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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363101&quot;&gt;Mary Kahn&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you, Mary, all of the Leah &#038; Mike &quot;Fair Game&quot; podcasts are excellent. The Steve Cannane podcast (Australian journalist), and the Ray Jeffrey podcast (attorney based in Texas)--whew, those are like mini college courses. So much detail and important history.  I flagged those for a second listen.  Absolutely excellent.

In addition, I second what has been said here, that YOU ARE AMAZING. Your contribution to the &quot;Aftermath&quot; series is so very powerful and helpful. Thank you, Mary. It looked like, from that episode, you early on in your Scientology career achieved Class VI auditor. So many &quot;Well Done&#039;s&quot; you achieved over the years.  And now you still are!  

(I am a Class IV. It is particularly unnerving, when you are auditor trained and you know genuinely the power of truth, ARC, wisdom. For years, I privately thought: Why is this group so bi-polar? We have the knowledge and wisdom right here. Why not just practice Affinity-Reality-Communication to achieve Understanding? Why is this so difficult? Repeatedly tossed aside in favor of command and control.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363101">Mary Kahn</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you, Mary, all of the Leah &amp; Mike &#8220;Fair Game&#8221; podcasts are excellent. The Steve Cannane podcast (Australian journalist), and the Ray Jeffrey podcast (attorney based in Texas)&#8211;whew, those are like mini college courses. So much detail and important history.  I flagged those for a second listen.  Absolutely excellent.</p>
<p>In addition, I second what has been said here, that YOU ARE AMAZING. Your contribution to the &#8220;Aftermath&#8221; series is so very powerful and helpful. Thank you, Mary. It looked like, from that episode, you early on in your Scientology career achieved Class VI auditor. So many &#8220;Well Done&#8217;s&#8221; you achieved over the years.  And now you still are!  </p>
<p>(I am a Class IV. It is particularly unnerving, when you are auditor trained and you know genuinely the power of truth, ARC, wisdom. For years, I privately thought: Why is this group so bi-polar? We have the knowledge and wisdom right here. Why not just practice Affinity-Reality-Communication to achieve Understanding? Why is this so difficult? Repeatedly tossed aside in favor of command and control.)</p>
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		By: Jillian Yuhas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2020 00:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363298&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Well dang it. I’ve always been envious of people who have that health card. 
It’s always darkest before the dawn. 
I have to believe in karma, for all evildoers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363298">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>Well dang it. I’ve always been envious of people who have that health card.<br />
It’s always darkest before the dawn.<br />
I have to believe in karma, for all evildoers&#8230;</p>
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		By: Amethyst		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2020 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That was another excellent episode. Thank you so much!  I vividly remember when Marty started his blog. It was so helpful to me even though I had been out since 1984. I closely followed both the Debbie Cook suit as well as Monique’s. Then my  mind was blown as Marty began to betray us all with the garbage he began to write. Thank goodness for people like you, Leah and Ray Jeffries. This podcast was very informative and helped pull it all together.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was another excellent episode. Thank you so much!  I vividly remember when Marty started his blog. It was so helpful to me even though I had been out since 1984. I closely followed both the Debbie Cook suit as well as Monique’s. Then my  mind was blown as Marty began to betray us all with the garbage he began to write. Thank goodness for people like you, Leah and Ray Jeffries. This podcast was very informative and helped pull it all together.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2020 16:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363229&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

I greatly appreciate that, Cindy. 
     In the SO, the main reason I stayed is because they needed me.]]></description>
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<p>I greatly appreciate that, Cindy.<br />
     In the SO, the main reason I stayed is because they needed me.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 15:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363115&quot;&gt;Enturbulation Nation&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, they could have set up a trust or a fund for the kid, and not have to show that money.  And there could be more money in off shore accounts in Marty&#039;s name.  Lots of way to give money and not show it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363115">Enturbulation Nation</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, they could have set up a trust or a fund for the kid, and not have to show that money.  And there could be more money in off shore accounts in Marty&#8217;s name.  Lots of way to give money and not show it.</p>
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		By: Newcomer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363302&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said Skyler,
Humility is the strong suit against the cult. No member in good standing can truly understand why anyone would &#039;lessen themselves&#039; by commenting that something is &#039;only their opinion&#039; when it comes to $cientology (or perhaps anything else for that matter).

But that is where thinking for yourself begins. You have to know that of course it is &#039;only your opinion&#039; and in that moment it also matters by just that same amount. Taken over time ones personal certainty increases and before you know it (when someone says you need to do this or that) you are ready to say &quot;stick it&quot; ........... in my humble opinion! :)

