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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2021 03:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390944&quot;&gt;Skyler23&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Skyler :)]]></description>
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<p>Thank you, Skyler 🙂</p>
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		By: Brian J Sheen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390941&quot;&gt;Skyler23&lt;/a&gt;.

From my experience I have never seen things happen the way you are imagining. I don&#039;t think there is any type of this kind of coercion to join staff happening with secrets found in session. Instead, I find it usually happens it quite a different fashion. Someone has a big win on a course or in session, and while on the high of their altered state they are convinced only Scientology can accomplish this and others are in desperate need to get this help too and what better purpose in life can there be but helping others achieve this too. It is a hypnotic HIGH, and like a drug, the mind, the brain wants more, more, more. That&#039;s what happened to me after doing TR 0 for two hours

But, Yes, you are right,  ones drug use is reviewed in great detail, but I do not believe with the purpose to use this against them to sign up for staff.It WILL be used to help sell lots of auditing or Purif packages and it WILL be used as reason auditing didn&#039;t produce the results you were promised. 

 Perhaps your drug background might be used against someone if they later get declared an SP and attack COS, but otherwise it just lays dormant in your pc folder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390941">Skyler23</a>.</p>
<p>From my experience I have never seen things happen the way you are imagining. I don&#8217;t think there is any type of this kind of coercion to join staff happening with secrets found in session. Instead, I find it usually happens it quite a different fashion. Someone has a big win on a course or in session, and while on the high of their altered state they are convinced only Scientology can accomplish this and others are in desperate need to get this help too and what better purpose in life can there be but helping others achieve this too. It is a hypnotic HIGH, and like a drug, the mind, the brain wants more, more, more. That&#8217;s what happened to me after doing TR 0 for two hours</p>
<p>But, Yes, you are right,  ones drug use is reviewed in great detail, but I do not believe with the purpose to use this against them to sign up for staff.It WILL be used to help sell lots of auditing or Purif packages and it WILL be used as reason auditing didn&#8217;t produce the results you were promised. </p>
<p> Perhaps your drug background might be used against someone if they later get declared an SP and attack COS, but otherwise it just lays dormant in your pc folder.</p>
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		By: Jen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 12:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390569&quot;&gt;Gail Paige&lt;/a&gt;.

When the money stops coming in and the narcissist supply is cut off, the narcissistic manipulators go back to &quot;love bombing&quot; to being nice until they can start being abusive again. It&#039;s a textbook pattern that should be taught in school so the unsuspecting aren&#039;t baffled by the BS. There&#039;s nothing original here. It&#039;s all extremely predictable. Anyone with a dysfunctional family member can benefit from leaning about the personality of a narcissist. It&#039;s about learning how to take care of yourself first so the narcissist doesn&#039;t get the upper hand]]></description>
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<p>When the money stops coming in and the narcissist supply is cut off, the narcissistic manipulators go back to &#8220;love bombing&#8221; to being nice until they can start being abusive again. It&#8217;s a textbook pattern that should be taught in school so the unsuspecting aren&#8217;t baffled by the BS. There&#8217;s nothing original here. It&#8217;s all extremely predictable. Anyone with a dysfunctional family member can benefit from leaning about the personality of a narcissist. It&#8217;s about learning how to take care of yourself first so the narcissist doesn&#8217;t get the upper hand</p>
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		By: Skyler23		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 11:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390667&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

That was wonderful Aqua! You had some kind of power in your psyche that warned you and protected you from signing that horrible document.

If you had signed it, your life would have unfolded in a very different way. It would have unfolded in a most terrible and most ugly way.

Just being a member for as long as you were, was bad enough. Had you signed that document, the result may well have been the end of your life - or at least a life so horrible and painful that you would have wished for it to end.

I am very extremely happy you refused to sign. Good on you, Lady!]]></description>
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<p>That was wonderful Aqua! You had some kind of power in your psyche that warned you and protected you from signing that horrible document.</p>
<p>If you had signed it, your life would have unfolded in a very different way. It would have unfolded in a most terrible and most ugly way.</p>
<p>Just being a member for as long as you were, was bad enough. Had you signed that document, the result may well have been the end of your life &#8211; or at least a life so horrible and painful that you would have wished for it to end.</p>
<p>I am very extremely happy you refused to sign. Good on you, Lady!</p>
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		By: Skyler23		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 11:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390859&quot;&gt;Brian J Sheen&lt;/a&gt;.

