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	Comments on: Episode 62: The Aftermath OG Amy Scobee	</title>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 07:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-443845&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I think it&#039;s likely Travolta is actually bisexual.  But scientology is so stuck in the 50s, and in some ways the Victorian era Nebraska of Hubbard&#039;s formative years, that they have no way to account for anything that&#039;s not conventionally black and white - even though, if you think about it, thetans aren&#039;t gendered to begin with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-443845">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s likely Travolta is actually bisexual.  But scientology is so stuck in the 50s, and in some ways the Victorian era Nebraska of Hubbard&#8217;s formative years, that they have no way to account for anything that&#8217;s not conventionally black and white &#8211; even though, if you think about it, thetans aren&#8217;t gendered to begin with.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 01:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-443834&quot;&gt;Rob&lt;/a&gt;.

The problem for scientology is that Hubbard says that being gay is low-toned (1.1) and that scientology auditing raises a person on the Tone Scale. Both Travolta and Cruise have had about as much auditing as a person can get. If they are still chronically 1.1, then the two poster children for scientology success suddenly become proof of its failure.

There is plenty of evidence that JT has had relationships with men.

None with respect to Cruise. His problems have always been with women.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-443834">Rob</a>.</p>
<p>The problem for scientology is that Hubbard says that being gay is low-toned (1.1) and that scientology auditing raises a person on the Tone Scale. Both Travolta and Cruise have had about as much auditing as a person can get. If they are still chronically 1.1, then the two poster children for scientology success suddenly become proof of its failure.</p>
<p>There is plenty of evidence that JT has had relationships with men.</p>
<p>None with respect to Cruise. His problems have always been with women.</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 00:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking about the story of the leaked video of men having sex and if it would hurt scientology. There have been rumours of John Travolta and Tom Cruise being gay for years.  

What would happen if that was true? I heard through a reliable friend that Tom is actually gay. My friend worked in advertising and got to meet Tom and one of his inner circle friends had too much to drink and started telling stories about Tom. I don&#039;t know how reliable that is and who really cares, but what would happen if that came out as truth about Tom?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking about the story of the leaked video of men having sex and if it would hurt scientology. There have been rumours of John Travolta and Tom Cruise being gay for years.  </p>
<p>What would happen if that was true? I heard through a reliable friend that Tom is actually gay. My friend worked in advertising and got to meet Tom and one of his inner circle friends had too much to drink and started telling stories about Tom. I don&#8217;t know how reliable that is and who really cares, but what would happen if that came out as truth about Tom?</p>
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		By: Mariel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 04:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I heard of Scientology from following Tom Cruise.  I am a huge fan since from his Risky Business movie days, and then especially when Top Gun came out, and succeeding ones.  

As with most of Filipinos, I was raised -and still am- a Catholic.  

When I heard of Tom&#039;s &quot;religion&quot;, it saddened me then that there was no Scientology in the Philippines.    Because then, I was thinking, if I joined that religion, there might be a very slim chance - but still a chance! - that I will meet him in person.  Typical mindset of a fan.

Fast forward to 2017, I saw your Aftermath show on cable TV, and it piqued my interest because for me, Scientology=Tom Cruise! I thought, &#039;finally, here is a show that would explain Scientology to me.&#039; Not knowing that oh, wow... how it explained it!  

I was hooked.  Every episode of the Aftermath was an eye opener for me, and the thinking, &quot;how could someone get and stay in there?&quot;, but finally, saying a prayer of thanks - &quot;I thank God that there was no Scientology when I thought I needed it!&quot;

