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		By: Really		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Really]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2021 23:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-431003&quot;&gt;Balletlady&lt;/a&gt;.

Again, the police CANNOT compel a person to meet with them.  E.g., you tell the police that you haven&#039;t seen my wife Janet on stage at a scamology event for 20 years.  The cops come to my house.  I answer the door and they inquire about Janet.  I tell them to get off my property or I will arrest them for trespass. They have to leave or get arrested.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-431003">Balletlady</a>.</p>
<p>Again, the police CANNOT compel a person to meet with them.  E.g., you tell the police that you haven&#8217;t seen my wife Janet on stage at a scamology event for 20 years.  The cops come to my house.  I answer the door and they inquire about Janet.  I tell them to get off my property or I will arrest them for trespass. They have to leave or get arrested.</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2021 19:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A &quot;wellness check&quot; NORMALLY means seeing the person alive &#038; &quot;well&quot;..................not taking someone else&#039;s words that that person inquired about &quot;doesn&#039;t want to be seen&quot;..............

Imagine all the murders that could take place &#038; gotten awaqy with..........as in &quot;Yes indeed my husband/wife has NOT spoken to or seen their family in six months to a year or more but he/she....... is alive &#038; well  (&#038; buried under the garage floor).............. just doesn&#039;t want to step forward.................]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;wellness check&#8221; NORMALLY means seeing the person alive &amp; &#8220;well&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;not taking someone else&#8217;s words that that person inquired about &#8220;doesn&#8217;t want to be seen&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Imagine all the murders that could take place &amp; gotten awaqy with&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.as in &#8220;Yes indeed my husband/wife has NOT spoken to or seen their family in six months to a year or more but he/she&#8230;&#8230;. is alive &amp; well  (&amp; buried under the garage floor)&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. just doesn&#8217;t want to step forward&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 20:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426468&quot;&gt;Balletlady&lt;/a&gt;.

It isn&#039;t illegal to NOT be seen in public Ballet Lady.  As long as there is no complaint from anyone who is close to Shelly there is NOTHING the gov can do.  Remember this IS a free country and neither YOU nor I have the authority to demand that anyone show their face in public.

Not to say she isn&#039;t in trouble it is just that there is NO actual evidence that she IS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426468">Balletlady</a>.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t illegal to NOT be seen in public Ballet Lady.  As long as there is no complaint from anyone who is close to Shelly there is NOTHING the gov can do.  Remember this IS a free country and neither YOU nor I have the authority to demand that anyone show their face in public.</p>
<p>Not to say she isn&#8217;t in trouble it is just that there is NO actual evidence that she IS.</p>
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		By: Ex staff Member gone Clear		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ex staff Member gone Clear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2021 19:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As an Ex Staff Member, the only way I was able to get out and stay out is to look at the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  The internet, all of the books written by ex members, the movies, the documentaries by the best in the business (Alex Gibney and Lawrence Wright) 
the docuseries by Leah and Mike and these blogs all helped me &quot;as is&quot; Scientology and it disappeared from my universe. Thanks Ron for the tech.  Hip Hip!
Getting rid of the loaded language takes a little confront but I now am free of the implants via Hubbard&#039;s written &quot;tech&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Ex Staff Member, the only way I was able to get out and stay out is to look at the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  The internet, all of the books written by ex members, the movies, the documentaries by the best in the business (Alex Gibney and Lawrence Wright)<br />
the docuseries by Leah and Mike and these blogs all helped me &#8220;as is&#8221; Scientology and it disappeared from my universe. Thanks Ron for the tech.  Hip Hip!<br />
Getting rid of the loaded language takes a little confront but I now am free of the implants via Hubbard&#8217;s written &#8220;tech&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Karl		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-427198</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2021 21:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426618&quot;&gt;Karen de la Carriere&lt;/a&gt;.

Precisely!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426618">Karen de la Carriere</a>.</p>
<p>Precisely!</p>
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		By: Rock Slamming on Scientology		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rock Slamming on Scientology]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2021 14:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426629&quot;&gt;Karen de la Carriere&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, Jeffrey Augustine, Karen De la Carrierre 
and all of the other courageous heroes who are relentless to expose the criminal organization called Scientology.  It is not a religion, it is an evil cult.

