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		By: Susan Harbison		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2020 04:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370511&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyx75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I’ve given a lot of thought of why academic fails to even begin to seriously study Scientology properly.&quot;

What would be the point of studying one unstable man&#039;s delusions?  The &quot;technology&quot; itself is a proven failure. I briefly wondered if Hubtard actually believed in his tech.  
Then I remembered that he knew from the beginning that once he hooked a member, he had to isolate them so they wouldn&#039;t learn the truth.  The whole thing is a con and Hubtard knew it.

When Dianetics came out The New Republic called it a &quot;bold and immodest mixture of complete nonsense and perfectly reasonable common sense, taken from long acknowledged findings and disguised and distorted by a crazy, newly invented terminology&quot;. Some of Hubbard&#039;s fellow science fiction writers also criticized it; Isaac Asimov considered it &quot;gibberish&quot; while Jack Williamson called it &quot;a lunatic revision of Freudian psychology&quot;. 

Hubtard, figured out how to disguise pure BS in a way that made people want it.  That was his only real achievement.  

There are people that believe crystals can do wondrous things. Science knows otherwise.  No one is going to study the false claims of the believers or the sellers. There isn&#039;t much to learn by studying a provably false belief or claim.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370511">chuckbeattyx75to03</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’ve given a lot of thought of why academic fails to even begin to seriously study Scientology properly.&#8221;</p>
<p>What would be the point of studying one unstable man&#8217;s delusions?  The &#8220;technology&#8221; itself is a proven failure. I briefly wondered if Hubtard actually believed in his tech.<br />
Then I remembered that he knew from the beginning that once he hooked a member, he had to isolate them so they wouldn&#8217;t learn the truth.  The whole thing is a con and Hubtard knew it.</p>
<p>When Dianetics came out The New Republic called it a &#8220;bold and immodest mixture of complete nonsense and perfectly reasonable common sense, taken from long acknowledged findings and disguised and distorted by a crazy, newly invented terminology&#8221;. Some of Hubbard&#8217;s fellow science fiction writers also criticized it; Isaac Asimov considered it &#8220;gibberish&#8221; while Jack Williamson called it &#8220;a lunatic revision of Freudian psychology&#8221;. </p>
<p>Hubtard, figured out how to disguise pure BS in a way that made people want it.  That was his only real achievement.  </p>
<p>There are people that believe crystals can do wondrous things. Science knows otherwise.  No one is going to study the false claims of the believers or the sellers. There isn&#8217;t much to learn by studying a provably false belief or claim.</p>
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		By: Jeannette		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2020 06:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370511&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyx75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

Not sure if Scientology has an IRB of sorts - but I highly doubt Scientology would even give permission for a study to commence - unless it guaranteed a favorable outcome for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370511">chuckbeattyx75to03</a>.</p>
<p>Not sure if Scientology has an IRB of sorts &#8211; but I highly doubt Scientology would even give permission for a study to commence &#8211; unless it guaranteed a favorable outcome for them.</p>
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		By: i		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370653&quot;&gt;Prof Aharon Friedman&lt;/a&gt;.

True. Hubbard once said in some 50s lecture. &quot;We have all the tech, I just keep shuffling the deck.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370653">Prof Aharon Friedman</a>.</p>
<p>True. Hubbard once said in some 50s lecture. &#8220;We have all the tech, I just keep shuffling the deck.&#8221;</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It dawned on me again on my weekly scanning of this site a sentence in their promo that made me remember being quite conned, pity it took so long to wake up to the scam. ie &quot;What happens if I don&#039;t go clear on NED?&quot; What a load of sneaky bs that is. Even if it didn&#039;t directly apply to you, it still sows the seed of self generated compliance that there is a remedy to any doubts that you may have and is generally covered with, &quot;well, it must be something to do with me not understanding something or I&#039;m just not quite there yet - all be handled by the next CS, Bridge step, tech estimate, MU finding etc. What about the 100% work-ability of the tech? When does that kick in? Coupled with the incredibly expensive alternatives of not following the path &#038; attesting... Geezers, what a cunning slippery slope to making you fit your mind and life into their agenda and definitions. Clear the planet? What a con!
Really... fuck Scientology!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It dawned on me again on my weekly scanning of this site a sentence in their promo that made me remember being quite conned, pity it took so long to wake up to the scam. ie &#8220;What happens if I don&#8217;t go clear on NED?&#8221; What a load of sneaky bs that is. Even if it didn&#8217;t directly apply to you, it still sows the seed of self generated compliance that there is a remedy to any doubts that you may have and is generally covered with, &#8220;well, it must be something to do with me not understanding something or I&#8217;m just not quite there yet &#8211; all be handled by the next CS, Bridge step, tech estimate, MU finding etc. What about the 100% work-ability of the tech? When does that kick in? Coupled with the incredibly expensive alternatives of not following the path &amp; attesting&#8230; Geezers, what a cunning slippery slope to making you fit your mind and life into their agenda and definitions. Clear the planet? What a con!<br />
Really&#8230; fuck Scientology!</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales (You Wish) Bill Straass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370707</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales (You Wish) Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370403&quot;&gt;Karen de la Carriere&lt;/a&gt;.

