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	Comments on: Episode 22: Geoff Levin Musician, a Founder of Celebrity Centre	</title>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2021 13:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376202&quot;&gt;Peridot&lt;/a&gt;.

Peridot,
  Your last paragraph was an accurate, dry assessment of scamology&#039;s inherent tackyness and lack of aesthetic sophistication. It WAS, after all, created by a Crowleyian, narcissistic hack and con man...
   It&#039;s ironic, in a darkly humorous and somewhat sad way, how many total
wankers, posers, and talentless amateurs in the cult call themselves &quot;artists&quot; and profess a deep love of and respect for art and artists, based on their own Flubtard-fueled delusions of grandeur and utter lack of ability to actually create anything artistic...And this madness manifests in the cult&#039;s consistent, policy-driven, organizational disrespect for and abuse of artists.

Regarding the podcast: I listened to the whole thing. Definitely worth checking out! Best Wishes to Geoff and his creative coohorts and loved ones! 
Thanks to Mike and Leah and crew for the podcast-carry on!<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d-1f3fd.png" alt="👍🏽" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2665.png" alt="♥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/270c-1f3fe.png" alt="✌🏾" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376202">Peridot</a>.</p>
<p>Peridot,<br />
  Your last paragraph was an accurate, dry assessment of scamology&#8217;s inherent tackyness and lack of aesthetic sophistication. It WAS, after all, created by a Crowleyian, narcissistic hack and con man&#8230;<br />
   It&#8217;s ironic, in a darkly humorous and somewhat sad way, how many total<br />
wankers, posers, and talentless amateurs in the cult call themselves &#8220;artists&#8221; and profess a deep love of and respect for art and artists, based on their own Flubtard-fueled delusions of grandeur and utter lack of ability to actually create anything artistic&#8230;And this madness manifests in the cult&#8217;s consistent, policy-driven, organizational disrespect for and abuse of artists.</p>
<p>Regarding the podcast: I listened to the whole thing. Definitely worth checking out! Best Wishes to Geoff and his creative coohorts and loved ones!<br />
Thanks to Mike and Leah and crew for the podcast-carry on!👍🏽♥️✌🏾😎</p>
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		By: Loosing my Religion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loosing my Religion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376357&quot;&gt;Ludo Vermeulen&lt;/a&gt;.

Ludo so true. Amongst all the contradictions belonging to scn this is one of the biggest. And it should make people think what this cult is all about. .
Same for those who are told that until they have a reactive mind they will make overts. But then is the person to be punished and be guity Then once they are clear this doesn&#039;t change anyway. 
In the sea org I&#039;ve see how one can be blamed and blasted for any micro thing. And who does conditions and gets punishments is the guy no his &#039;entities&#039;. Nobody cares about it. 
Very good comment indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376357">Ludo Vermeulen</a>.</p>
<p>Ludo so true. Amongst all the contradictions belonging to scn this is one of the biggest. And it should make people think what this cult is all about. .<br />
Same for those who are told that until they have a reactive mind they will make overts. But then is the person to be punished and be guity Then once they are clear this doesn&#8217;t change anyway.<br />
In the sea org I&#8217;ve see how one can be blamed and blasted for any micro thing. And who does conditions and gets punishments is the guy no his &#8216;entities&#8217;. Nobody cares about it.<br />
Very good comment indeed.</p>
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		By: Loosing my Religion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 12:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376359&quot;&gt;Jeff Hawkins&lt;/a&gt;.

Jeff I remember well that campaign. It was a perfect marketing campaign. It created a boom also here in Italy.
Now time to time I see  they try again to launch a Dianetics campaign but it is always a solemn failure.
They consider it a huge win when a bookstore accepts their books.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376359">Jeff Hawkins</a>.</p>
<p>Jeff I remember well that campaign. It was a perfect marketing campaign. It created a boom also here in Italy.<br />
Now time to time I see  they try again to launch a Dianetics campaign but it is always a solemn failure.<br />
They consider it a huge win when a bookstore accepts their books.</p>
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		By: Jeff Hawkins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Hawkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 03:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great to hear Geoff&#039;s story! Geoff is such a talented musician and a great friend. People may not know that Geoff was the guy who composed the music for me for the 1980&#039;s Dianetics &quot;Questions&quot; TV ads. Those ads sold more books than anything else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to hear Geoff&#8217;s story! Geoff is such a talented musician and a great friend. People may not know that Geoff was the guy who composed the music for me for the 1980&#8217;s Dianetics &#8220;Questions&#8221; TV ads. Those ads sold more books than anything else.</p>
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		By: Ludo Vermeulen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 02:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you truly believe that “your thoughts are not your thoughts”, you can not blame anyone for his/her thoughts nor behavior and that’s the end of the whole SP doctrine, disconnection, fair game, “psychs are the source of all evil”, “Xenu did us all in”, in other words the core scientology practice. There are no enemies left to condemn. Fight perhaps to protect yourself, but condemn certainly not. It opens the door for something unknown to scientology and that is compassion. “Forgive them Father, for they don’t know what they are doing.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you truly believe that “your thoughts are not your thoughts”, you can not blame anyone for his/her thoughts nor behavior and that’s the end of the whole SP doctrine, disconnection, fair game, “psychs are the source of all evil”, “Xenu did us all in”, in other words the core scientology practice. There are no enemies left to condemn. Fight perhaps to protect yourself, but condemn certainly not. It opens the door for something unknown to scientology and that is compassion. “Forgive them Father, for they don’t know what they are doing.”</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376332</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rip Van Winkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2021 22:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376126&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

