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	Comments on: Episode 28: Cultbusting Attorney Ford Greene	</title>
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		By: Ford Greene		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ford Greene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2021 04:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382082&quot;&gt;Mary Kahn&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you very much, Mary, for accurately appreciating me!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382082">Mary Kahn</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you very much, Mary, for accurately appreciating me!</p>
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		By: Ford Greene		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ford Greene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 05:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382001&quot;&gt;Zee Moo&lt;/a&gt;.

That’s why scientology paid the Wollersheim judgment on the very morning a 10-day evidentiary hearing in Los Angeles Superior Court was set to commence. The subject of that hearing was teed up to be the breadth and depth of Sea Org control over all scientology. Miscavige blinked as he did not want either our road map to become public or the judge agreeing that our view was accurate. Thus, Miscavige ordered payment of almost $8.7 million instead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382001">Zee Moo</a>.</p>
<p>That’s why scientology paid the Wollersheim judgment on the very morning a 10-day evidentiary hearing in Los Angeles Superior Court was set to commence. The subject of that hearing was teed up to be the breadth and depth of Sea Org control over all scientology. Miscavige blinked as he did not want either our road map to become public or the judge agreeing that our view was accurate. Thus, Miscavige ordered payment of almost $8.7 million instead.</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales Bill Straass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 20:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-381972&quot;&gt;Loosing my Religion&lt;/a&gt;.

Not only that, Loosing, but if the Committee members were to find otherwise after their investigation of the matter and were to be so impertinent as to say so in their findings they would find themselves in a bad situation. If they fail to agree with the Convening Authority who wanted the Interested Party shot, they will find themselves standing against a brick wall. Now the Convening Authority may well be in a similar pickle. His or her senior or their seniors may be behind the whole thing. This is how a great guy like Mike Rinder once &quot;destroyed those the church wanted destroyed&quot;. And how yours truly, before he kept the Freewinds going, once kept the trains going to Treblinka.
     Heil Miscaviage!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-381972">Loosing my Religion</a>.</p>
<p>Not only that, Loosing, but if the Committee members were to find otherwise after their investigation of the matter and were to be so impertinent as to say so in their findings they would find themselves in a bad situation. If they fail to agree with the Convening Authority who wanted the Interested Party shot, they will find themselves standing against a brick wall. Now the Convening Authority may well be in a similar pickle. His or her senior or their seniors may be behind the whole thing. This is how a great guy like Mike Rinder once &#8220;destroyed those the church wanted destroyed&#8221;. And how yours truly, before he kept the Freewinds going, once kept the trains going to Treblinka.<br />
     Heil Miscaviage!</p>
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		By: Coffee cup		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coffee cup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 12:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent as always. The Firm comparison made me laugh seeing how Tom Cruise is the one who brings the Firm down!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent as always. The Firm comparison made me laugh seeing how Tom Cruise is the one who brings the Firm down!</p>
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		By: Skyler23		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler23]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 03:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382236&quot;&gt;Skyler23&lt;/a&gt;.

This quote does not exactly apply to our situation because this elderly man (oops. sorry. he was a doctor and not a lawyer. He was being paid to testify to help Paul Newman&#039;s team).

It does not exactly apply because he was talking about a jury and he was saying that ordinary people (like the people on this jury) can often possess a strong ability to see through all the legal mumbo jumbo and recognize the truth.

I would hope that one day one of these judges will finally understand the truth about this cult and understand their position on the first ammendment is just a device to bolster their ability to avoid being sued.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382236">Skyler23</a>.</p>
<p>This quote does not exactly apply to our situation because this elderly man (oops. sorry. he was a doctor and not a lawyer. He was being paid to testify to help Paul Newman&#8217;s team).</p>
<p>It does not exactly apply because he was talking about a jury and he was saying that ordinary people (like the people on this jury) can often possess a strong ability to see through all the legal mumbo jumbo and recognize the truth.</p>
<p>I would hope that one day one of these judges will finally understand the truth about this cult and understand their position on the first ammendment is just a device to bolster their ability to avoid being sued.</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peridot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 01:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382204&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

To blog community participant &quot;Mike,&quot; as a fellow participant in this blog community, I read your message as a robust &quot;Hear, hear - You guys are powerful and unstoppable, up the game [if you are not already*].&quot; 

I put an &quot;*&quot; here because there are things Leah and Mike do behind the scenes that the rest of us don&#039;t know about. Where we can take action to support, Mike is explicit, such as providing the list of US congress members on the legislative committee deliberating un-doing forced arbitration agreements; inviting us to call, email, or write letters.

I hear what you are putting forward, the urgency and need to be willing to bring what it takes, the credo: &quot;Don&#039;t bring a knife to gunfight.&quot;  

Perhaps in Sea Org Scientologese, we would say, &quot;Don&#039;t bring a plate of rice and beans to a five-star chef plated multi-course dinner.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382204">Mike</a>.</p>
<p>To blog community participant &#8220;Mike,&#8221; as a fellow participant in this blog community, I read your message as a robust &#8220;Hear, hear &#8211; You guys are powerful and unstoppable, up the game [if you are not already*].&#8221; </p>
<p>I put an &#8220;*&#8221; here because there are things Leah and Mike do behind the scenes that the rest of us don&#8217;t know about. Where we can take action to support, Mike is explicit, such as providing the list of US congress members on the legislative committee deliberating un-doing forced arbitration agreements; inviting us to call, email, or write letters.</p>
<p>I hear what you are putting forward, the urgency and need to be willing to bring what it takes, the credo: &#8220;Don&#8217;t bring a knife to gunfight.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Perhaps in Sea Org Scientologese, we would say, &#8220;Don&#8217;t bring a plate of rice and beans to a five-star chef plated multi-course dinner.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Skyler23		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler23]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 23:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382138&quot;&gt;Priscilla&lt;/a&gt;.

