This recent podcast’s description again does a disservice to those poor bastards still IN who can’t see their way out. Because it doesn’t describe truth. It won’t help them out.

After 40 years in, working in almost all areas of scn, Able, Narconon, APS, six Class V orgs as public or staff, O/O training in LA and Flag, years at Flag, ASHO, AO, years in LA, and East Coast, I have seen all manner of attitude and raising of children.

Hubbard gives conflicting information as usual. Hence, there is a plethora of writings that people do follow to “love and help children” and recognize that they are to be treated as people. There are many scios who sacrifice to teach and raise children with love and interest in their hearts and shown to the children. Children with Christmas’s and birthday and parties and outings and camping and and bedtime stories.

YAH, in the SO and in some AssHat families, maybe that meant the kids were writing OWs at 6 and pulling all nighters in your family boiler room, But within the hundreds of scio families I’ve known, most bore more similarity to normal wog family life than what is EVER EVER spoken of in these shows

Some people have regular jobs, make money, go on course, kids go to wog school, and go to college.

The children of Class V org staff all can lead very different lives depending upon the their situation. Many staff children do not have nice childhoods, are put onto course and are “volunteering” in CF and stuff after school, weekends, being groomed for staff. Or taken care of by low level, often NEW staff, bad babysitters, awful situations. I know dozens of those who have grown up and are in the SO or trapped on CLV staff.

SO children: that’s known about. Abuse and neglect. All those stories, those of the ranch schools, all that stuff is the bottom barrel of truth awfulness.

My main bitch is the way I seem to keep hearing on these shows how we all just abandon our children to be raised by the cherch.

That’s bullshit.

In the Non Celeb public world of orgs, and staff of groups and missions all over, you do us a huge disservice with these sweeping statements.

we fucking loved our kids and did a lot for them while altruistically working our asses off, sacrificing everything , saving the planet,

BAck off that and get some other info.

I hate what the cult did to my life and family. But I was not a monster parent, thank you very much.

Sometimes I wish Leah would listen to Mike a bit more; she cut him of to say what he had just said while he was trying to make a point about the real answer vs the party line…

Hello Balletlady,

So nice to hear from you – like always. I was only in the bubble for 3 or 4 days. But even if I was a never in, Mike & Leah’s Aftermath show was a tremendous revelation and it was so valuable to me in many ways. It made me realize there are scams and slick conmen (and women) around every corner who have enough experience to cheat most anyone out of their life savings and even out of their lives.

To anyone who has never watched The Aftermath, I would like to recommend it is an excellent show to watch – no matter whether you have ever been in a cult or not. It will give you some excellent information to help you avoid being cheated by many different kinds of people in many different kinds of circumstances.

To Mike and Leah, I want to say thank you again for the terrific service they have done to the world. I know that I am greatfully grateful. Even gratefully grateful too!

On Reddit recently people were speculating on Shelly Miscavages whereabouts and someone suggested that she may be raising the new LRH reincarnation. Perhaps due to her high status and maternal nature she was tasked with the duty of raising LRH in his new form until he is ready to reprise his role. This would explain both his “lateness” and the sudden nature of Shelly’s disappearance but why authorities think she’s fine.

As I said, this is not my theory but might be worth discussion – the poster who wrote it said “it might be bat shit crazy, but so is Scientology – so who knows?”

Keep up the great work.

I know two people who claimed to have been Shakespeare in another LT. And one wrote a long poem in iambic pentameter to prove it. It was dueling pens. They both knew the other one claimed to be Shakespeare just like the one had because both were on the BC and pc folders were passed around and looked at by all the BC student auditors.

And let’s not forget that in all his humility LRH said he was the Buddha or Mettreya in another lifetime. Even wrote a musical poem about it.

I am happy you found LIFE outside the realm of the bubble of mind control & financial drain to escape what’s been drilled into you for years.

When we watched ALL the Aftermath series, read the books, seen & heard the TV documentaries & newspaper articles….time & time again, each time we viewed or read something a second or third time, we LEARNED something new & understood it even more fully.

As we sit here & think about Mike & the rest of the vast number of people who stopped drinking the Kool Aid, removed the rose colored glasses & actually SAW & UNDERSTOOD what this is all about. It was their/your OWN personal wake up call as to the reality of rethinking and considering “THIS can’t be ALL that’s available to ME?”.

CRITICAL THINKING….a CULT DOES NOT WANT YOU TO ACHIEVE THAT. Forbidden to view, read, listen to ANYTHING AGAINST their TENETS is a “serious offense”….because should you obtain THAT KIND of information, it might cause you to LEAVE & “they” can’t have that happen…a decline in membership & FINANICIAL DONATIONS is the DEATH KNELL to them…

The heartache of seeing Mike’s tears..still blaming himself because He “got them into this”….the burden of guilt he carries to this day & thetears over the disconnection by his eldest children……& the other former members REBUKED by their parents who now can’t have contact with their Grandkid…..my husband & I can’t imagine NEVER seeing or sharing a meal or day with our now adult children…let alone grandkids.

CUT OFF from your OWN loved ones as PUNISHMENT….Yes, that’s a control tactic many religions use to keep you in the fold…..it’s disgusting. How can one willingly walk away form a religion so ingrained & some from BIRTH….to CHOOSE freedom from OPPRESSION & FINANCIAL DRAIN…..having to leave one’s extended family to SAVE ONE’S SELF.

There “Mighty Mouth” is….alone….swigging his booze & not missing his wife SHELLEY….BTW WHERE IS SHE? I know if I were missing, my husband & family would move Heaven & Earth to FIND ME….he cares nothing about his OWN WIFE….he KNOWS where she is & how she is being treated because HE controls that.

I’ve said it before….YOU CAN’T SAVE SOMEONE WHO DOESN’T WANT TO BE SAVED……tragically that’s how it goes……all too sad.

David this is great! Really global.
I just saw that the cult now has some ‘going global’ campaign happening. Well what do you see? Just some Albanian guys or kids from Kenya with WTH booklets. What an impact. Something that tonight is already forgotten.
Only to be used for some event and to ask for donations.