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		By: Episode 73 &#8212; Operation Clambake Founder Andreas Heldal-Lund		</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and why and some of the key things that have happened along the way. If you listened to our recent episode with Tory Christman you will know Andreas played a significant role in Tory escaping scientology. He was also [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 20:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-430521&quot;&gt;Tory Christman&lt;/a&gt;.

Note: if this is a duplicate... Please don&#039;t post it. Just post the first one, unless it is a very different communication. 
Thank you! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f339.png" alt="🌹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-430521">Tory Christman</a>.</p>
<p>Note: if this is a duplicate&#8230; Please don&#8217;t post it. Just post the first one, unless it is a very different communication.<br />
Thank you! 🌹</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 20:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very true, Marie. Once I realized OSA wasn&#039;t &quot;getting rid of evil people&quot;, as they had told me those accounts would do. Once I realized they were really, systematically stopping free speech, that began my waking up. (It really wasn&#039;t until that night, when I went to &quot;just do a de-brief, telling us what happened&quot; per my auditor and then still trusted friend.
     At that meeting, when all these men, including Bill Yaude began screaming at me.... The second I snapped and ran out .. that was the END of my trust with Yaude, and the End of my willing to work with OSA. That was
TOTAL TREASON in my book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true, Marie. Once I realized OSA wasn&#8217;t &#8220;getting rid of evil people&#8221;, as they had told me those accounts would do. Once I realized they were really, systematically stopping free speech, that began my waking up. (It really wasn&#8217;t until that night, when I went to &#8220;just do a de-brief, telling us what happened&#8221; per my auditor and then still trusted friend.<br />
     At that meeting, when all these men, including Bill Yaude began screaming at me&#8230;. The second I snapped and ran out .. that was the END of my trust with Yaude, and the End of my willing to work with OSA. That was<br />
TOTAL TREASON in my book.</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-430514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 20:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-430286&quot;&gt;Tory Christman&lt;/a&gt;.

My YouTube site, for any who missed the above link (thank you Mike for posting that)
Is:
1) go to YouTube
2) type in the search bar ToryMagoo44
That&#039;s it! 

http:www. YouTube. com/ToryMagoo44
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f339.png" alt="🌹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-430286">Tory Christman</a>.</p>
<p>My YouTube site, for any who missed the above link (thank you Mike for posting that)<br />
Is:<br />
1) go to YouTube<br />
2) type in the search bar ToryMagoo44<br />
That&#8217;s it! </p>
<p>http:www. YouTube. com/ToryMagoo44<br />
🌹</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-430509</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 20:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-430468&quot;&gt;Peridot&lt;/a&gt;.

You are most welcome &quot;Peridot&quot;. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-430468">Peridot</a>.</p>
<p>You are most welcome &#8220;Peridot&#8221;. 👍</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 17:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tory, You can see by the abundance of affection expressed here, many of us were keenly interested to hear you featured in the Leah &#038; Mike Scientology Fair Game Podcast. Each step you have taken and all that you so willingly share is greatly appreciated. I have benefited from reading every single post in this blog entry. You can see how your story details prompt other Former-Ins to share their experiences as well. 

While in, I was a good citizen who followed the firm orders to not look at anything counter to Scientology. Being out and learning all these things -- listening, viewing, reading memoirs written, including Leah&#039;s excellent memoir-- is alarming. 

Each of us who were formerly in had one or more dreadful encounters with staff and Sea Org that align with what you and others describe. One of the key encounters I had finally showed me the true nature of the group, its true &quot;emotional tone&quot; as it were, rather than its &quot;social veneer.&quot; 

It was chilling, how his address of me penetrated into my bones. It was what I imagined the situation would be like if I was in an arrangement with a bloodthirsty loan shark, an agent of a dark criminal operation set up to victimize people and willing to terrorize. 

As you know, one can not speak openly of this while in the group, because then you are &quot;nattering&quot; about a &quot;senior executive&quot; and you, even as a public, are being &quot;counter-intention&quot; to the almighty &quot;command intention.&quot;

I found that encounter traumatizing; it lingered. Later I realized that dude did me a favor. After I got out, I could see how his brutal (emotional, verbal) treatment of me had a catalyzing effect for me to see: This is NOT a nice group and I need to STOP in my mind sugarcoating the realities.

