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		By: Yossi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yossi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76332&quot;&gt;Terril Park&lt;/a&gt;.

Terril Park,
I was Solo Nots D of P for about 4 years. There were lots of arbitraries and there still are. One of the biggest arbitraries is that you can&#039;t get Solo Nots outside the Church and they wave this threat of &quot;not achieving eternity&quot; to all OT&#039;s. This level IS attainable in the field, and it is delivered standardly, without any arbitraries. Our field group delivers this level with great success. The more people know the entire bridge is available, the faster we can remove the chains of suppression.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76332">Terril Park</a>.</p>
<p>Terril Park,<br />
I was Solo Nots D of P for about 4 years. There were lots of arbitraries and there still are. One of the biggest arbitraries is that you can&#8217;t get Solo Nots outside the Church and they wave this threat of &#8220;not achieving eternity&#8221; to all OT&#8217;s. This level IS attainable in the field, and it is delivered standardly, without any arbitraries. Our field group delivers this level with great success. The more people know the entire bridge is available, the faster we can remove the chains of suppression.</p>
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		By: RolandRB		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76391</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 05:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76120&quot;&gt;thegman77&lt;/a&gt;.

Did you never do The Key to Life course?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76120">thegman77</a>.</p>
<p>Did you never do The Key to Life course?</p>
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		By: RolandRB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 05:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope the deliver ALL of LRH&#039;s tect 100% standardly as he originally intended. Do they reject any part of LRH&#039;s tech as being harmful or dangerous? I hope not - I want to go do my Introspection Rundown there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the deliver ALL of LRH&#8217;s tect 100% standardly as he originally intended. Do they reject any part of LRH&#8217;s tech as being harmful or dangerous? I hope not &#8211; I want to go do my Introspection Rundown there.</p>
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		By: Doug Parent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 05:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76330&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Jane. I could not agree more with what you said. The can&#039;t-have that the RCS runs on people is just unspeakably suppressive. So many people gave so much for so long for so little in return. Miscavige can no longer stop Scientology from being used on the outside, in the light, by those with good intentions who wish to help others. That is the bright side of all this, people ARE becoming more able and people are winning again. I know people who are finally getting in back in session after years of having given up. I never get tired of hearing about it. I only wish my old friends (who are laying low) would just decide to bypass the cult forever and join those who are actually making real bridge progress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76330">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Jane. I could not agree more with what you said. The can&#8217;t-have that the RCS runs on people is just unspeakably suppressive. So many people gave so much for so long for so little in return. Miscavige can no longer stop Scientology from being used on the outside, in the light, by those with good intentions who wish to help others. That is the bright side of all this, people ARE becoming more able and people are winning again. I know people who are finally getting in back in session after years of having given up. I never get tired of hearing about it. I only wish my old friends (who are laying low) would just decide to bypass the cult forever and join those who are actually making real bridge progress.</p>
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		By: sheeplebane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had an interesting thought..

Why dont we kill the church by showering people with love, kindness and excellent tech services?

Kinda like what dror is doing right now. Lets multiply that 10 fold (never use the number 47- ever!) and see what happens?

Beats bitchin and moaning, obliterates I know best and very well may be an exciting game to play, who knows? 

Unchartered territory. Terra unfamiliarra (yes I made the word up - so what? ;) )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an interesting thought..</p>
<p>Why dont we kill the church by showering people with love, kindness and excellent tech services?</p>
<p>Kinda like what dror is doing right now. Lets multiply that 10 fold (never use the number 47- ever!) and see what happens?</p>
<p>Beats bitchin and moaning, obliterates I know best and very well may be an exciting game to play, who knows? </p>
<p>Unchartered territory. Terra unfamiliarra (yes I made the word up &#8211; so what? 😉 )</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Odd, Thank you so much for that comment.  I, too, experienced cruelties&#039; in the Catholic Church etc.  The 1st Buddhist I supposedly was being trained under wanted sex yet avoidance of that was some of what I was reading.  This was a confusion for a while.  I think we are all better off if we can view the world from a middle path and do our best to question everything that does not add-up and keep understanding more of it.  After the 35yrs of S and the 5 of sorting out the things that did not add-up over the last 35yrs (a ‘back-log’), re-find myself and my own thoughts, I&#039;m every day losing the judgments and beginning to see a real world.   It must take a lifetime!    But I can see that at least a person should question what does not add up and of course recognize when it does not.  A person should be willing to change his mind and of course be able to recognize when his own mind is the one stopping a change that he has envisioned in some cases.  

The one nice part about all this life is I’m quite certain that I will never be sitting around wishing for the ‘good ‘ol days’ LOL.  Thanks again 
(I see I&#039;m 2 days late but posting anyway)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd, Thank you so much for that comment.  I, too, experienced cruelties&#8217; in the Catholic Church etc.  The 1st Buddhist I supposedly was being trained under wanted sex yet avoidance of that was some of what I was reading.  This was a confusion for a while.  I think we are all better off if we can view the world from a middle path and do our best to question everything that does not add-up and keep understanding more of it.  After the 35yrs of S and the 5 of sorting out the things that did not add-up over the last 35yrs (a ‘back-log’), re-find myself and my own thoughts, I&#8217;m every day losing the judgments and beginning to see a real world.   It must take a lifetime!    But I can see that at least a person should question what does not add up and of course recognize when it does not.  A person should be willing to change his mind and of course be able to recognize when his own mind is the one stopping a change that he has envisioned in some cases.  </p>
<p>The one nice part about all this life is I’m quite certain that I will never be sitting around wishing for the ‘good ‘ol days’ LOL.  Thanks again <br />
(I see I&#8217;m 2 days late but posting anyway)</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76329&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Mike. You are more than generous with me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76329">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Mike. You are more than generous with me.</p>
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		By: Terril Park		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 19:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76332&quot;&gt;Terril Park&lt;/a&gt;.