To Brian J. Sheen: I hope the following may be the kind of info you are looking for:

I have no first hand experience with being on staff. But as I understand it, the timing as to when someone gets on staff is only after they have had enough auditing sessions such that the cult knows enough dirt about them, they can be threatened into following orders or their dirty secrets will be used to cause them enormous embarrassment. In other words, they have to worry about extortion.

In this way, once someone joins staff, they can be forced to work long hours for almost no money and they can be forced to do all kinds of back-breaking menial tasks and work hard for maybe 16 hours per day.  In addition, they can be made to accept all kinds of humiliating tasks or else the cult will reveal their secrets to cause them great harm. (i.e. extortion)

When I use the word &quot;force&quot;, I don&#039;t mean they will get physically beaten if they don&#039;t obey (although the threat of physical beatings is indeed present). But they will know the threat of disclosure of their worst past conduct will be revealed to the people they most fear would find out.

In my case, during my first auditing session, the auditor asked me to reveal the names of all the drugs I had ever taken. He did this after learning I was working as an executive with a large corporation and we both knew that if that info was ever divulged to my employer, it would cause me terrible problems at work and could easily wind up with me losing my job.

From what I have heard, this is a very common technique used to get new members &quot;in line&quot; and force them to follow the orders of the cult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390859">Brian J Sheen</a>.</p>
<p>To Brian J. Sheen: I hope the following may be the kind of info you are looking for:</p>
<p>I have no first hand experience with being on staff. But as I understand it, the timing as to when someone gets on staff is only after they have had enough auditing sessions such that the cult knows enough dirt about them, they can be threatened into following orders or their dirty secrets will be used to cause them enormous embarrassment. In other words, they have to worry about extortion.</p>
<p>In this way, once someone joins staff, they can be forced to work long hours for almost no money and they can be forced to do all kinds of back-breaking menial tasks and work hard for maybe 16 hours per day.  In addition, they can be made to accept all kinds of humiliating tasks or else the cult will reveal their secrets to cause them great harm. (i.e. extortion)</p>
<p>When I use the word &#8220;force&#8221;, I don&#8217;t mean they will get physically beaten if they don&#8217;t obey (although the threat of physical beatings is indeed present). But they will know the threat of disclosure of their worst past conduct will be revealed to the people they most fear would find out.</p>
<p>In my case, during my first auditing session, the auditor asked me to reveal the names of all the drugs I had ever taken. He did this after learning I was working as an executive with a large corporation and we both knew that if that info was ever divulged to my employer, it would cause me terrible problems at work and could easily wind up with me losing my job.</p>
<p>From what I have heard, this is a very common technique used to get new members &#8220;in line&#8221; and force them to follow the orders of the cult.</p>
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		By: Doug Sprinkle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Sprinkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 02:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390796&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winle&lt;/a&gt;.

That sounds enticing, sign me up now.]]></description>
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<p>That sounds enticing, sign me up now.</p>
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		By: Brian J Sheen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian J Sheen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2021 16:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Say what? Being on staff is the opposite of being in a loving family, there is NO love, there is NO emotional bond, there is NO empathy. Staff members ,like all Scientologists are dehumanized and turned into a STAT! If you are loving and caring on staff and show your emotions you are reprimanded for having &quot;case&quot; on post or screamed at for daring to have H,E and R.....human emotion and reaction! 

It&#039;s interesting this came up today, for as I was converting my Relentless, Rescuing My Daughter form Scientology&#039;s Illustrated book into an audio book for Audible, I was challenged how to share the messages from the over 200 images in the book, to paint the pictures of them in words. While doing this I focused on what I now realize is THE most devastating aspect of Scientology, it&#039;s dehumanizing process of what I am calling &quot;Ethics Conditioning.&quot; This process turns every staff member and student into a STAT, a number to be judged weekly by. 

