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		By: pluvo		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501533</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2022 22:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501307&quot;&gt;Thomas J. Worthington&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;That was actually the event that really soured me against Mike.&quot;

All your various verbose explanations, complaints, accusations and all the fuss and that is the crux of the matter (which you couldn&#039;t handle with Mike directly to your satisfaction and are annoyed about)?!? Sad.

Thanks for helping! Btw., I did that too, and not only on one occasion when it was needed (monetary), albeit without any expectations and demands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501307">Thomas J. Worthington</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;That was actually the event that really soured me against Mike.&#8221;</p>
<p>All your various verbose explanations, complaints, accusations and all the fuss and that is the crux of the matter (which you couldn&#8217;t handle with Mike directly to your satisfaction and are annoyed about)?!? Sad.</p>
<p>Thanks for helping! Btw., I did that too, and not only on one occasion when it was needed (monetary), albeit without any expectations and demands.</p>
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		By: Thomas J. Worthington		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501308</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas J. Worthington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2022 22:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-500936&quot;&gt;Linda Olsen&lt;/a&gt;.

When you say, &quot; Thanks, TJW, for showing as much of yourself as I care to see or know about.&quot; I wonder if you can recognize this is the exact same language that committed members of this cult (like John Travolta and Tom Cruise) when they are asked if they ever read anything on the Internet which exposes the truth.

The language they use is almost identical to your language. They say, &quot;Why in the world would I ever want to read anything written by someone who is critical of my religion?&quot; No thank you. They don&#039;t want to know the truth because they are afraid of what they might find. 

Leaving the cult is not enough. People who just leave seem to substitute one cult for another. If you just look at all the remarks made to Mike, they just praise him for all the fine work he has done. But no one can say anything critical about Mike. If people consider him to be perfect and that he can never do anything wrong, that is a real big warning sign they have just substituted one cult leader for another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-500936">Linda Olsen</a>.</p>
<p>When you say, &#8221; Thanks, TJW, for showing as much of yourself as I care to see or know about.&#8221; I wonder if you can recognize this is the exact same language that committed members of this cult (like John Travolta and Tom Cruise) when they are asked if they ever read anything on the Internet which exposes the truth.</p>
<p>The language they use is almost identical to your language. They say, &#8220;Why in the world would I ever want to read anything written by someone who is critical of my religion?&#8221; No thank you. They don&#8217;t want to know the truth because they are afraid of what they might find. </p>
<p>Leaving the cult is not enough. People who just leave seem to substitute one cult for another. If you just look at all the remarks made to Mike, they just praise him for all the fine work he has done. But no one can say anything critical about Mike. If people consider him to be perfect and that he can never do anything wrong, that is a real big warning sign they have just substituted one cult leader for another.</p>
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		By: Thomas J. Worthington		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501307</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2022 22:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501306&quot;&gt;Thomas J. Worthington&lt;/a&gt;.

Finally, one poster chastized me saying that if I was really wanting to help I would have made some contributions to the Aftermath Foundation and to support the cult.

Many of you may not belive me. But I have sent more than $400 to the Aftermath Society and I sent $500 to support Shelly Ashbridge when her son was in that terrible car accident.

Some of you will accuse me of false bravado and bragging. But if I wanted to do that, I would have done it right after Shelly&#039;s son had that accident some six months ago.

