole Lombard used to stay at the Manor Hotel – before it became the Manor Hotel and then Celebrity Centre. It was then called the Château Élysée. I found this out on a Google search.
“Throughout the thirties and forties, the château was an industry hangout. Luminaries who stayed there include Errol Flynn, Carole Lombard, Katharine Hepburn, and Cary Grant, and the Church invokes its Hollywood lore proudly.” http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/01/14/chateau-scientology
So that’s Carole Lombard’s connection to Celebrity Centre. Just a bit of a stretch. 🙄
That would be Elisabeth Moss?
Elizabeth Moss, yes thank you Joe and Trev., I was too lazy to google it.
Mike Rinder says
Yes, should have included her. She is a legitimate star (wonderful actress). She spells her name Elisabeth BTW. Her parents are dedicated bubble dwellers — Ron Moss used to be Chick Corea’s manager and used to be best buds with Ron Miscavige. Elisabeth has made some comments here and there over the years. But never made any big splash. I think she is another one who has a real agent and PR person who tell her to stay as far away as she can from the toxic mess that is scientology.
She, like the other missing, donated enough to get out of being in the mag 😉
Heh anything to reg a buck now in the cult.
Pena is a great actor. Hope he comes to his senses.