Note I&#039;m not the SOLO NOTs D of P. I quoted  one who  is and posted these stats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76332">Terril Park</a>.</p>
<p>Note I&#8217;m not the SOLO NOTs D of P. I quoted  one who  is and posted these stats.</p>
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		By: Terril Park		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 19:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76096&quot;&gt;Dan Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

I did OT 2 &#038;3 twice to good effect. I&#039;d read the OT 3 materials prior to this 
and didn&#039;t consider them factual. I surveyed others around 10 years ago and
found around 70% IIRC also  didn&#039;t consider the story factual. Yet most got 
good results.


   There is a tag status for each Solo Nots auditor:

Green tag: audit 4 to 6 sessions daily and comes on time for his 6 months check.

Grey tag: audit less than 4 sessions daily and doesn&#039;t come on time for his 6 month check.

Orange tag: Not allowed to solo audit because of out ethics situation.

Purple tag: Not allowed to audit because of illness or sickness.

Black tag: Disaffected with the church. 

See the way it works? One starts the level with a Green tag then, depending on his &quot;ability to be Cause over Life&quot; one keeps his Green tag or, follow the dwindling spiral to Black tag. 

There are about 5,300 Solo Nots Auditors worldwide and about(depending on their current status):

1,000 Green tags
1,100 Grey tags
900 Orange tags
800 Purple tags
1,500 Black tags

The 10,000 on Solo Nots is just a dream. There is only 1,000 of them auditing regularly.

I was Solo Nots D of P Europe........

    In the independent / FZ I&#039;ve heard of no such tragedies. If anyone else has I&#039;d be 
interested in details. One dosn&#039;t have the stresses that one gets at Flag on these levels.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76096">Dan Locke</a>.</p>
<p>I did OT 2 &amp;3 twice to good effect. I&#8217;d read the OT 3 materials prior to this<br />
and didn&#8217;t consider them factual. I surveyed others around 10 years ago and<br />
found around 70% IIRC also  didn&#8217;t consider the story factual. Yet most got<br />
good results.</p>
<p>   There is a tag status for each Solo Nots auditor:</p>
<p>Green tag: audit 4 to 6 sessions daily and comes on time for his 6 months check.</p>
<p>Grey tag: audit less than 4 sessions daily and doesn&#8217;t come on time for his 6 month check.</p>
<p>Orange tag: Not allowed to solo audit because of out ethics situation.</p>
<p>Purple tag: Not allowed to audit because of illness or sickness.</p>
<p>Black tag: Disaffected with the church. </p>
<p>See the way it works? One starts the level with a Green tag then, depending on his &#8220;ability to be Cause over Life&#8221; one keeps his Green tag or, follow the dwindling spiral to Black tag. </p>
<p>There are about 5,300 Solo Nots Auditors worldwide and about(depending on their current status):</p>
<p>1,000 Green tags<br />
1,100 Grey tags<br />
900 Orange tags<br />
800 Purple tags<br />
1,500 Black tags</p>
<p>The 10,000 on Solo Nots is just a dream. There is only 1,000 of them auditing regularly.</p>
<p>I was Solo Nots D of P Europe&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>    In the independent / FZ I&#8217;ve heard of no such tragedies. If anyone else has I&#8217;d be<br />
interested in details. One dosn&#8217;t have the stresses that one gets at Flag on these levels.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 19:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76308&quot;&gt;Doug Parent&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m so happy for you Doug and I am also very grateful for the indie auditing that I&#039;ve had.  It was the best recovery that I could have had, flipping a bird at the incredible can&#039;t have that the rcs has run on the public.  Trey Lotz, Helen Chen, Randy Smith, Ingrid Smith are a few of the skilled and caring tech people, in the LA area, who I have heard first hand reports, regarding their delivery.  The wins I:ve heard were moving, real, personal, beautiful, and done on the individuals own determinism.  Independence means just taking charge of your own spiritual journey, owning it and managing it on your own terms.  IMO there is no spiritual advancement without personal integrity, and once that datum was lost in the rcs, the game was over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dror-center-two-years-on/#comment-76308">Doug Parent</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so happy for you Doug and I am also very grateful for the indie auditing that I&#8217;ve had.  It was the best recovery that I could have had, flipping a bird at the incredible can&#8217;t have that the rcs has run on the public.  Trey Lotz, Helen Chen, Randy Smith, Ingrid Smith are a few of the skilled and caring tech people, in the LA area, who I have heard first hand reports, regarding their delivery.  The wins I:ve heard were moving, real, personal, beautiful, and done on the individuals own determinism.  Independence means just taking charge of your own spiritual journey, owning it and managing it on your own terms.  IMO there is no spiritual advancement without personal integrity, and once that datum was lost in the rcs, the game was over.</p>
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