That was actually the event that really soured me against Mike. After sending $500 to help Shelly&#039;s family, I asked Mike to do me a very tiny favor that would have taken him less than one minute. But he refused saying that he was too busy to help me with such a thing. It was then I realized that when he says he is eternally grateful to everyone who sends him money to support his work, that he is not being truthful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501306">Thomas J. Worthington</a>.</p>
<p>Finally, one poster chastized me saying that if I was really wanting to help I would have made some contributions to the Aftermath Foundation and to support the cult.</p>
<p>Many of you may not belive me. But I have sent more than $400 to the Aftermath Society and I sent $500 to support Shelly Ashbridge when her son was in that terrible car accident.</p>
<p>Some of you will accuse me of false bravado and bragging. But if I wanted to do that, I would have done it right after Shelly&#8217;s son had that accident some six months ago.</p>
<p>That was actually the event that really soured me against Mike. After sending $500 to help Shelly&#8217;s family, I asked Mike to do me a very tiny favor that would have taken him less than one minute. But he refused saying that he was too busy to help me with such a thing. It was then I realized that when he says he is eternally grateful to everyone who sends him money to support his work, that he is not being truthful.</p>
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		By: Thomas J. Worthington		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501306</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas J. Worthington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2022 22:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501039&quot;&gt;pluvo&lt;/a&gt;.

Consider the following excerpt from a post here by Linda Olsen:

&quot;Thanks, TJW, for showing as much of yourself as I care to see or know about.&quot;

Do you recognize this language? It is almost identical to people who are committed to the cult - like John Travolta and Kirstie Allen.

When asked if they have ever read any of the articles on the Internet exposing the horrors and abuses of this cult, they answer in words to the effect, &quot;Of course not! Why would I ever want to read anything written by someone who is critical of my religion?&quot;

I always marvel that people are willing to act like Ostriches and stick their heads in the sand so they do not have to consider the truth.

But here we have one poster who is saying the same thing. She says, &quot;Thanks, for showing as much of yourself as I care to see or know about.&quot;

Don&#039;t you see this is the same cult party line? People try to make fun of me because I said that many former members of this cult are still stuck in the same &quot;cult think&quot;. But can you not see that in action - right here in this blog?

I think this is terribly sad. People who leave the cult believe they are healed. But they still carry the same old cult think with them. More is needed to heal people then  just leaving the cult. It&#039;s a good first step. But if that&#039;s all people do, they will still think and act the same way. It&#039;s not enough to just substitute one cult leader for another.

In any case, I have nothing more to say about this subject. I&#039;m sure that many of you will be happy to know I am &quot;over and out&quot; on this topic. I just wish you would take a closer look at yourself and see if there is any truth to the fact that even though you may have left this cult, you are still acting and thinking in the same way. 

I sincerely wish you all the best of luck in cutting the strings that keep you tied down in the bubble.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501039">pluvo</a>.</p>
<p>Consider the following excerpt from a post here by Linda Olsen:</p>
<p>&#8220;Thanks, TJW, for showing as much of yourself as I care to see or know about.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you recognize this language? It is almost identical to people who are committed to the cult &#8211; like John Travolta and Kirstie Allen.</p>
<p>When asked if they have ever read any of the articles on the Internet exposing the horrors and abuses of this cult, they answer in words to the effect, &#8220;Of course not! Why would I ever want to read anything written by someone who is critical of my religion?&#8221;</p>
<p>I always marvel that people are willing to act like Ostriches and stick their heads in the sand so they do not have to consider the truth.</p>
<p>But here we have one poster who is saying the same thing. She says, &#8220;Thanks, for showing as much of yourself as I care to see or know about.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you see this is the same cult party line? People try to make fun of me because I said that many former members of this cult are still stuck in the same &#8220;cult think&#8221;. But can you not see that in action &#8211; right here in this blog?</p>
<p>I think this is terribly sad. People who leave the cult believe they are healed. But they still carry the same old cult think with them. More is needed to heal people then  just leaving the cult. It&#8217;s a good first step. But if that&#8217;s all people do, they will still think and act the same way. It&#8217;s not enough to just substitute one cult leader for another.</p>
<p>In any case, I have nothing more to say about this subject. I&#8217;m sure that many of you will be happy to know I am &#8220;over and out&#8221; on this topic. I just wish you would take a closer look at yourself and see if there is any truth to the fact that even though you may have left this cult, you are still acting and thinking in the same way. </p>
<p>I sincerely wish you all the best of luck in cutting the strings that keep you tied down in the bubble.</p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501211</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2022 02:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501023&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Mic drop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501023">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Mic drop.</p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501209</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2022 02:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You never waste your words, Mike. So succinct and informative. Your accent doesn’t hurt either. So pleasant to hear. Thank you for your courage. As a cult survivor, I count on your example.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You never waste your words, Mike. So succinct and informative. Your accent doesn’t hurt either. So pleasant to hear. Thank you for your courage. As a cult survivor, I count on your example.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501203</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2022 00:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-500924&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I’m sure you had enough of checking yourself during your decades in the organization. The contrast between your tight winding at that time and your ease today is striking. Your natural truthfulness comes through. I probably don’t need to tell you this but don’t change a thing. With you, the message is the medium.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-500924">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I’m sure you had enough of checking yourself during your decades in the organization. The contrast between your tight winding at that time and your ease today is striking. Your natural truthfulness comes through. I probably don’t need to tell you this but don’t change a thing. With you, the message is the medium.</p>
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		By: Ludo Vermeulen		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ludo Vermeulen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 23:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great interview, Mike. Leaves little doubt about the mindset and intentions of Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great interview, Mike. Leaves little doubt about the mindset and intentions of Scientology.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501108</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 03:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501107&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