Ooooops. My mistake - - - not Hawkins.  

I get my Geoffs / Jeffersons mixed. :)  

But though this didn&#039;t feature who I was expecting, it was still a heart wrencher.

I&#039;m glad he&#039;s out and doing better.

Thanks for the podcast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376126">Rip Van Winkle</a>.</p>
<p>Ooooops. My mistake &#8211; &#8211; &#8211; not Hawkins.  </p>
<p>I get my Geoffs / Jeffersons mixed. 🙂  </p>
<p>But though this didn&#8217;t feature who I was expecting, it was still a heart wrencher.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad he&#8217;s out and doing better.</p>
<p>Thanks for the podcast.</p>
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		By: Marie guerin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marie guerin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2021 22:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I haven’t listened to this episode yet , I will . But my daughter did and it confirmed my own story to her in a way I never seemed to be able to really get through. From the tactics of Julian and the ethics officer to the danger of the ot levels , this hole we find ourselves into and can’t get out of.
Being able to lie our way through an ethics interview or sec checking was further proof to me that ultimately they didn’t own me , I could outsmart them ....until I couldn’t of course and the declare order sealed my fate as far as disconnection , but the relief that comes with it is undeniable . 
Thank you for sharing your story , heartbreaking but hopeful in the end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven’t listened to this episode yet , I will . But my daughter did and it confirmed my own story to her in a way I never seemed to be able to really get through. From the tactics of Julian and the ethics officer to the danger of the ot levels , this hole we find ourselves into and can’t get out of.<br />
Being able to lie our way through an ethics interview or sec checking was further proof to me that ultimately they didn’t own me , I could outsmart them &#8230;.until I couldn’t of course and the declare order sealed my fate as far as disconnection , but the relief that comes with it is undeniable .<br />
Thank you for sharing your story , heartbreaking but hopeful in the end.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2021 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376297&quot;&gt;ISNOINews&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks so much. Fixed now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-22-geoff-levin-musician-a-founder-of-celebrity-centre/#comment-376297">ISNOINews</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks so much. Fixed now.</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2021 19:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the touching episode.  Wish Geoff well as he continues to heal from his years in Scientology.  

At one point while listening to this, I couldn&#039;t help but wonder why Scientologists aren&#039;t more empathetic toward others, since our thoughts aren&#039;t our own but the result of some thetan inside of us.  But, as I learn more about Scientology, it seems to boil down to a way to controlling individuals so they hand over their money. Other considerations seem like collateral damage. 

By the way, the week after Xmas, my son and I climbed some peaks in Mojave.  Afterward, we took a southern detour so we could check out Mt. Jacinto (My son wants to hike the PCT after high school) and drive through Hemet.  Before your shows, we probably just would have focused on the tacky castle and made a joke.  But, as we drove through Gold Base, past the security personnel, my son and I couldn&#039;t help but wonder what suffering people were enduring behind those fences. 

Thanks again for opening our eyes and hearts!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the touching episode.  Wish Geoff well as he continues to heal from his years in Scientology.  </p>
<p>At one point while listening to this, I couldn&#8217;t help but wonder why Scientologists aren&#8217;t more empathetic toward others, since our thoughts aren&#8217;t our own but the result of some thetan inside of us.  But, as I learn more about Scientology, it seems to boil down to a way to controlling individuals so they hand over their money. Other considerations seem like collateral damage. </p>
<p>By the way, the week after Xmas, my son and I climbed some peaks in Mojave.  Afterward, we took a southern detour so we could check out Mt. Jacinto (My son wants to hike the PCT after high school) and drive through Hemet.  Before your shows, we probably just would have focused on the tacky castle and made a joke.  But, as we drove through Gold Base, past the security personnel, my son and I couldn&#8217;t help but wonder what suffering people were enduring behind those fences. </p>
<p>Thanks again for opening our eyes and hearts!</p>
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		By: Loosing my Religion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loosing my Religion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2021 19:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoff thank you very much for sharing such experiences. 
Scn is really a trap for good people. Most of those who take the bait are just good people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff thank you very much for sharing such experiences.<br />
Scn is really a trap for good people. Most of those who take the bait are just good people.</p>
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