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		By: Tim-S		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-77042</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sigh! I have known Paul Clark for a couple of decades.  He is a good egg.

He did some work for the GO in the past and as a result thinks along those lines.

Paul has done very little training in those 40 years but has received some good auditing

in the form of L11 &#038; L12.  He knows the tech works when properly applied.  He doesn&#039;t know 

or doesn&#039;t believe that it&#039;s not generally being applied properly on a broad scale.  

And providing him examples are mostly useless because he has lacks the training against which to align

and evaluate it.  The Church, of course, denies these expose&#039;s and he believes the Church.

He believes those listed on the Church&#039;s shit list are all lying, SP&#039;s because the Church says so.

These are uninspected data accepted as fact.  He also is unwilling to look, knowing the consequences.

I&#039;m Sorry Paul if these statements appear harsh.

Paul has an unshakable belief in the Church and it&#039;s stated Goals.  I don&#039;t believe he sees that the Church and the Tech are not the same thing.  These terminals are collapsed into one for the GPM item they are.  

The Church&#039;s stated purposes are opposed (according to the Church) by those wife beating, Sp, squirreling apostates on the internet and so they must be opposed by parishioners too. 

All that is necessary is to differentiate the Church, LRH, it&#039;s officers, Miscavige, OSA et al from the 
workable portions of the good he has experienced and to see that the good he experienced, is alive and available elsewhere and not in a games condition with the public.

A seemingly simple exercise. 

Paul, I would encourage you to look over the data you are told to ignore. You certainly are capable of determining fact from fiction. A seemingly simple exercise in confront. Seeing evil may make it more difficult or uncomfortable especially if that evil is briefly glimpsed in your groups own court. If you truly seek the truth, one must confront what is in front of you. Good luck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh! I have known Paul Clark for a couple of decades.  He is a good egg.</p>
<p>He did some work for the GO in the past and as a result thinks along those lines.</p>
<p>Paul has done very little training in those 40 years but has received some good auditing</p>
<p>in the form of L11 &amp; L12.  He knows the tech works when properly applied.  He doesn&#8217;t know </p>
<p>or doesn&#8217;t believe that it&#8217;s not generally being applied properly on a broad scale.  </p>
<p>And providing him examples are mostly useless because he has lacks the training against which to align</p>
<p>and evaluate it.  The Church, of course, denies these expose&#8217;s and he believes the Church.</p>
<p>He believes those listed on the Church&#8217;s shit list are all lying, SP&#8217;s because the Church says so.</p>
<p>These are uninspected data accepted as fact.  He also is unwilling to look, knowing the consequences.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Sorry Paul if these statements appear harsh.</p>
<p>Paul has an unshakable belief in the Church and it&#8217;s stated Goals.  I don&#8217;t believe he sees that the Church and the Tech are not the same thing.  These terminals are collapsed into one for the GPM item they are.  </p>
<p>The Church&#8217;s stated purposes are opposed (according to the Church) by those wife beating, Sp, squirreling apostates on the internet and so they must be opposed by parishioners too. </p>
<p>All that is necessary is to differentiate the Church, LRH, it&#8217;s officers, Miscavige, OSA et al from the<br />
workable portions of the good he has experienced and to see that the good he experienced, is alive and available elsewhere and not in a games condition with the public.</p>
<p>A seemingly simple exercise. </p>
<p>Paul, I would encourage you to look over the data you are told to ignore. You certainly are capable of determining fact from fiction. A seemingly simple exercise in confront. Seeing evil may make it more difficult or uncomfortable especially if that evil is briefly glimpsed in your groups own court. If you truly seek the truth, one must confront what is in front of you. Good luck.</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-77034</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keeping Scientology Working #1 says so much.

LRH&#039;s bold challenge on top of it all, his stating that those that wish to quit should be let to quit fast.

When you unwrap enough of the Hubbard contradictions off, you have to laugh that you didn&#039;t quit faster.

And KSW #1 lets this option so prominently go unrealized, due to the Hubbard layers of veneer that there is something of real value.

People put all the good that is ever in Scientology, into Scientology.

When people leave, they naturally take their own share of their own personal good back out into the world.

It&#039;s not Hubbard&#039;s good.   It&#039;s people&#039;s own good.   

Hubbard so wraps up people&#039;s good in being his discovered subject&#039;s product.  