And not that anyone cares particularly but just to acknowledge that my editing time ran out and I misspelled &quot;dilettante&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501107">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>And not that anyone cares particularly but just to acknowledge that my editing time ran out and I misspelled &#8220;dilettante&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-501107</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2022 03:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-500936&quot;&gt;Linda Olsen&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s a good point you made about Tommy Davis, Linda.  

If rank and file Sea Org members pulled the stunts that TD pulled they would be utter and complete toast.  They&#039;d be lifers in RPF&#039;s RPF or whatever passes for The Hole nowadays in Miscavige&#039;s cult.  Or they&#039;d shipped off to God knows where and never heard from again. 

 But wait, whoa this is Tommy Davis, after all - Anne Archer&#039;s little boy and loaded with dough and important wealthy connections via his birth father soooo...wouldn&#039;t wanna make Big Momma angry or cut off the flow of dough from Davis Senior. 

 Davis Junior was a diletante and incompetent, made huge mistakes and blew, but never mind, that&#039;s OK, he&#039;s no Degraded Being as would be any other Sea Org member who screwed up royally and blew.  Oh no, little Tommy did not &quot;betray his group&quot;. 

 Its sickening, the injustice of his preferential treatment.  One would think Anne Archer and her husband Terry Jastrow would be embarrassed - deeply embarrassed.

But I digress; end of rant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/court-tv/#comment-500936">Linda Olsen</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good point you made about Tommy Davis, Linda.  </p>
<p>If rank and file Sea Org members pulled the stunts that TD pulled they would be utter and complete toast.  They&#8217;d be lifers in RPF&#8217;s RPF or whatever passes for The Hole nowadays in Miscavige&#8217;s cult.  Or they&#8217;d shipped off to God knows where and never heard from again. </p>
<p> But wait, whoa this is Tommy Davis, after all &#8211; Anne Archer&#8217;s little boy and loaded with dough and important wealthy connections via his birth father soooo&#8230;wouldn&#8217;t wanna make Big Momma angry or cut off the flow of dough from Davis Senior. </p>
<p> Davis Junior was a diletante and incompetent, made huge mistakes and blew, but never mind, that&#8217;s OK, he&#8217;s no Degraded Being as would be any other Sea Org member who screwed up royally and blew.  Oh no, little Tommy did not &#8220;betray his group&#8221;. </p>
<p> Its sickening, the injustice of his preferential treatment.  One would think Anne Archer and her husband Terry Jastrow would be embarrassed &#8211; deeply embarrassed.</p>
<p>But I digress; end of rant.</p>
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