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		By: MUSTBUTCANT TECH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2016 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post Mike! A great example of MUST BUT CANT.

Maybe the primary reason most scientologists are unable to confront internal immoral, criminal, deceptive acts is due to the fact that Hubbard was regularly involved in all of the above! Once again, MUST BUT CANT. 
To be a successful scientologist requires regular self-deception. One wasn&#039;t allowed to confront lrh&#039;s &quot;out ethics&quot;. Those who did were swiftly disposed of without hesitation or sorrow. DM follows the playbook, and then some. 
It follows then that when a person attempts to expose a scientologist to factual data critical of lrh, dm, scientology, the unwillingness to evaluate that data remains consistent. The skill of willful ignorance is routinely practiced and eventually mastered by scientologists. A scientologist in turn then learns selective confront, thereby deluding themselves into the notion of confronting all evil. We confront psychiatry, therefore we confront all &quot;supression&quot;. 
In actual fact, the average person communicating the truth about scientologys frauds, crimes, abuses have greater ability to confront so-called suppression than members of the group who pretend to have a monopoly on the subject.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Mike! A great example of MUST BUT CANT.</p>
<p>Maybe the primary reason most scientologists are unable to confront internal immoral, criminal, deceptive acts is due to the fact that Hubbard was regularly involved in all of the above! Once again, MUST BUT CANT.<br />
To be a successful scientologist requires regular self-deception. One wasn&#8217;t allowed to confront lrh&#8217;s &#8220;out ethics&#8221;. Those who did were swiftly disposed of without hesitation or sorrow. DM follows the playbook, and then some.<br />
It follows then that when a person attempts to expose a scientologist to factual data critical of lrh, dm, scientology, the unwillingness to evaluate that data remains consistent. The skill of willful ignorance is routinely practiced and eventually mastered by scientologists. A scientologist in turn then learns selective confront, thereby deluding themselves into the notion of confronting all evil. We confront psychiatry, therefore we confront all &#8220;supression&#8221;.<br />
In actual fact, the average person communicating the truth about scientologys frauds, crimes, abuses have greater ability to confront so-called suppression than members of the group who pretend to have a monopoly on the subject.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2016 12:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144727&quot;&gt;Dead men tell no tales Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

Isn&#039;t The Cult just absolutely adorable?!Miss Ann says with a wink and a finger.Thank you for sharing that tidbit and I can immediately picture the stare-glare Tone 40 + that went along with the commandment that SOers have no friends when they leave.If that line were not so true it would make a great comedy routine,but I am not ready to laugh yet at the lecture you were given.The reason?I am sure the cult still pulls this junk to this very day.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144727">Dead men tell no tales Bill Straass</a>.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t The Cult just absolutely adorable?!Miss Ann says with a wink and a finger.Thank you for sharing that tidbit and I can immediately picture the stare-glare Tone 40 + that went along with the commandment that SOers have no friends when they leave.If that line were not so true it would make a great comedy routine,but I am not ready to laugh yet at the lecture you were given.The reason?I am sure the cult still pulls this junk to this very day.❤️❤️</p>
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		By: Dead men tell no tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2016 06:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144540&quot;&gt;Ann B Watson&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Ann,

Regarding your leaving your friends behind in the SO, I was informed by thr WUS Security Clearance I/ C OSA that. 
&quot; EX SEA ORG MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE FRIENDS&quot;. I was in good standing when I was told this. IT WAS A BLANKET STATMENT THAT NOONE WHO USED TO BE IN THE SO HAD ANY FRIENDS ANYWHERE. I was shocked to hear such a thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144540">Ann B Watson</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Ann,</p>
<p>Regarding your leaving your friends behind in the SO, I was informed by thr WUS Security Clearance I/ C OSA that.<br />
&#8221; EX SEA ORG MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE FRIENDS&#8221;. I was in good standing when I was told this. IT WAS A BLANKET STATMENT THAT NOONE WHO USED TO BE IN THE SO HAD ANY FRIENDS ANYWHERE. I was shocked to hear such a thing.</p>
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		By: FG		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2016 19:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144418&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