But people&#039;s good was in them, it&#039;s their good.   Not Hubbard&#039;s subject&#039;s product.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeping Scientology Working #1 says so much.</p>
<p>LRH&#8217;s bold challenge on top of it all, his stating that those that wish to quit should be let to quit fast.</p>
<p>When you unwrap enough of the Hubbard contradictions off, you have to laugh that you didn&#8217;t quit faster.</p>
<p>And KSW #1 lets this option so prominently go unrealized, due to the Hubbard layers of veneer that there is something of real value.</p>
<p>People put all the good that is ever in Scientology, into Scientology.</p>
<p>When people leave, they naturally take their own share of their own personal good back out into the world.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not Hubbard&#8217;s good.   It&#8217;s people&#8217;s own good.   </p>
<p>Hubbard so wraps up people&#8217;s good in being his discovered subject&#8217;s product.  </p>
<p>But people&#8217;s good was in them, it&#8217;s their good.   Not Hubbard&#8217;s subject&#8217;s product.</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76982</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76842&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

failure of the application of the tech from &quot;science of survival&quot; mandating &quot;disposing of them quietly and without sorrow&quot; for &quot;people from 2.0 down on the tone scale.&quot; Sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76842">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>failure of the application of the tech from &#8220;science of survival&#8221; mandating &#8220;disposing of them quietly and without sorrow&#8221; for &#8220;people from 2.0 down on the tone scale.&#8221; Sure.</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 14:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76865&quot;&gt;TJ&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s good to just talk about it - which is why that&#039;s explicitly forbidden in the criminal organisation known as the &quot;church&quot; of $cientology...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76865">TJ</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to just talk about it &#8211; which is why that&#8217;s explicitly forbidden in the criminal organisation known as the &#8220;church&#8221; of $cientology&#8230;</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76916&quot;&gt;Meja Deja&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe the target is the Certainty which was drilled into him along with the facts? The process by which people end up doing what is bad for themselves and for others while feeling that there is no alternative? Dunno. At least, outside a cult, we can debate these things :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76916">Meja Deja</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe the target is the Certainty which was drilled into him along with the facts? The process by which people end up doing what is bad for themselves and for others while feeling that there is no alternative? Dunno. At least, outside a cult, we can debate these things 🙂</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76979</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 13:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The site is now showing correctly for me. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site is now showing correctly for me. Thanks.</p>
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		By: 1984		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76963</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76868&quot;&gt;Alanzo&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes Alanzo, the end does not justify the means.
Admin, tech and ethics form a big bag of tools.Usage of tools depend on intelligence, and intention.
Taking 2 different tools out of context for the same job is certainly an out point, and it is done by the still-ins and the anti&#039;s. 
The 2 contradictions that Mike pointed out are good. They are out points, and there are more (including missing points). So, what is the real problem, and how did it occur? Can the problem be really fixed, if desired?
&quot;...especially since they have been trained so hard in Scientology...&quot; does not mean that they were trained well, or fully. Bit like the joke, &#039;If the only tool you have is a hammer, after a while, everything starts to look like a nail&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76868">Alanzo</a>.</p>
<p>Yes Alanzo, the end does not justify the means.<br />
Admin, tech and ethics form a big bag of tools.Usage of tools depend on intelligence, and intention.<br />
Taking 2 different tools out of context for the same job is certainly an out point, and it is done by the still-ins and the anti&#8217;s.<br />
The 2 contradictions that Mike pointed out are good. They are out points, and there are more (including missing points). So, what is the real problem, and how did it occur? Can the problem be really fixed, if desired?<br />
&#8220;&#8230;especially since they have been trained so hard in Scientology&#8230;&#8221; does not mean that they were trained well, or fully. Bit like the joke, &#8216;If the only tool you have is a hammer, after a while, everything starts to look like a nail&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Michael Mallen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 20:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76949&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

+1]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76949">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>+1</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 20:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76938&quot;&gt;theosismanides&lt;/a&gt;.

I think something is very wrong in the church of scientology. Disconnection is not going to end and people are not going to sop being abused by pointing out the good things -- that is what the church and Miscavige specialize in. Any small &quot;good&quot; thing is blown up into an enormous, amazing accomplishment that is worthy of more massive donations. Those trying to find the truth or their way out of the trap don&#039;t need me informing them of the wonders of scientology, they get plenty of that already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76938">theosismanides</a>.</p>
<p>I think something is very wrong in the church of scientology. Disconnection is not going to end and people are not going to sop being abused by pointing out the good things &#8212; that is what the church and Miscavige specialize in. Any small &#8220;good&#8221; thing is blown up into an enormous, amazing accomplishment that is worthy of more massive donations. Those trying to find the truth or their way out of the trap don&#8217;t need me informing them of the wonders of scientology, they get plenty of that already.</p>
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		By: Mark Marco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 20:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76850&quot;&gt;Zana&lt;/a&gt;.

yes, thankyou Zana
this makes what I was trying to say ever more clear]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dont-freak-out/#comment-76850">Zana</a>.</p>
<p>yes, thankyou Zana<br />
this makes what I was trying to say ever more clear</p>
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