Priscilla?

Did you ever see the movie &quot;The Verdict&quot;? I am not a lawyer but there is one quote from that movie that I really love and I hope it may apply here.

One elderly lawyer told the lead lawyer (played by Paul Newman), &quot;People have an uncanny ability to see through the tangle to find the truth.&quot;

It was words to that effect and I&#039;ve always remembered that. Eventually, one of these judges will understand the issues and will see through to the truth and then, I hope, the blocks will all come tumbling down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382138">Priscilla</a>.</p>
<p>Priscilla?</p>
<p>Did you ever see the movie &#8220;The Verdict&#8221;? I am not a lawyer but there is one quote from that movie that I really love and I hope it may apply here.</p>
<p>One elderly lawyer told the lead lawyer (played by Paul Newman), &#8220;People have an uncanny ability to see through the tangle to find the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was words to that effect and I&#8217;ve always remembered that. Eventually, one of these judges will understand the issues and will see through to the truth and then, I hope, the blocks will all come tumbling down.</p>
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		By: Nina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent interview!  I’ve listened to every one of the Fairgame podcast episodes. His perspective from a legal standpoint was very interesting.  It still amazes me that Scientology is still around.  Should have been shut down a long time ago, and certainly should have never been given tax exempt status.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent interview!  I’ve listened to every one of the Fairgame podcast episodes. His perspective from a legal standpoint was very interesting.  It still amazes me that Scientology is still around.  Should have been shut down a long time ago, and certainly should have never been given tax exempt status.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 17:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382198&quot;&gt;Peridot&lt;/a&gt;.

Hear, hear!  (or is it Here, here?). Rereading some of the above I just want to say, I do not mean to put down you guys airing people&#039;s (horrific) experiences, just more to say - Mike: more &#039;Head of OSA&#039; tone 40, less &quot;LeeLee&quot; ... ya sure know DM &#038; crew ain&#039;t gonna be pulling any punches, his whole existence is at stake!

:)

#legalATeam]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382198">Peridot</a>.</p>
<p>Hear, hear!  (or is it Here, here?). Rereading some of the above I just want to say, I do not mean to put down you guys airing people&#8217;s (horrific) experiences, just more to say &#8211; Mike: more &#8216;Head of OSA&#8217; tone 40, less &#8220;LeeLee&#8221; &#8230; ya sure know DM &amp; crew ain&#8217;t gonna be pulling any punches, his whole existence is at stake!</p>
<p>🙂</p>
<p>#legalATeam</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peridot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382191&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

I am rallying around these bold points made by blog participant &quot;Mike&quot; to our blog maestro and catalyzing force, Mike Rinder.  The team of Leah and Mike is filled with superpowers. The piercing and precise revelations from attorney Ford Greene, and the other gentleman to whom you&#039;ve talked based in Texas, attorney Ray Jeffrey: Could they be brought to preside over, as this Mike describes, an A-Team of hungry, super educated lawyers to extract the rest of the necessary blocks in this Jenga game? Get Taylor Holley on this team, with her cogent mind.

We know, Mike Rinder, you must hear this every week, so I will simply add to it: a memoir you would write would be stunningly well-received. Some of the stuff you lay down that you saw or participated in, it&#039;s jaw-dropping and always revelatory.

We are all here to support you, Leah, the Aftermath Foundation, Chrissie Carnell-Bixler and the other three women, Valerie, the Garcia&#039;s, everyone who appeared on the &quot;Aftermath&quot; show and is coming onto the &quot;Fair Game&quot; podcast. We will keep writing our public officials, paying attention, inviting more and more people to tune into the &quot;Aftermath&quot; series and &quot;Fair Game&quot; podcasts, and finding ways to participate in the forward motion.

Transformation is afoot. #exposure]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-28-cultbusting-attorney-ford-greene/#comment-382191">Mike</a>.</p>
<p>I am rallying around these bold points made by blog participant &#8220;Mike&#8221; to our blog maestro and catalyzing force, Mike Rinder.  The team of Leah and Mike is filled with superpowers. The piercing and precise revelations from attorney Ford Greene, and the other gentleman to whom you&#8217;ve talked based in Texas, attorney Ray Jeffrey: Could they be brought to preside over, as this Mike describes, an A-Team of hungry, super educated lawyers to extract the rest of the necessary blocks in this Jenga game? Get Taylor Holley on this team, with her cogent mind.</p>
<p>We know, Mike Rinder, you must hear this every week, so I will simply add to it: a memoir you would write would be stunningly well-received. Some of the stuff you lay down that you saw or participated in, it&#8217;s jaw-dropping and always revelatory.</p>
<p>We are all here to support you, Leah, the Aftermath Foundation, Chrissie Carnell-Bixler and the other three women, Valerie, the Garcia&#8217;s, everyone who appeared on the &#8220;Aftermath&#8221; show and is coming onto the &#8220;Fair Game&#8221; podcast. We will keep writing our public officials, paying attention, inviting more and more people to tune into the &#8220;Aftermath&#8221; series and &#8220;Fair Game&#8221; podcasts, and finding ways to participate in the forward motion.</p>
<p>Transformation is afoot. #exposure</p>
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