It was a &quot;10 august 73&quot;. The item popped up to the question Who was it? A name unknown in this lifetime. I just spitted it. The auditor indicate it. I felt like little piquing all over my body, like being release of incredible weight. The auditor simply said &quot;Your needle is floating&quot; and ended the session.
It was in St Hill England. When I went outside, the sky was like huge... Like LRH says somewhere, a blanket was taken off me. The world was mine. I was in love of a woman but couldn&#039;t reach her. She called me and all started... 
What I have observed an all flows is that tech correctly applied is making miracle. But tech compromised generates illness and misery.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144418">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>It was a &#8220;10 august 73&#8221;. The item popped up to the question Who was it? A name unknown in this lifetime. I just spitted it. The auditor indicate it. I felt like little piquing all over my body, like being release of incredible weight. The auditor simply said &#8220;Your needle is floating&#8221; and ended the session.<br />
It was in St Hill England. When I went outside, the sky was like huge&#8230; Like LRH says somewhere, a blanket was taken off me. The world was mine. I was in love of a woman but couldn&#8217;t reach her. She called me and all started&#8230;<br />
What I have observed an all flows is that tech correctly applied is making miracle. But tech compromised generates illness and misery.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144540</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144518&quot;&gt;DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (Bill Straass)&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Bill,You are just as strong as I because you are here and you are so powerful telling your story.I left behind some very very dear friends in the SO,but my life was on the line.I totally emphasize with your getting AIDS,in that I fight two cancers brought on by many combinations of SO living.No sleep,bad food meaning spoiled and then fun and games with GO Intelligence.No Bill you and yours join my heroes list.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144518">DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (Bill Straass)</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Bill,You are just as strong as I because you are here and you are so powerful telling your story.I left behind some very very dear friends in the SO,but my life was on the line.I totally emphasize with your getting AIDS,in that I fight two cancers brought on by many combinations of SO living.No sleep,bad food meaning spoiled and then fun and games with GO Intelligence.No Bill you and yours join my heroes list.❤️❤️</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144360&quot;&gt;Bruce Ploetz&lt;/a&gt;.

To say that all failures and sickness is from an SP is the very definition of victim mentality.
It is the philosophy of no responsibility. 

Can being around an asshole make life difficult? Absolutely!

But to blame all mistakes, accidents and sickness on others is evidence of an underdeveloped intelligence. Someone who does not have self knowledge. Someone who has a victim mentality. 

The 3rd party &quot;law&quot; is yet more evidence of a no responsibility philosophy. 

So yes Bruce, that was also BS. It was Ron&#039;s lack of self knowledge. It was his granting magical powers to real or imagined enemies. 

Blaming others for our experience is disempowering. Blaming others for our experience is the essence of moral weakness; the polar opposite of being at cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144360">Bruce Ploetz</a>.</p>
<p>To say that all failures and sickness is from an SP is the very definition of victim mentality.<br />
It is the philosophy of no responsibility. </p>
<p>Can being around an asshole make life difficult? Absolutely!</p>
<p>But to blame all mistakes, accidents and sickness on others is evidence of an underdeveloped intelligence. Someone who does not have self knowledge. Someone who has a victim mentality. </p>
<p>The 3rd party &#8220;law&#8221; is yet more evidence of a no responsibility philosophy. </p>
<p>So yes Bruce, that was also BS. It was Ron&#8217;s lack of self knowledge. It was his granting magical powers to real or imagined enemies. </p>
<p>Blaming others for our experience is disempowering. Blaming others for our experience is the essence of moral weakness; the polar opposite of being at cause.</p>
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		By: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (Bill Straass)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2016 06:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144498&quot;&gt;Ann B Watson&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Ann Thank you for your comment. Yes, it was horrific. After it happened I wrote a letter to ED INT and also a KR to RTC REPORTS OFFICER,  not realizing that RTC is mostly the one responsible for this outness. I never received a reply from either one though Guilliame Leserve may have been in the hole by then. I used to drive past the Int Base in Hemet to see if anyone needed a ride. I never saw anyone. The place might as well been a cemetary and perhaps it was. I knew several hundred staff in the SO and  I feel a little bad about being free knowing that they are still stuck there.You are obviously stronger than I was because you managed to blow. I would have stayed and died there had I not been liberated by AIDS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144498">Ann B Watson</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Ann Thank you for your comment. Yes, it was horrific. After it happened I wrote a letter to ED INT and also a KR to RTC REPORTS OFFICER,  not realizing that RTC is mostly the one responsible for this outness. I never received a reply from either one though Guilliame Leserve may have been in the hole by then. I used to drive past the Int Base in Hemet to see if anyone needed a ride. I never saw anyone. The place might as well been a cemetary and perhaps it was. I knew several hundred staff in the SO and  I feel a little bad about being free knowing that they are still stuck there.You are obviously stronger than I was because you managed to blow. I would have stayed and died there had I not been liberated by AIDS.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144492&quot;&gt;DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (Bill Straass)&lt;/a&gt;.

