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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485334</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[The apologist academics who do get let into the doors of Scientology facilities, at least can be called later by the FBI and interviewed (Melton privately told me he saw some strange things, even when Heber chaperoned Melton.   And I wrote and asked Melton to check up on Heber when in the mid 2000s Heber was in the Hole, and Melton did, and was told Scientology&#039;s club footed PR bad excuses about Heber  being on sabbatical.) 

It&#039;s maybe 95 percent to say the apologist academics were all bad.   I chose to contact them, I did, I learned they were extremely smart, to get through college which they all did, and reading their papers and what they do, one side job they do do, is they get into the presence of groups that critics cannot get into those doors of those groups.  

That is one upside to them.   

They can report to FBI when asked by the FBI.   

Scientology has hoodwinked a lot of followers sufficiently money wise to keep up Scientology&#039;s appearances of survival, for now.

The less bureaucratic , lesser totalitarian, more  nuttier new religions are way down the success chart compared to Scientology, even as dismal horrible controversial abusive that Scientology factually is.

I think some apologist academics need to be let in Scientology&#039;s doors, at least to report back to the FBI on Scientology.

I thought OSA fell for the apologist academics and were letting them in, and really it was slightly a security risk to let the academics into any Scientology facilities, no matter how orchestrated the touring was.

Mike,

Have you read James Lewis&#039; paper here:

It ties body-thetans to Xenu to OT 3, to Revolt In The Stars.  (And that is the ultimate tieing Hubbard&#039;s serious Scientology to Hubbard&#039;s fiction, with XENU the crossover word.)

That&#039;s a huge connecting of the dots, done by one of the most hated apologist academics.

https://www.academia.edu/20413215/Technological_Exorcism_Body_Thetans_and_Scientology_s_Secret_Mythology


That&#039;s kind of what I&#039;d hoped the apologist academics would rise up to doing, at least looking deeper into things directly by Hubbard, Hubbard&#039;s writings on key things like Xenu and body-thetans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The apologist academics who do get let into the doors of Scientology facilities, at least can be called later by the FBI and interviewed (Melton privately told me he saw some strange things, even when Heber chaperoned Melton.   And I wrote and asked Melton to check up on Heber when in the mid 2000s Heber was in the Hole, and Melton did, and was told Scientology&#8217;s club footed PR bad excuses about Heber  being on sabbatical.) </p>
<p>It&#8217;s maybe 95 percent to say the apologist academics were all bad.   I chose to contact them, I did, I learned they were extremely smart, to get through college which they all did, and reading their papers and what they do, one side job they do do, is they get into the presence of groups that critics cannot get into those doors of those groups.  </p>
<p>That is one upside to them.   </p>
<p>They can report to FBI when asked by the FBI.   </p>
<p>Scientology has hoodwinked a lot of followers sufficiently money wise to keep up Scientology&#8217;s appearances of survival, for now.</p>
<p>The less bureaucratic , lesser totalitarian, more  nuttier new religions are way down the success chart compared to Scientology, even as dismal horrible controversial abusive that Scientology factually is.</p>
<p>I think some apologist academics need to be let in Scientology&#8217;s doors, at least to report back to the FBI on Scientology.</p>
<p>I thought OSA fell for the apologist academics and were letting them in, and really it was slightly a security risk to let the academics into any Scientology facilities, no matter how orchestrated the touring was.</p>
<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Have you read James Lewis&#8217; paper here:</p>
<p>It ties body-thetans to Xenu to OT 3, to Revolt In The Stars.  (And that is the ultimate tieing Hubbard&#8217;s serious Scientology to Hubbard&#8217;s fiction, with XENU the crossover word.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a huge connecting of the dots, done by one of the most hated apologist academics.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.academia.edu/20413215/Technological_Exorcism_Body_Thetans_and_Scientology_s_Secret_Mythology" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.academia.edu/20413215/Technological_Exorcism_Body_Thetans_and_Scientology_s_Secret_Mythology</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s kind of what I&#8217;d hoped the apologist academics would rise up to doing, at least looking deeper into things directly by Hubbard, Hubbard&#8217;s writings on key things like Xenu and body-thetans.</p>
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		By: Dwarf Vader		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485329</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2022 01:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485230&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

The 70s was the peak of the wave of NRMs and the anti-cult movement. Most of the &quot;NRMs&quot; from that time have largely adapted and evolved, but Scientology hasn&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485230">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>The 70s was the peak of the wave of NRMs and the anti-cult movement. Most of the &#8220;NRMs&#8221; from that time have largely adapted and evolved, but Scientology hasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: Mark Kamran		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485327</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2022 01:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485290&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Just Google CESNUR and its there.

Google is on top of the hit list of Cult industry followed by YouTube,  Facebook , WordPress and Amazon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485290">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Just Google CESNUR and its there.</p>
<p>Google is on top of the hit list of Cult industry followed by YouTube,  Facebook , WordPress and Amazon.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485290</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2022 18:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485249&quot;&gt;Mark Kamran&lt;/a&gt;.