Now, I listen to your podcasts with interest, like listening to made-up novels... but realizing that they have happened, and maybe are still happening... and getting down on my knees to pray for all those who are affected by the establishment of this organization.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard of Scientology from following Tom Cruise.  I am a huge fan since from his Risky Business movie days, and then especially when Top Gun came out, and succeeding ones.  </p>
<p>As with most of Filipinos, I was raised -and still am- a Catholic.  </p>
<p>When I heard of Tom&#8217;s &#8220;religion&#8221;, it saddened me then that there was no Scientology in the Philippines.    Because then, I was thinking, if I joined that religion, there might be a very slim chance &#8211; but still a chance! &#8211; that I will meet him in person.  Typical mindset of a fan.</p>
<p>Fast forward to 2017, I saw your Aftermath show on cable TV, and it piqued my interest because for me, Scientology=Tom Cruise! I thought, &#8216;finally, here is a show that would explain Scientology to me.&#8217; Not knowing that oh, wow&#8230; how it explained it!  </p>
<p>I was hooked.  Every episode of the Aftermath was an eye opener for me, and the thinking, &#8220;how could someone get and stay in there?&#8221;, but finally, saying a prayer of thanks &#8211; &#8220;I thank God that there was no Scientology when I thought I needed it!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, I listen to your podcasts with interest, like listening to made-up novels&#8230; but realizing that they have happened, and maybe are still happening&#8230; and getting down on my knees to pray for all those who are affected by the establishment of this organization.</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peridot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-421159&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

To @Aquamarine - Madness!!!!!!!!  I hear you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-421159">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>To @Aquamarine &#8211; Madness!!!!!!!!  I hear you.</p>
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		By: Mechelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mechelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2021 00:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-420728&quot;&gt;Karen Sharkey&lt;/a&gt;.

Doesnt Tom Cruise say Hubbard&#039;s technology helped him with dyslexia?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-420728">Karen Sharkey</a>.</p>
<p>Doesnt Tom Cruise say Hubbard&#8217;s technology helped him with dyslexia?</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-421537&quot;&gt;Ascended&lt;/a&gt;.

QAnon.  A Far-Right conspiracy theory and movement group composed of anonymous individuals.  Google = your friend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-421537">Ascended</a>.</p>
<p>QAnon.  A Far-Right conspiracy theory and movement group composed of anonymous individuals.  Google = your friend.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-421573&quot;&gt;Jens TINGLEFF&lt;/a&gt;.

Jens, thank you for expanding on your thoughts, and I wholly agree with them.  As for using the word &quot;TRs&quot; I am not invested in using this term.  I only use it because I don&#039;t know what else to call them.  Thanks also for the book recommendation.  Its on my list of potential reads now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-421573">Jens TINGLEFF</a>.</p>
<p>Jens, thank you for expanding on your thoughts, and I wholly agree with them.  As for using the word &#8220;TRs&#8221; I am not invested in using this term.  I only use it because I don&#8217;t know what else to call them.  Thanks also for the book recommendation.  Its on my list of potential reads now.</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jens TINGLEFF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 13:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-421212&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Quite right.

And what I&#039;m getting at is that what makes TRs different from good communications and what makes Word Clearing different from using a dictionary is the INTENT, when used inside the criminal organisation known as the &quot;church&quot; of $cientology. In other words, what the Co$ adds to common sense is the intent, and that&#039;s why I have a serious problem with people saying &quot;I find a lot of good things in TRs/Word-Clearing.&quot; I hope what they mean is that they have salvaged the common sense part of those two Co$ processes and arrived at common sense practices which are not intended to be - in a word - evil.

And if one has to explain that &quot;what I like is the TRs without the evil intent&quot; why use the word TRs in the first place? 

Anyway, the misuse of communications to control (in a bad way) is hardly unique to the Co$. I totally recommend the book &quot;Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion&quot; by Cialdini.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-421212">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Quite right.</p>
<p>And what I&#8217;m getting at is that what makes TRs different from good communications and what makes Word Clearing different from using a dictionary is the INTENT, when used inside the criminal organisation known as the &#8220;church&#8221; of $cientology. In other words, what the Co$ adds to common sense is the intent, and that&#8217;s why I have a serious problem with people saying &#8220;I find a lot of good things in TRs/Word-Clearing.&#8221; I hope what they mean is that they have salvaged the common sense part of those two Co$ processes and arrived at common sense practices which are not intended to be &#8211; in a word &#8211; evil.</p>
<p>And if one has to explain that &#8220;what I like is the TRs without the evil intent&#8221; why use the word TRs in the first place? </p>
<p>Anyway, the misuse of communications to control (in a bad way) is hardly unique to the Co$. I totally recommend the book &#8220;Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion&#8221; by Cialdini.</p>
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		By: Ascended		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ascended]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 11:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-420838&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello,

What is &#039;Q&#039; ?

Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-62-the-aftermath-og-amy-scobee/#comment-420838">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Hello,</p>
<p>What is &#8216;Q&#8217; ?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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