LRH makes perfect sense to me. 
     Everyone knows that Money is the Root of all Evil so if you clear everyone&#039;s Bank accounts, you will have Cleared the Planet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370403">Karen de la Carriere</a>.</p>
<p>LRH makes perfect sense to me.<br />
     Everyone knows that Money is the Root of all Evil so if you clear everyone&#8217;s Bank accounts, you will have Cleared the Planet.</p>
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		By: Mary Snow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370614&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

I think Crowley got a bad rap because he cultivated it by purposely outraging the British press in his era. He wanted to repel them. He wanted to repel small thinkers.

Things he did and said to the press that drove them batty wouldn&#039;t get a raised eyebrow these days.

He was openly bisexual. He wore skirts and other wacky outfits. And there&#039;s a reason he called himself the Beast and 666. In the Tarot, including the deck he designed, the Devil is actually a protector of the secrets to the universe. 

Logically, if you wanted to protect those secrets from people who would exploit the knowledge for negative purposes, would you put a fluffy miniature poodle to guard the gate? Or would you put the scariest, meanest junkyard dog on guard duty? 

The Devil in the Tarot is an illusion meant to scare away the faint of heart and the undesirables attempting the path to enlightenment. It&#039;s a failsafe system. It&#039;s not the Christian devil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370614">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>I think Crowley got a bad rap because he cultivated it by purposely outraging the British press in his era. He wanted to repel them. He wanted to repel small thinkers.</p>
<p>Things he did and said to the press that drove them batty wouldn&#8217;t get a raised eyebrow these days.</p>
<p>He was openly bisexual. He wore skirts and other wacky outfits. And there&#8217;s a reason he called himself the Beast and 666. In the Tarot, including the deck he designed, the Devil is actually a protector of the secrets to the universe. </p>
<p>Logically, if you wanted to protect those secrets from people who would exploit the knowledge for negative purposes, would you put a fluffy miniature poodle to guard the gate? Or would you put the scariest, meanest junkyard dog on guard duty? </p>
<p>The Devil in the Tarot is an illusion meant to scare away the faint of heart and the undesirables attempting the path to enlightenment. It&#8217;s a failsafe system. It&#8217;s not the Christian devil.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370689</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 15:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370435&quot;&gt;Peggy L&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Peggy. 
     Yes, I am doing relatively OK. As an update, I had a cardiac ablation last month to handle (basically kill) some errant heart cells that were generating electricity and interefering with my heart beat. They run wires and a device which burns a spot in the heart up the arteries in your thighs into your heart. They use 3 EKG machines at once. Highly technical. It took over 8 hours. Some of the arythmias came back but the doctor said that they can be generated from the inside or the outside of the heart. Mine were probably from both. They do the inside first as it is a much less risky procedure than having to go in from the outside. So my problem, though not cured, is apparently better than it was and the doctor is happy to leave it at that for now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370435">Peggy L</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Peggy.<br />
     Yes, I am doing relatively OK. As an update, I had a cardiac ablation last month to handle (basically kill) some errant heart cells that were generating electricity and interefering with my heart beat. They run wires and a device which burns a spot in the heart up the arteries in your thighs into your heart. They use 3 EKG machines at once. Highly technical. It took over 8 hours. Some of the arythmias came back but the doctor said that they can be generated from the inside or the outside of the heart. Mine were probably from both. They do the inside first as it is a much less risky procedure than having to go in from the outside. So my problem, though not cured, is apparently better than it was and the doctor is happy to leave it at that for now.</p>
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		By: mwesten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 13:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370576&quot;&gt;Mary Snow&lt;/a&gt;.