Bill, you have been through more blood sweat and tears than you both should have had to endure.Thank you from my heart for telling your story.To me you forge another gigantic link in this chain of all of us XSO X staff X public all of us are blasting light at the difference between what the cult says and what it does.By sharing yout horrific treatment with us,when I tell details of my treatment in SO prior to my blowing in 78,your powerful experience adds great weight to all our stories.Iwish you light,love and peace.As to getting Ethics In I&#039;ve got a list somewhere of those who need a good re-tread of what they did to others regarding that area.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2764.png" alt="❤" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144492">DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (Bill Straass)</a>.</p>
<p>Bill, you have been through more blood sweat and tears than you both should have had to endure.Thank you from my heart for telling your story.To me you forge another gigantic link in this chain of all of us XSO X staff X public all of us are blasting light at the difference between what the cult says and what it does.By sharing yout horrific treatment with us,when I tell details of my treatment in SO prior to my blowing in 78,your powerful experience adds great weight to all our stories.Iwish you light,love and peace.As to getting Ethics In I&#8217;ve got a list somewhere of those who need a good re-tread of what they did to others regarding that area.❤️</p>
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		By: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES (Bill Straass)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144491&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Cindy. Yes, it is the same person. His wife&#039;s name is Kifumi if I remember correctly, which I probably do.]]></description>
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<p>Thank you Cindy. Yes, it is the same person. His wife&#8217;s name is Kifumi if I remember correctly, which I probably do.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144416&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your good ack. YES, I have a lot to say.  This is only about a tenth of it. I spent over half of my life inthe SO I personally repaired every single piece of equipment in the Freewinds engine room. It was bad enough getting AIDS, but it was far worse having my wife held prisone0r and not knowing if I would ever see her again.  THEY FULLY INTENDED TO HOLD HER AGAINST HER WILL UNTIL I WAS DEAD, hoping that after I was dead she would change her mind about wanting to leave. They were not even going to allow her off to go to my funeral. They obstructed attempts with IJCs office to find out what was going on. Someday I would like to go back to see them freak out when they see me alive, just as my last auditor did when she saw me at AOLA  a few years later.  I do not want revenge. I would like justice but I think that there is fat chance of that. The odds of my surviving were hundreds to one against.
     IN HINDSIGHT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS I WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY:
     I should have called my wife&#039;s father He is the highest ranking black officer in the United States Coast Guard. HE WOULD HAVE PICKED UP A PHONE AND A US COAST GUARD CUTTER WOULD HAVE BOARDED THE FREEWINDS AND GOTTEN MY WIFE.  I could have called the media. IT IS A VIOLATION OF STATE AND FEDERAL LAW. TO DISMISS ANYONE FROM EMPLOYMENT DUE TO HIV/AIDS.  THEY COULD HAVE LOST THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS. 
    So why did I not do it?  Was I worried about being declared?
     IN ALL MY YEARS ON STAFF, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A DECLARE ORDER ON A DEAD MAN. I HAVE SEEN MANY DEAD PEOPLE GIVEN LOAS AND TOLD TO REPORT BACK FOR DUTY.  
     It wasn&#039;t all about me.  My wife was being abused and others are    likely being abused.
     I WILL END THIS RANT WITH THE SAME WORDS AS ARE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE.
     SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT. THANK YOU MR RINDER FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO BRING THESE OUTNESS (OR MORE ACCURATELY CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY) TO LIGHT 
I SIGNED A BILLION YEAR CONTRACT TO CLEAR THE PLANET. BUT ONE HAS TO GET IN ETHICS BEFORE ONE CAN GET IN TECH. I WOULD BE PROUD TO SPEND WHAT IS LEFT OF THIS LIFE GETTING IN ETHICS ON THE CHURCH. I FEEL THAT I OWE LRH THAT MUCH.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-sps/#comment-144416">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your good ack. YES, I have a lot to say.  This is only about a tenth of it. I spent over half of my life inthe SO I personally repaired every single piece of equipment in the Freewinds engine room. It was bad enough getting AIDS, but it was far worse having my wife held prisone0r and not knowing if I would ever see her again.  THEY FULLY INTENDED TO HOLD HER AGAINST HER WILL UNTIL I WAS DEAD, hoping that after I was dead she would change her mind about wanting to leave. They were not even going to allow her off to go to my funeral. They obstructed attempts with IJCs office to find out what was going on. Someday I would like to go back to see them freak out when they see me alive, just as my last auditor did when she saw me at AOLA  a few years later.  I do not want revenge. I would like justice but I think that there is fat chance of that. The odds of my surviving were hundreds to one against.<br />
     IN HINDSIGHT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS I WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY:<br />
     I should have called my wife&#8217;s father He is the highest ranking black officer in the United States Coast Guard. HE WOULD HAVE PICKED UP A PHONE AND A US COAST GUARD CUTTER WOULD HAVE BOARDED THE FREEWINDS AND GOTTEN MY WIFE.  I could have called the media. IT IS A VIOLATION OF STATE AND FEDERAL LAW. TO DISMISS ANYONE FROM EMPLOYMENT DUE TO HIV/AIDS.  THEY COULD HAVE LOST THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS.<br />
    So why did I not do it?  Was I worried about being declared?<br />
     IN ALL MY YEARS ON STAFF, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A DECLARE ORDER ON A DEAD MAN. I HAVE SEEN MANY DEAD PEOPLE GIVEN LOAS AND TOLD TO REPORT BACK FOR DUTY.<br />
     It wasn&#8217;t all about me.  My wife was being abused and others are    likely being abused.<br />
     I WILL END THIS RANT WITH THE SAME WORDS AS ARE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE.<br />
     SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT. THANK YOU MR RINDER FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO BRING THESE OUTNESS (OR MORE ACCURATELY CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY) TO LIGHT<br />
I SIGNED A BILLION YEAR CONTRACT TO CLEAR THE PLANET. BUT ONE HAS TO GET IN ETHICS BEFORE ONE CAN GET IN TECH. I WOULD BE PROUD TO SPEND WHAT IS LEFT OF THIS LIFE GETTING IN ETHICS ON THE CHURCH. I FEEL THAT I OWE LRH THAT MUCH.</p>
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