pareidolius, nice to see you here. In fact, “the real core of Scientology” is anything but “endless … bureaucracy” … just the opposite in fact. We’re simply discussing the organizational aspects … the actual philosophy is an entirely different subject.

As an Admin trained former staff member, I have waded through the same muddied waters numerous times, trying to sort out why “Admin Tech” just didn’t get the job done, no matter how hard I or others tried. I finally stopped blaming myself for a lack of effort – which was totally untrue – and focused on what I was actually observing. I have finally come to the conclusion that the Admin Tech, as it existed, was NEVER anything more than philosophical observations of the Third Dynamic in play. The lie was in calling it a technology.

One assumed that because LRH came up with it that it had the same efficacy as Red of White – once again it NEVER did.

Businesses succeed because business principles are applied, religiously — pun intended.
They hire only the employees they need and fire those that don’t work out. They spend only the amount they can afford on marketing or rent or anything else.

SCN Churches have not consistently succeeded because they were never allowed to function as a business or as a non-profit. Churches became a Frankenstein-like creature that was part military, part religious order, part business and part MLM. Which equated to being totally confused. There would have been no winning strategy or formula for success unless and until SCN sorted out what the hell it was actually trying to be!

Every Org or Mission that had moments of success was created by one or two people applying business principles, and running THAT organization based on what was needed for it to survive – which meant saying NO to management, From my position at World Wide, I watched finely choreographed virtuoso performances last 6-18 months only to come crashing down, when “Management” had enough of being ignored and made to feel redundant (which they were) and managed that Org back to insolvency.

Admin Tech + sane business practices + delivery of excellent Tech + astute marketing = the potential for long term successful Churches. Then again, remove Admin Tech from the above formula and you have the same potential results.

In my opinion, Admin Tech didn’t fail because it couldn’t do it all, it failed because of the apparent arrogance of its creator and those that used it, in believing that no other technology or principles were needed. A very fatal flaw.

Right! And god forbid he consults someone with a few thousand hours of auditing under their belt. They might drill him realistically or offer a great reference! Horrible!

Perfect!

Does this mean that Miss Cabbage can finally be trained (not not hit the P.C. while in session)?

and of course you found some comment LRH made to invalidate the point I was trying to make.

I expect the Tech does not work on you so you are left to simply complain and spit bile.
Good luck with that Dear.

Oh and actually there is no hope other than Scientology, thats why its such a crime COB is commiting making it squirrel and too expensive.

But its far more productive for mankind to whinge and complain about LRH all the time. After all there is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Much other workable Tech in the field. I know I see the results every day.

Thanks to all the indies and exes for this long discussion thread on what I see is actually the heart of Scientology. Aside from the more theatrical space opera and dodging of Venusian freight trains, the real core of Scientology looks like an endless, dreary, gray bureaucracy. An empire of busy work and acronyms, based on fear and avarice, serving a fiction. Anything colorful and imperfectly human seems to have died with Hubbard.

I’m an atheist and I love Franciscus.