Love, according to Crowley, is the &quot;assimilation of phenomena&quot; and the union of self with the universe. &#039;Love under Will&#039;, as no doubt you&#039;re aware, means simply to experience anything, without prejudice, in accordance with one&#039;s ultimate purpose. This is, in part, reflected in the first of Hubbard&#039;s &quot;Two Rules For Happy Living.&quot;

Scientology is supposed to remove the barriers and influences preventing the individual from being/knowing himself. And in some respects, it does.

But even if scientology does help some confront and experience life more easily, the church exploits this with hefty price tags, incessant crush regging and its arsenal of cruel and unusual punishments.

Even if scientology does help some find their true purpose, the church will instill new purposes and assume much greater influence and control.

Even if scientology does help some become more empowered and &quot;enlightened&quot;, it is within the construct of expectation and Hubbard&#039;s preconditioned sci-fi narrative. 

OT9 should have only one command: wordclear &quot;placebo effect.&quot; Once completed, the OT is handed a small piece of paper... &lt;em&gt;&quot;The gains were real but the path you walked was illusory. I&#039;m sorry. Here&#039;s a full refund. Enjoy your life. Love, DM.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370576">Mary Snow</a>.</p>
<p>Love, according to Crowley, is the &#8220;assimilation of phenomena&#8221; and the union of self with the universe. &#8216;Love under Will&#8217;, as no doubt you&#8217;re aware, means simply to experience anything, without prejudice, in accordance with one&#8217;s ultimate purpose. This is, in part, reflected in the first of Hubbard&#8217;s &#8220;Two Rules For Happy Living.&#8221;</p>
<p>Scientology is supposed to remove the barriers and influences preventing the individual from being/knowing himself. And in some respects, it does.</p>
<p>But even if scientology does help some confront and experience life more easily, the church exploits this with hefty price tags, incessant crush regging and its arsenal of cruel and unusual punishments.</p>
<p>Even if scientology does help some find their true purpose, the church will instill new purposes and assume much greater influence and control.</p>
<p>Even if scientology does help some become more empowered and &#8220;enlightened&#8221;, it is within the construct of expectation and Hubbard&#8217;s preconditioned sci-fi narrative. </p>
<p>OT9 should have only one command: wordclear &#8220;placebo effect.&#8221; Once completed, the OT is handed a small piece of paper&#8230; <em>&#8220;The gains were real but the path you walked was illusory. I&#8217;m sorry. Here&#8217;s a full refund. Enjoy your life. Love, DM.&#8221;</em></p>
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		By: Prof Aharon Friedman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 09:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love how you stick your thumb in the eye of Miscaviege by publishing the “confidential” Clear bulletins. The funny thing is that the same “Clear Cognition” while appearing in confidential bulletins, also appear in Lafayette’s open publication, such as Dianetics 55. The same way that the OT3 materials appear in his book “Revolt in the Sky”. 

I have found the “Clear Cognition” a few months after being in Scientology. I believe that Lafayette, the “big the thetan” had the memory of a fish. He would realize something, write it up, and then realize it again for the first time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how you stick your thumb in the eye of Miscaviege by publishing the “confidential” Clear bulletins. The funny thing is that the same “Clear Cognition” while appearing in confidential bulletins, also appear in Lafayette’s open publication, such as Dianetics 55. The same way that the OT3 materials appear in his book “Revolt in the Sky”. </p>
<p>I have found the “Clear Cognition” a few months after being in Scientology. I believe that Lafayette, the “big the thetan” had the memory of a fish. He would realize something, write it up, and then realize it again for the first time.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2020 02:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370597&quot;&gt;jim rowles&lt;/a&gt;.

Laughter - To be expected - It was the Dawning of The Age of Aquarius and a lot of people were still fried on psychedelics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearing-the-planet-2/#comment-370597">jim rowles</a>.</p>
<p>Laughter &#8211; To be expected &#8211; It was the Dawning of The Age of Aquarius and a lot of people were still fried on psychedelics.</p>
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