Believe me -the websites, the podcasts, the books, the interviews, the radio shows, the movies and documentaries - ALL work and are keeping people from going into Scientology and helping Lurkers like me, get out and stay out of Scientology.

I love the Scientology Money Project by Jeff Augustine.  It has powerful truths you can&#039;t deny.  

Very Well Done SP&#039;s :)

These  websites are a great tools to expose the criminal scam that is Scientology.  

Please - everyone  needs to be post reviews  on Yelp, Google, Consumer Reports and all other types of sites.

 May I recommend to Join and post on the &quot;Nextdoor&quot;.  

It is an app for your local neighborhoods and can reach far and wide in your city.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426629">Karen de la Carriere</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, Jeffrey Augustine, Karen De la Carrierre<br />
and all of the other courageous heroes who are relentless to expose the criminal organization called Scientology.  It is not a religion, it is an evil cult.</p>
<p>Believe me -the websites, the podcasts, the books, the interviews, the radio shows, the movies and documentaries &#8211; ALL work and are keeping people from going into Scientology and helping Lurkers like me, get out and stay out of Scientology.</p>
<p>I love the Scientology Money Project by Jeff Augustine.  It has powerful truths you can&#8217;t deny.  </p>
<p>Very Well Done SP&#8217;s 🙂</p>
<p>These  websites are a great tools to expose the criminal scam that is Scientology.  </p>
<p>Please &#8211; everyone  needs to be post reviews  on Yelp, Google, Consumer Reports and all other types of sites.</p>
<p> May I recommend to Join and post on the &#8220;Nextdoor&#8221;.  </p>
<p>It is an app for your local neighborhoods and can reach far and wide in your city.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-427029</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2021 14:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426516&quot;&gt;Exbritscino&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s entirely possible that someone CLAIMING to be Shelly said she was fine and didn&#039;t want to be bothered.  I find it well within scientological &quot;ethics&quot; to lie to the authorities on command like that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426516">Exbritscino</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s entirely possible that someone CLAIMING to be Shelly said she was fine and didn&#8217;t want to be bothered.  I find it well within scientological &#8220;ethics&#8221; to lie to the authorities on command like that.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2021 13:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426649&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Justice for mom&quot; OLD news, and there are contemporary official docs AND an audio recording, IIRC which disprove those scurrilous lies thoroughly.
Ignore the poor deluded children thinking they&#039;re doing GOOD by lying through their teeth to &quot;shatter&quot; a good man who just couldn&#039;t take any more of the scn balderdash.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426649">otherles</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Justice for mom&#8221; OLD news, and there are contemporary official docs AND an audio recording, IIRC which disprove those scurrilous lies thoroughly.<br />
Ignore the poor deluded children thinking they&#8217;re doing GOOD by lying through their teeth to &#8220;shatter&#8221; a good man who just couldn&#8217;t take any more of the scn balderdash.</p>
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		By: Ex-Cyantologist		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-427001</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ex-Cyantologist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2021 12:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There have been many instances of Scientology PIs harassing people. However, this isn&#039;t legal, because it&#039;s INVASION OF PRIVACY.

A similar case happened around 1965, when Ralph Nader wrote a book called &quot;unsafe at any speed&quot; about a certain car model from General Motors. Wikipedia states :

&quot;The book became an immediate bestseller, but also prompted a vicious backlash from General Motors (GM) who attempted to discredit Nader by tapping his phone in an attempt to uncover salacious information and, when that failed, hiring prostitutes in an attempt to catch him in a compromising situation.[16][17] Nader, by then working as an unpaid consultant to United States Senator Abe Ribicoff, reported to the senator that he suspected he was being followed. Ribicoff convened an inquiry that called GM CEO James Roche who admitted, when placed under oath, that the company had hired a private detective agency to investigate Nader. Nader sued GM for invasion of privacy, settling the case for $425,000 and using the proceeds to found the activist organization known as the Center for the Study of Responsive Law.&quot;

425,000 $ in 1965 would be a few millions today...