I would love to hear feedback on this, but for myself ,it took me 15 years to set this Stat-mania aside to step back and enjoy the moment and &quot;smell the roses&quot; without concern of having to be an Upstat so as not to be treated as a Downstat! More than ever this has motivated me to rescue my grandson from this type of conditioning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what? Being on staff is the opposite of being in a loving family, there is NO love, there is NO emotional bond, there is NO empathy. Staff members ,like all Scientologists are dehumanized and turned into a STAT! If you are loving and caring on staff and show your emotions you are reprimanded for having &#8220;case&#8221; on post or screamed at for daring to have H,E and R&#8230;..human emotion and reaction! </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting this came up today, for as I was converting my Relentless, Rescuing My Daughter form Scientology&#8217;s Illustrated book into an audio book for Audible, I was challenged how to share the messages from the over 200 images in the book, to paint the pictures of them in words. While doing this I focused on what I now realize is THE most devastating aspect of Scientology, it&#8217;s dehumanizing process of what I am calling &#8220;Ethics Conditioning.&#8221; This process turns every staff member and student into a STAT, a number to be judged weekly by. </p>
<p>I would love to hear feedback on this, but for myself ,it took me 15 years to set this Stat-mania aside to step back and enjoy the moment and &#8220;smell the roses&#8221; without concern of having to be an Upstat so as not to be treated as a Downstat! More than ever this has motivated me to rescue my grandson from this type of conditioning.</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rip Van Winkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2021 02:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390667&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

There were those public I could never get.

Later....

I became one.

&#060;3]]></description>
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<p>There were those public I could never get.</p>
<p>Later&#8230;.</p>
<p>I became one.</p>
<p>&lt;3</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rip Van Winle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2021 01:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390726&quot;&gt;Doug Sprinkle&lt;/a&gt;.

If you had a day job/night job when you joined, you would eventually find that the staff demands took precedence and made the job less valuable.  You&#039;d&#039;ve been encouraged to quit that job, and ........

then perhaps steered towards working for a local Scio.  One who would be more amenable to All-hands actions that keep you on post for 24 hours straight, or orders to report to CLO/FOLO for an indefinite time/abuse frame

You&#039;d work for that scio woggish type job until the next SO mission came to town and decided those asshats were leeches distracting the staff.  Heads on pikes, a few field declares, ...

In your off hours you could drive cab, sell stuff, laser prints, rugs, window cleaning, carpet cleaning, roofing, flyer delivery, amway, house painting...  grab a few hours work here and there just to scrape by, live communally 3 to a bedroom with other staff...

If you were an auditor in the HGC, you could audit in the day for money from Day org. (NO)  (YES)  (NOOO)  (&quot;AO was doing it!&quot;)  
or take your OWN paying PCs at your house (SP! RIp Off!)  (great solution, using the tek to flourish and prosper!)

Log Rolling.

It was constant log rolling.

But, because Scn is just so damn cool, you&#039;ll be running a lot of this stuff on yourself as your world devolves into one imperative

show up and clear the planet or die trying.

------

Happy Friday.  

Chips and cheese as I please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390726">Doug Sprinkle</a>.</p>
<p>If you had a day job/night job when you joined, you would eventually find that the staff demands took precedence and made the job less valuable.  You&#8217;d&#8217;ve been encouraged to quit that job, and &#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>then perhaps steered towards working for a local Scio.  One who would be more amenable to All-hands actions that keep you on post for 24 hours straight, or orders to report to CLO/FOLO for an indefinite time/abuse frame</p>
<p>You&#8217;d work for that scio woggish type job until the next SO mission came to town and decided those asshats were leeches distracting the staff.  Heads on pikes, a few field declares, &#8230;</p>
<p>In your off hours you could drive cab, sell stuff, laser prints, rugs, window cleaning, carpet cleaning, roofing, flyer delivery, amway, house painting&#8230;  grab a few hours work here and there just to scrape by, live communally 3 to a bedroom with other staff&#8230;</p>
<p>If you were an auditor in the HGC, you could audit in the day for money from Day org. (NO)  (YES)  (NOOO)  (&#8220;AO was doing it!&#8221;)<br />
or take your OWN paying PCs at your house (SP! RIp Off!)  (great solution, using the tek to flourish and prosper!)</p>
<p>Log Rolling.</p>
<p>It was constant log rolling.</p>
<p>But, because Scn is just so damn cool, you&#8217;ll be running a lot of this stuff on yourself as your world devolves into one imperative</p>
<p>show up and clear the planet or die trying.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Happy Friday.  </p>
<p>Chips and cheese as I please.</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rip Van Winkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2021 01:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/change-the-future-of-this-planet-now/#comment-390735&quot;&gt;Mary Kahn&lt;/a&gt;.

the further away you get, the crazier it seems.


&quot;you need to___________&quot;

it&#039;s this insane universal right, coming across your telephone line from some asshat you&#039;ve not only never met, they just called your name from a list.]]></description>
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<p>the further away you get, the crazier it seems.</p>
<p>&#8220;you need to___________&#8221;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s this insane universal right, coming across your telephone line from some asshat you&#8217;ve not only never met, they just called your name from a list.</p>
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