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		By: Jenyfurrr		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-380049</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2021 19:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379698&quot;&gt;Glenn&lt;/a&gt;.

Lol I didn’t catch that until you called it out! Finally - honesty in a Scio-publication!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379698">Glenn</a>.</p>
<p>Lol I didn’t catch that until you called it out! Finally &#8211; honesty in a Scio-publication!</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrr		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-380047</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2021 18:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379704&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for this, C! Hope you’re doing well and enjoying the rain! Did you guys get any snow earlier this week? It was CRAZY to see all these places in SoCal getting snow like that! Hugs to you C and I hope all is well in your corner of the world!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379704">Cece</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for this, C! Hope you’re doing well and enjoying the rain! Did you guys get any snow earlier this week? It was CRAZY to see all these places in SoCal getting snow like that! Hugs to you C and I hope all is well in your corner of the world!</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrr		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-380046</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenyfurrr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2021 18:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379705&quot;&gt;Loosing my Religion&lt;/a&gt;.

LMR - That’s interesting! I don’t think I’ve heard of the analytical mind as a dangerous thing - though considering “reasonable-ness” is a “bad” thing, it makes sense. You do an excellent job of sharing experiences and perspectives that help me (being a never-in) better understand.

Also - that’s an excellent point about the “chasm” as that’s often where life puts us when things have gotten extreme. I think looking out at that chasm, feeling the unknown and figuring out how to handle it all is EXACTLY where we see what we’re made of and also what causes us to grow mentally/emotionally!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379705">Loosing my Religion</a>.</p>
<p>LMR &#8211; That’s interesting! I don’t think I’ve heard of the analytical mind as a dangerous thing &#8211; though considering “reasonable-ness” is a “bad” thing, it makes sense. You do an excellent job of sharing experiences and perspectives that help me (being a never-in) better understand.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; that’s an excellent point about the “chasm” as that’s often where life puts us when things have gotten extreme. I think looking out at that chasm, feeling the unknown and figuring out how to handle it all is EXACTLY where we see what we’re made of and also what causes us to grow mentally/emotionally!</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2021 18:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379706&quot;&gt;Balletlady&lt;/a&gt;.

Lol you totally took me back to my first responder training. I worked for a huge medical device company, with clean rooms and various labs... it’s CA, so the buildings were on “rollers” to withstand our many earthquakes (let me tell you, they live up to their name when amidst an earthquake!) so we had to have trained first responder in every department of every building on the campus. 
I recall the “I’m Clear!” during AED training and then also when we ran disaster drills (or during the one fire that occurred while I was there) and had to let emergency personnel know we’d gotten everyone out... so basically last check was running through both restrooms, yelling, “I’m CLEAR!” while running to the exit. How apropos- avoiding someone getting a shock or running through and out of the bathroom was the whole of  my experience as a “Clear!” ;P

Miss you dear friend! I’ve been so remiss at email and catching up! AND I owe you pics... your baby-angel Haven is QUITE the chatterbox and just hit 18mos! With Nee &#038; Linc both testing on the autism spectrum, it’s been a long time since we’ve dealt with neurotypical babyhood. She is a firecracker, determined to do whatever everyone else is doing and then some! Hope the hubby is staying safe amidst all the ice! And most importantly, I’m glad you’re staying safe &#038; healthy! Hope your daughter is staying that way and thank her for being a nurse super-hero amidst this craziness! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f618.png" alt="😘" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> xoxo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379706">Balletlady</a>.</p>
<p>Lol you totally took me back to my first responder training. I worked for a huge medical device company, with clean rooms and various labs&#8230; it’s CA, so the buildings were on “rollers” to withstand our many earthquakes (let me tell you, they live up to their name when amidst an earthquake!) so we had to have trained first responder in every department of every building on the campus.<br />
I recall the “I’m Clear!” during AED training and then also when we ran disaster drills (or during the one fire that occurred while I was there) and had to let emergency personnel know we’d gotten everyone out&#8230; so basically last check was running through both restrooms, yelling, “I’m CLEAR!” while running to the exit. How apropos- avoiding someone getting a shock or running through and out of the bathroom was the whole of  my experience as a “Clear!” ;P</p>
<p>Miss you dear friend! I’ve been so remiss at email and catching up! AND I owe you pics&#8230; your baby-angel Haven is QUITE the chatterbox and just hit 18mos! With Nee &amp; Linc both testing on the autism spectrum, it’s been a long time since we’ve dealt with neurotypical babyhood. She is a firecracker, determined to do whatever everyone else is doing and then some! Hope the hubby is staying safe amidst all the ice! And most importantly, I’m glad you’re staying safe &amp; healthy! Hope your daughter is staying that way and thank her for being a nurse super-hero amidst this craziness! 😘 xoxo</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2021 18:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379740&quot;&gt;Chris Shugart&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris -
I’m going to have to adopt/borrow your credo, that’s a good one!

