Satan arrives in many forms . DM is one.

Only an idiot would not know !

So true … you nailed it ! I had a sociology Professor and every day he would come in and start the class with” the masses are asses”.Will you be the one that stands apart and does not follow the herd of meek sheep? When will people see that this is not about God or spirituality but a huge fat checkbook? All of these leaders and evangelists have a net worth that is obscene.

Old School, (why not reveal your identity?) this is the last I will comm on the subject with you. You got sarcastic and snarky (Ad Hom yourself). Then you attacked and invalidated me and my comm by making sweeping generalities that Scn is dead and gone and no way in hell is it ever going to continue to exist, and implied heavily what a fool I was to think otherwise.

There was no fact to that opinion at all, yet you now come to me and say that you were only spreading facts. Not. I responded that the corporate church may be either dead or dying, but the philosophy is alive on the outside and that successful auditing and training is going on on a daily basis to wins and betterment of people.

Says you. I’m still waiting for you to reveal your real name.

“That needed to be said to Old School and Alanzo.

They should find a different blog to post on because they won’t get converts here. ”

Cindy, telling people to stop communicating facts (NONE of which you could refute) is a tactic used by David Miss Cabbage. Why? Because he ALSO cannot refute the truth. So, his and your reaction is to try and stop comm & thought.

Interesting indeed!.

Cindy wrote:

“They should find a different blog to post on because they won’t get converts here. And that doesn’t mean we have our eyes closed and are being deluded. My eyes are wide open. And that includes spotting both of them. ESMB is a blog they should go to and leave here and let us get on with it.”

Mike can certainly speak for himself, but It is my understand that Mike wants to have a wide range of viewpoints regarding Scientology on his blog.

Some Indies believe that Scientology would be just fine if it weren’t for David Miscavige. They believe that the only thing wrong with Scientology is David Miscavige’s influence on it, and if his influence could just be deleted then Scientology would have no problems at all.

Is this your viewpoint, Cindy?

I believe that the problems go deeper in Scientology than that, and I believe that Mike himself has been “spotting Source”, and documenting right here on this blog that the roots of some of the abuses in Scientology go directly to the writings and taped lectures of L Ron Hubbard himself.

I would go further than that and say that if it were not ordered by LRH himself, it would not be an abuse which showed up in Scientology and stayed there. I would say that all systemic abuse in Scientology exists because L Ron Hubbard created that abuse himself in his writings and taped lectures which Scientologists study and follow to the letter. If L Ron Hubbard had not said it or written it, then it would not be a system-wide abuse in Scientology.

Do I understand you to say that you wish for this viewpoint to be forbidden from being stated on this blog, because this viewpoint is stopping you from being able to “get on with it”?

If you don’t mind, could I ask you two questions:

1. What are you “getting on with”, exactly?

2. How does the expression of my viewpoint on Mike’s blog stop you from “getting on with it”?

Alanzo