Wouldn&#039;t it be possible to go after that &quot;Church&quot; in a class action suit, uniting all those who had been harassed by them ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been many instances of Scientology PIs harassing people. However, this isn&#8217;t legal, because it&#8217;s INVASION OF PRIVACY.</p>
<p>A similar case happened around 1965, when Ralph Nader wrote a book called &#8220;unsafe at any speed&#8221; about a certain car model from General Motors. Wikipedia states :</p>
<p>&#8220;The book became an immediate bestseller, but also prompted a vicious backlash from General Motors (GM) who attempted to discredit Nader by tapping his phone in an attempt to uncover salacious information and, when that failed, hiring prostitutes in an attempt to catch him in a compromising situation.[16][17] Nader, by then working as an unpaid consultant to United States Senator Abe Ribicoff, reported to the senator that he suspected he was being followed. Ribicoff convened an inquiry that called GM CEO James Roche who admitted, when placed under oath, that the company had hired a private detective agency to investigate Nader. Nader sued GM for invasion of privacy, settling the case for $425,000 and using the proceeds to found the activist organization known as the Center for the Study of Responsive Law.&#8221;</p>
<p>425,000 $ in 1965 would be a few millions today&#8230;</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be possible to go after that &#8220;Church&#8221; in a class action suit, uniting all those who had been harassed by them ?</p>
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		By: Mark Kamran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Kamran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2021 11:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426629&quot;&gt;Karen de la Carriere&lt;/a&gt;.

The solution is very simple , Class Action Law suit from celebrities. 

One thing which is new development over last decade is the shrinking world of Cult followers. 

Now they  hiring ( wogs) manpower to assists the PIs.
And insult to injury those wogs do not know  what&#039;s going on.
For example if  East Indian or North African cab drivers were  hired to follow and assist PIs on keeping eye on any celebrity movement. 
Is it possible convince them for $ 50 to do that job ? 

Definitely not , why would they jeopardize their driving  license or take risk.of being charged for stalking.

So what&#039;s the option...
would they be told that, working for a renown Cult ,reputation marred with scandals ....? 

Or 

They were given cooked story ,going at any length , after confirming that they are not the audience of English sitcom and nor reader of English newspapers. 

I have mention on my reddit blog about these &quot; invisible hands&quot;  the Clear &#038; Present Danger and 2nd Class Action Law suit.

USA is not short of Enterprising lawyers and....bankers who would take it as very good business venture.
Backed by Human Rights activists and  visible minority advocates , no one would dare to support the Cult.

It is possible that many PIs to save their license and reputation &quot; switch side&quot;

After all from PIs to retired cops to uninformed Wogs , it&#039;s all about Money <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4b0.png" alt="💰" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />

They did it for money &#038; do it again for more money]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dirty-cops-and-pis/#comment-426629">Karen de la Carriere</a>.</p>
<p>The solution is very simple , Class Action Law suit from celebrities. </p>
<p>One thing which is new development over last decade is the shrinking world of Cult followers. </p>
<p>Now they  hiring ( wogs) manpower to assists the PIs.<br />
And insult to injury those wogs do not know  what&#8217;s going on.<br />
For example if  East Indian or North African cab drivers were  hired to follow and assist PIs on keeping eye on any celebrity movement.<br />
Is it possible convince them for $ 50 to do that job ? </p>
<p>Definitely not , why would they jeopardize their driving  license or take risk.of being charged for stalking.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the option&#8230;<br />
would they be told that, working for a renown Cult ,reputation marred with scandals &#8230;.? </p>
<p>Or </p>
<p>They were given cooked story ,going at any length , after confirming that they are not the audience of English sitcom and nor reader of English newspapers. </p>
<p>I have mention on my reddit blog about these &#8221; invisible hands&#8221;  the Clear &amp; Present Danger and 2nd Class Action Law suit.</p>
<p>USA is not short of Enterprising lawyers and&#8230;.bankers who would take it as very good business venture.<br />
Backed by Human Rights activists and  visible minority advocates , no one would dare to support the Cult.</p>
<p>It is possible that many PIs to save their license and reputation &#8221; switch side&#8221;</p>
<p>After all from PIs to retired cops to uninformed Wogs , it&#8217;s all about Money 💰</p>
<p>They did it for money &amp; do it again for more money</p>
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