I am in awe of the work you and others are doing, I cannot begin to fathom the courage it takes to speak out when the response is lawsuits and harassment. I’m here because I wanted to tell you that.

Really Mike gets on a great roll, “….befuddles….”

Thankyou so much Luke, and Mike for showing how important persons like Luke are.

In fact, you Mike, are a huge repeating whistleblower person, being the PR man for Scientology, and being the Scientology nasty branch boss for a couple decades.

And Leah, just the first ex Scientology celeb to stay doggedly on the Scientology story.

Well, all you three, Luke, Mike and Leah, one for one, couldn’t be better whistle blowers.

Luke’s helping officials, being on a Grand Jury, that is so much wished for, in the future.

Just an excellent podcast.

So much appreciated for all involved.

The chat sites of days of old, the 1990s, 2000s, all the contributing voices of reason, all the “never ins” who shared smart advice, thanks to everyone.

Here here! I agree with Miss Behavin

I agree on this with Mike. Plus, I try, too, to not get too much into slamming people, men or women, for outward appearance.

Ms. Kirstie has broken my heart, because I did absolutely find her humorous and talented. When I was in the group, seems like she was very sincere about finding help through Narconnon program and genuinely wanted others, who needed it, to get relief and help.

Besides comedy, people may not remember, she did a very well-received dramatic piece, too. TV movie “David’s Mother,” where she played a devoted mother with a special needs child (autistic), based on a true story. Excellent work. She was received for an Emmy for dramatic performance.

But, in the last couple decades, her presentation and image is often cantankerous and very self-absorbed, even for a celebrity.

I did sometimes have misgivings, over the years, as to HOW her ethics officer let her get away with some of her antagonistic public rants. I recall, when she was struggling with weight, Kirstie did a quite long interview with Oprah where she just whined & emoted, on and on, about unfairly she was being treated (by reporters). It seemed, to me, like something to work out privately without having to “dramatize” across the airwaves. By the group’s own standards, a violation of “No case on post.”

When Intelligence fails it becomes a PR matter.
When PR fails it becomes a Legal matter.
When Legal loses or declines it become an LRH matter.

But I think Mike missed the following paragraph that read like this:

When Intelligence falls below the cracks in the ceiling it becomes a matter for the wall inspectors.
When a Wall inspection falls below the floor it then becomes a floor inspection.
But when a floor inspection falls below the rocks and the bugs and the scum and the lowest of the low, it then becomes a matter for Little Davey Boy. Who else?

Thank you Bruce – means a lot coming from you. I can’t fathom what someone’s body would feel like, forget mental health at that point, after months or years on the Purif. For all those cleared in advance by Dr’s, I’d love to see a liver and renal panel AFTERWARDS!
I had forgotten how long Amy was forced to stay on the Purif. To me the scariest thing about much in Scientology isn’t even the individual crises they create for people, but that fear of how long this can go on so it may be better to just submit.
“The only way out for these guys is out.”
THIS.

I feel the extensive amount of fact checking and information you post here is likely responsible for many of those coming out. You have a way of being pragmatic without it shaming those who are just coming out. Not to mention your expertise and ability to speak the language – I think that’s what makes this blog so valuable. The posts get everyone thinking, but the subsequent expansion of the topic and placing it in context for someone still caught up… THAT is what has people reading here UTR for ages without you guys ever realizing the true number of those you’ve helped retake their lives!

Amethyst said, “Hiding out in Mexico”!

I don’t know exactly why, but that just makes me smile and laugh.

Smile and Laugh. The universe is working – at least in this one tiny area. It may well operate against us in a big way tomorrow. But, for now, it seems to me we really need to take any of the small victories we can get.

Amethyst. Thank you for your post. I enjoyed that. Smile and laugh – indeed!

Have a question for you. As a former addiction counselor, do you know of any in Southern Calif? Specifically near the cities of Glendora, San Dimas, Claremont, etc.? Someone very close to me struggles with addiction and needs help. Would appreciate any help with that. Thanks.