yo &lt;b&gt;Dave&lt;/b&gt;,
Stick it good buddy. And be sure to enjoy yer last minute stat push taday at too. Should be fun.
BTW, I had another great conversation yesterday shedding some light into yer tunnel of love called the CST vaults. Many more are now aware of the blight that exists in their backyard. I told em it was just my opinion and that they should check out yer website. Hope it helps yer clickbait count ........ speakin of stats!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363302">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>Well said Skyler,<br />
Humility is the strong suit against the cult. No member in good standing can truly understand why anyone would &#8216;lessen themselves&#8217; by commenting that something is &#8216;only their opinion&#8217; when it comes to $cientology (or perhaps anything else for that matter).</p>
<p>But that is where thinking for yourself begins. You have to know that of course it is &#8216;only your opinion&#8217; and in that moment it also matters by just that same amount. Taken over time ones personal certainty increases and before you know it (when someone says you need to do this or that) you are ready to say &#8220;stick it&#8221; &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. in my humble opinion! 🙂</p>
<p>yo <b>Dave</b>,<br />
Stick it good buddy. And be sure to enjoy yer last minute stat push taday at too. Should be fun.<br />
BTW, I had another great conversation yesterday shedding some light into yer tunnel of love called the CST vaults. Many more are now aware of the blight that exists in their backyard. I told em it was just my opinion and that they should check out yer website. Hope it helps yer clickbait count &#8230;&#8230;.. speakin of stats!</p>
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		By: Niamh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niamh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 13:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to say I really enjoy the podcast. Not only is it informative but it&#039;s great entertainment  and you can hear the love between Leah and Mike. 

As a European I dont see the same hold scientology has in my own country but I know there is a centre of 2 here.  They target the vulnerable and young  through  free activities and free school supplies and teaching supplies.  

I wanted to get in contact with you to see what someone like me, who is outside but concerned could do . But your podcast has inspired me. I will be sending the info from this blog and podcast to the local government representatives so they can see what could possibly happen if scientology is left to get a food hold.  I&#039;m not a good writer so it would be great if someone who is could post a general letter/ email  that everyone could use to make sure our government is aware of the issue and to shoe that scientology may say they have big numbers but the really majority will no longer be quiet about them. 

Thanks again  I alway look forward to the next podcast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say I really enjoy the podcast. Not only is it informative but it&#8217;s great entertainment  and you can hear the love between Leah and Mike. </p>
<p>As a European I dont see the same hold scientology has in my own country but I know there is a centre of 2 here.  They target the vulnerable and young  through  free activities and free school supplies and teaching supplies.  </p>
<p>I wanted to get in contact with you to see what someone like me, who is outside but concerned could do . But your podcast has inspired me. I will be sending the info from this blog and podcast to the local government representatives so they can see what could possibly happen if scientology is left to get a food hold.  I&#8217;m not a good writer so it would be great if someone who is could post a general letter/ email  that everyone could use to make sure our government is aware of the issue and to shoe that scientology may say they have big numbers but the really majority will no longer be quiet about them. </p>
<p>Thanks again  I alway look forward to the next podcast.</p>
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		By: Newcomer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 13:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363201&quot;&gt;Bruce Ploetz&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I get the impression these poor animals were in the cages most of the time, though once in a while you would see them out and around. &quot;

This also describes the life of a member of the See Ogre.

Yo &lt;b&gt;Dave&lt;/b&gt;,
Who or what would bite the hand that feeds you good buddy?

Long answer: $cientologist in good standing
Short answer: &lt;b&gt;YOU&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363201">Bruce Ploetz</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I get the impression these poor animals were in the cages most of the time, though once in a while you would see them out and around. &#8221;</p>
<p>This also describes the life of a member of the See Ogre.</p>
<p>Yo <b>Dave</b>,<br />
Who or what would bite the hand that feeds you good buddy?</p>
<p>Long answer: $cientologist in good standing<br />
Short answer: <b>YOU</b></p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 06:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363164&quot;&gt;Newcomer&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you&#039;re right.  He had some kind of leverage on him, I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363164">Newcomer</a>.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right.  He had some kind of leverage on him, I think.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2020 06:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363201&quot;&gt;Bruce Ploetz&lt;/a&gt;.

He kept his beagles in small cages...somehow I had the idea that as cruel as he was to the underlings in his power, that he - somehow, he was kind to his dogs. I don&#039;t know why I assumed that.  Hitler it was said, was kind to his dogs.  So somehow I thought that Miscavige would be too.  And now that assumption has been blown.  Dogs in small cages...OMG...and beagles too.  They are outdoor dogs.  They  have to run, a lot.  I love beagles.  I&#039;d better stop now.  Kind of tired and not making much sense with this verbal rambling.  So now I know that he&#039;s thoroughly, completely bad.  I&#039;m still processing this.  Good night.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-10-attorney-ray-jeffrey/#comment-363201">Bruce Ploetz</a>.</p>
<p>He kept his beagles in small cages&#8230;somehow I had the idea that as cruel as he was to the underlings in his power, that he &#8211; somehow, he was kind to his dogs. I don&#8217;t know why I assumed that.  Hitler it was said, was kind to his dogs.  So somehow I thought that Miscavige would be too.  And now that assumption has been blown.  Dogs in small cages&#8230;OMG&#8230;and beagles too.  They are outdoor dogs.  They  have to run, a lot.  I love beagles.  I&#8217;d better stop now.  Kind of tired and not making much sense with this verbal rambling.  So now I know that he&#8217;s thoroughly, completely bad.  I&#8217;m still processing this.  Good night.</p>
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