PS - I’m re-reading your Fractured Journey right now - so well told! (Anyone else who sees this and doesn’t know what I’m talking about, Chris wrote a book on his journey in Scientology called Fractured Journey. It’s excellent and a great perspective on what life can be like for the more common Public scientologist and eventually staff member (but not Sea Org). He does an excellent job of taking one on a journey through the times, places and experiences he had.
DEF a worthy read!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379740">Chris Shugart</a>.</p>
<p>Chris &#8211;<br />
I’m going to have to adopt/borrow your credo, that’s a good one!</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I’m re-reading your Fractured Journey right now &#8211; so well told! (Anyone else who sees this and doesn’t know what I’m talking about, Chris wrote a book on his journey in Scientology called Fractured Journey. It’s excellent and a great perspective on what life can be like for the more common Public scientologist and eventually staff member (but not Sea Org). He does an excellent job of taking one on a journey through the times, places and experiences he had.<br />
DEF a worthy read!</p>
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		By: mwesten		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379781&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe so. But it&#039;s particularly hard to take a clear&#039;s claimed reality seriously when his/her belief is so obviously born out of ideological attachment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379781">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe so. But it&#8217;s particularly hard to take a clear&#8217;s claimed reality seriously when his/her belief is so obviously born out of ideological attachment.</p>
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		By: jim rowles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379740&quot;&gt;Chris Shugart&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris,

Discussing a subject with a person who&#039;s beliefs are &#039;certainties&#039; is like administrating medications to a corpse.  

Thomas Paine plagiary]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379740">Chris Shugart</a>.</p>
<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Discussing a subject with a person who&#8217;s beliefs are &#8216;certainties&#8217; is like administrating medications to a corpse.  </p>
<p>Thomas Paine plagiary</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 14:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t Central Ohio the one reported as still staffed with Sea Org after their &quot;opening&quot;?  The guy might indeed be getting better than average auditing for a local org, due to that anomaly.

It sounded like there were a couple of dozen Sea Org in Columbus, more than the normal staff of an org these days, though approaching the sort of high they try to hit when a new &quot;ideal&quot; facility opens.  The same thing was supposed to be going on in Kansas City, where they even tried to buy housing for the Sea Org.  

Typically, staffing has crashed back down to normal after an opening, and the sea org sent out have left before long.  It will be interesting when we finally get some insider information about just what is going on with these new staffing efforts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Central Ohio the one reported as still staffed with Sea Org after their &#8220;opening&#8221;?  The guy might indeed be getting better than average auditing for a local org, due to that anomaly.</p>
<p>It sounded like there were a couple of dozen Sea Org in Columbus, more than the normal staff of an org these days, though approaching the sort of high they try to hit when a new &#8220;ideal&#8221; facility opens.  The same thing was supposed to be going on in Kansas City, where they even tried to buy housing for the Sea Org.  </p>
<p>Typically, staffing has crashed back down to normal after an opening, and the sea org sent out have left before long.  It will be interesting when we finally get some insider information about just what is going on with these new staffing efforts.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379689&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

In the past someone posted a link to the scn unabridged Tek Dictionary which I downloaded to a tablet computer. Unfortunately I don&#039;t have the link or I&#039;d post it. Here are a couple of descriptions of &quot;a Clear&quot; which might be acceptable and assumed attainable to a rational person unaware of the overall picture of scn.

a thetan who can be at cause knowingly and at will over mental matter, energy, space and time as regards the first dynamic (survival for self).

a Clear, in an absolute sense, would be a person who could confront anything and everything in the past, present and future.

a Clear is not an all knowing being. A Clear is someone who has lost the mass, energy, space and time connected with the thing called the mind.

a thetan cleared of enforced and unwanted behavior patterns and discomforts.

one who has become the basic individual through auditing.
,.........................................

And so on and so forth as Mr. Hubbard liked to say. lol. It&#039;s a lengthy entry with twelve attributes so I cherry picked and transcribed a couple of the short ones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379689">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>In the past someone posted a link to the scn unabridged Tek Dictionary which I downloaded to a tablet computer. Unfortunately I don&#8217;t have the link or I&#8217;d post it. Here are a couple of descriptions of &#8220;a Clear&#8221; which might be acceptable and assumed attainable to a rational person unaware of the overall picture of scn.</p>
<p>a thetan who can be at cause knowingly and at will over mental matter, energy, space and time as regards the first dynamic (survival for self).</p>
<p>a Clear, in an absolute sense, would be a person who could confront anything and everything in the past, present and future.</p>
<p>a Clear is not an all knowing being. A Clear is someone who has lost the mass, energy, space and time connected with the thing called the mind.</p>
<p>a thetan cleared of enforced and unwanted behavior patterns and discomforts.</p>
<p>one who has become the basic individual through auditing.<br />
,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>And so on and so forth as Mr. Hubbard liked to say. lol. It&#8217;s a lengthy entry with twelve attributes so I cherry picked and transcribed a couple of the short ones.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 11:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379750&quot;&gt;mwesten&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting point. Arguably all realities are contrived, for example the Green New Deal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearly-not-clear/#comment-379750">mwesten</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting point. Arguably all realities are contrived, for example the Green New Deal.</p>
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