Hah! You located the event schedule. Thanks for the info.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485249">Mark Kamran</a>.</p>
<p>Hah! You located the event schedule. Thanks for the info.</p>
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		By: Rosemarie		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485274</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2022 12:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just another conference that is about as legitimate as fake news. Lol this crap would only work on teenagers being recruited who are gullible enough to think that stuff is legit.  But thankfully the internet has lots of exes and Mikes podcast and the Aftermath to hopefully combat that effect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another conference that is about as legitimate as fake news. Lol this crap would only work on teenagers being recruited who are gullible enough to think that stuff is legit.  But thankfully the internet has lots of exes and Mikes podcast and the Aftermath to hopefully combat that effect.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485269</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2022 11:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485223&quot;&gt;Angry Gay Pope&lt;/a&gt;.

The Angry Gay Pope marching around in front of the event wearing his Pope hat and robe might get some media attention.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485223">Angry Gay Pope</a>.</p>
<p>The Angry Gay Pope marching around in front of the event wearing his Pope hat and robe might get some media attention.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485266</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2022 11:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485223&quot;&gt;Angry Gay Pope&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s a three day conference June 16-18 so they&#039;ll have plenty of time to discuss previous and additional New Religious Movements. I wonder what&#039;s on the list. I&#039;m done with scientology and looking for something new. Maybe you can show up with your Pope Hat on and get a schedule for us.
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joke]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485223">Angry Gay Pope</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a three day conference June 16-18 so they&#8217;ll have plenty of time to discuss previous and additional New Religious Movements. I wonder what&#8217;s on the list. I&#8217;m done with scientology and looking for something new. Maybe you can show up with your Pope Hat on and get a schedule for us.<br />
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		By: Mark Kamran		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2022 06:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485213&quot;&gt;Linear13&lt;/a&gt;.

I cannot stop myself to check the details on their website.
It&#039;s  just an desperate attempt to gain publicity.

First this conference is not like any grand event where they  cover different Cults mostly it cover Korean and US.

Second, you may see same people presenting papers for one  Cult then in other sessions advocating others , seems like they are employed for the event.

Third , when I checked a presenter , mentioned as scholar from a Canadian University,  I only found the  name on a website , Researchgate.net ,with no credentials like research work, faculty info or qulification.

Fourth, most of the presenters like two  Canadian professor shall discuss article written almost  5 to 10  years back.  Nothing specific for  the conference. 

Fifth , except two session ,the First and one in French , all the other  sessions are in group settings.
Participants shall scatter in different groups after picking the topic of their choice.

So, many Cults  might not have any audience , though their name shall appears on conference brochures as actively participated 

Inshort , rather then choosing any metropolitan city or prominent universtiy , they prefer a small city and unknown university for a well structured publicity stunt .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485213">Linear13</a>.</p>
<p>I cannot stop myself to check the details on their website.<br />
It&#8217;s  just an desperate attempt to gain publicity.</p>
<p>First this conference is not like any grand event where they  cover different Cults mostly it cover Korean and US.</p>
<p>Second, you may see same people presenting papers for one  Cult then in other sessions advocating others , seems like they are employed for the event.</p>
<p>Third , when I checked a presenter , mentioned as scholar from a Canadian University,  I only found the  name on a website , Researchgate.net ,with no credentials like research work, faculty info or qulification.</p>
<p>Fourth, most of the presenters like two  Canadian professor shall discuss article written almost  5 to 10  years back.  Nothing specific for  the conference. </p>
<p>Fifth , except two session ,the First and one in French , all the other  sessions are in group settings.<br />
Participants shall scatter in different groups after picking the topic of their choice.</p>
<p>So, many Cults  might not have any audience , though their name shall appears on conference brochures as actively participated </p>
<p>Inshort , rather then choosing any metropolitan city or prominent universtiy , they prefer a small city and unknown university for a well structured publicity stunt .</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485230</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2022 01:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485188&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Just today Tony Ortega posted a video of Chris Shelton interviewing a woman who recently exited the Sea Org after 27 years of being in. I watched a few parts and by chance on one part she mentioned that even in the Sea Org they don&#039;t call scn their religion or Church in conversation amongst themselves and just refer to the &quot;Org&quot; where they participate. Obviously statements made for public consumption would include church and religion.

I&#039;ve questioned just how churchy current public scnists are. They often mention church and religion but maybe that&#039;s the same as the Sea Org when making public statements. When I was in in the 1970&#039;s you would be looked at as rather odd if you called scn your religion. &quot;What&#039;s up with that??&quot; Haha]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485188">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Just today Tony Ortega posted a video of Chris Shelton interviewing a woman who recently exited the Sea Org after 27 years of being in. I watched a few parts and by chance on one part she mentioned that even in the Sea Org they don&#8217;t call scn their religion or Church in conversation amongst themselves and just refer to the &#8220;Org&#8221; where they participate. Obviously statements made for public consumption would include church and religion.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve questioned just how churchy current public scnists are. They often mention church and religion but maybe that&#8217;s the same as the Sea Org when making public statements. When I was in in the 1970&#8217;s you would be looked at as rather odd if you called scn your religion. &#8220;What&#8217;s up with that??&#8221; Haha</p>
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		By: GL		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485228</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2022 01:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485209&quot;&gt;Todd Cray&lt;/a&gt;.

Massimo has as much credibility of being an academic as Diminutive Monstrosity does at being a genius.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-apologists-conference/#comment-485209">Todd Cray</a>.</p>
<p>Massimo has as much credibility of being an academic as Diminutive Monstrosity does at being a genius.</p>
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