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		By: Africanus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161785&quot;&gt;Marc Headley&lt;/a&gt;.

What do you know about Portland center. They have a giant ass building right downtown. It&#039;s got to be 10 million in property. Going to check it out on my day off. Get some free auditing, talk some LRH. Dude so fucking stoked. Haha. Btw. Marc. Your book was awesome. And that James bond escape! Rad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161785">Marc Headley</a>.</p>
<p>What do you know about Portland center. They have a giant ass building right downtown. It&#8217;s got to be 10 million in property. Going to check it out on my day off. Get some free auditing, talk some LRH. Dude so fucking stoked. Haha. Btw. Marc. Your book was awesome. And that James bond escape! Rad.</p>
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		By: Africanus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just moved to Portland Oregon, where it was brought to my attention they have a center here. Not sure what kind. I am going on there ASAP. We never had these back in Michigan. I am so stoked, can&#039;t wait. Keep you posted on the outcome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just moved to Portland Oregon, where it was brought to my attention they have a center here. Not sure what kind. I am going on there ASAP. We never had these back in Michigan. I am so stoked, can&#8217;t wait. Keep you posted on the outcome.</p>
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		By: T.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2017 04:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161785&quot;&gt;Marc Headley&lt;/a&gt;.

I just watched the whole interview, it was really good. I&#039;m glad you are doing well and are still speaking out. Were you guys in a van outside the Scientology building? And one thing was bizarre... who was that man about halfway through that came up to you guys with a recording device (or what was that)?]]></description>
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<p>I just watched the whole interview, it was really good. I&#8217;m glad you are doing well and are still speaking out. Were you guys in a van outside the Scientology building? And one thing was bizarre&#8230; who was that man about halfway through that came up to you guys with a recording device (or what was that)?</p>
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		By: alcoboyy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2017 21:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161579&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

I wanna go to Teegeeack!
Oh, wait. It&#039;s right here.]]></description>
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<p>I wanna go to Teegeeack!<br />
Oh, wait. It&#8217;s right here.</p>
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		By: alcoboyy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161683&quot;&gt;WhatWall&lt;/a&gt;.

Now there&#039;s a question someone should ask John Travolta!  Him being a mission holder and all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161683">WhatWall</a>.</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s a question someone should ask John Travolta!  Him being a mission holder and all.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 13:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161616&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, David Heartless.  I remember going on a mission one time and he docked my pay for not doing OFO while off base. I had to get Janet Light to ring his bell for being robotic. But one could NOT fault him for his constant vigilance in getting people to their OFO duty and training them for it.

It WAS a fascinating experience as you DID get to see what REALLY went on in the orgs.  I must have dealt with some crappy Pgms Chiefs.  They wouldn&#039;t budge to get even REALLY basic stuff done in the orgs I monitored like call-in of fully paid public to get production moving.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161616">chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, David Heartless.  I remember going on a mission one time and he docked my pay for not doing OFO while off base. I had to get Janet Light to ring his bell for being robotic. But one could NOT fault him for his constant vigilance in getting people to their OFO duty and training them for it.</p>
<p>It WAS a fascinating experience as you DID get to see what REALLY went on in the orgs.  I must have dealt with some crappy Pgms Chiefs.  They wouldn&#8217;t budge to get even REALLY basic stuff done in the orgs I monitored like call-in of fully paid public to get production moving.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 13:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161825&quot;&gt;bo&lt;/a&gt;.

Not a chance in hell bo.  At it largest (decades ago) Denver Org didn&#039;t bring in $50K/month.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161825">bo</a>.</p>
<p>Not a chance in hell bo.  At it largest (decades ago) Denver Org didn&#8217;t bring in $50K/month.</p>
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		By: bo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 04:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161610&quot;&gt;John P. Capitalist&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you really think they are bringing in $50,000 a month?  I can&#039;t imagine that unless there are some whales in the Denver region.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161610">John P. Capitalist</a>.</p>
<p>Do you really think they are bringing in $50,000 a month?  I can&#8217;t imagine that unless there are some whales in the Denver region.</p>
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		By: bo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 04:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161577&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Denver had a booming mission in the early 70s.  When the Denver org came in, that was the beginning of the end.  If I recall, the org stats never came close to the mission&#039;s, which was dissolved around 1976.  My first comment on this blog, or any blog, was after I saw a completions list for the Denver ideal org.  I was shocked to see the names of people I had known back in the mission.  These were all lovely people and it makes me so sad that they are still tilting at the windmills.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161577">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Denver had a booming mission in the early 70s.  When the Denver org came in, that was the beginning of the end.  If I recall, the org stats never came close to the mission&#8217;s, which was dissolved around 1976.  My first comment on this blog, or any blog, was after I saw a completions list for the Denver ideal org.  I was shocked to see the names of people I had known back in the mission.  These were all lovely people and it makes me so sad that they are still tilting at the windmills.</p>
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		By: bo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 03:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/denver-ideal-org-the-lie-of-expansion/#comment-161785&quot;&gt;Marc Headley&lt;/a&gt;.

Been out for 32 years and, golly, I did forget to tell them.  Well, unless you count politely requesting to the HCO sec that he stick scientology up his fucking ass as telling them.  Oops!  And still live in Denver area.  Still waiting for my goldenrod....]]></description>
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<p>Been out for 32 years and, golly, I did forget to tell them.  Well, unless you count politely requesting to the HCO sec that he stick scientology up his fucking ass as telling them.  Oops!  And still live in Denver area.  Still waiting for my goldenrod&#8230;.</p>
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