With each step hearing about and reading about others&#039; experiences, I see more clearly what a true cult this is. Very complex, because of the way in which it is set up so we trap ourselves. 

Thank you, Tory, for all you have done and the courage you demonstrate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tory, You can see by the abundance of affection expressed here, many of us were keenly interested to hear you featured in the Leah &amp; Mike Scientology Fair Game Podcast. Each step you have taken and all that you so willingly share is greatly appreciated. I have benefited from reading every single post in this blog entry. You can see how your story details prompt other Former-Ins to share their experiences as well. </p>
<p>While in, I was a good citizen who followed the firm orders to not look at anything counter to Scientology. Being out and learning all these things &#8212; listening, viewing, reading memoirs written, including Leah&#8217;s excellent memoir&#8211; is alarming. </p>
<p>Each of us who were formerly in had one or more dreadful encounters with staff and Sea Org that align with what you and others describe. One of the key encounters I had finally showed me the true nature of the group, its true &#8220;emotional tone&#8221; as it were, rather than its &#8220;social veneer.&#8221; </p>
<p>It was chilling, how his address of me penetrated into my bones. It was what I imagined the situation would be like if I was in an arrangement with a bloodthirsty loan shark, an agent of a dark criminal operation set up to victimize people and willing to terrorize. </p>
<p>As you know, one can not speak openly of this while in the group, because then you are &#8220;nattering&#8221; about a &#8220;senior executive&#8221; and you, even as a public, are being &#8220;counter-intention&#8221; to the almighty &#8220;command intention.&#8221;</p>
<p>I found that encounter traumatizing; it lingered. Later I realized that dude did me a favor. After I got out, I could see how his brutal (emotional, verbal) treatment of me had a catalyzing effect for me to see: This is NOT a nice group and I need to STOP in my mind sugarcoating the realities.</p>
<p>With each step hearing about and reading about others&#8217; experiences, I see more clearly what a true cult this is. Very complex, because of the way in which it is set up so we trap ourselves. </p>
<p>Thank you, Tory, for all you have done and the courage you demonstrate.</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 10:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few key points:
   I was not on staff at Narconon.
I worked at Narconon, International for a few months.
    After the Sea Org, I joined Celebrity Center as a non sea org (NSO) staff. I audited there. Once they cancelled NSO, I then joined AOLA NSO, and audited there until I had to leave to give birth to our wonderful son.
   I also worked at a number of W.I.S.E companies where the last one got super abusive.

    In 1989 my Mother-in-law paid $200,000 for our OT 5-8. I was told &quot;You are not allowed on the Flag Land Base&quot;. I took on the entire base..and insisted all my folders be sent to RTC.
One month later the entire Flag Land Base tech terminals (people) were crammed/corrected on their false info re medicine.
    There&#039;s more, but those are key things that happened while &quot;in&quot; Scientology 
    Also there are tons of Fair Game
Things Scientology did to me.
     Thanks for listening! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2665.png" alt="♥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />
And super thanks to Mike &#038; Leah. <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f339.png" alt="🌹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few key points:<br />
   I was not on staff at Narconon.<br />
I worked at Narconon, International for a few months.<br />
    After the Sea Org, I joined Celebrity Center as a non sea org (NSO) staff. I audited there. Once they cancelled NSO, I then joined AOLA NSO, and audited there until I had to leave to give birth to our wonderful son.<br />
   I also worked at a number of W.I.S.E companies where the last one got super abusive.</p>
<p>    In 1989 my Mother-in-law paid $200,000 for our OT 5-8. I was told &#8220;You are not allowed on the Flag Land Base&#8221;. I took on the entire base..and insisted all my folders be sent to RTC.<br />
One month later the entire Flag Land Base tech terminals (people) were crammed/corrected on their false info re medicine.<br />
    There&#8217;s more, but those are key things that happened while &#8220;in&#8221; Scientology<br />
    Also there are tons of Fair Game<br />
Things Scientology did to me.<br />
     Thanks for listening! ♥️<br />
And super thanks to Mike &amp; Leah. 🌹</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-430298</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 09:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-428096&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Awww... Thank you Mike! I feel the same about you

     Much love,
        Tory/Magoo <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f339.png" alt="🌹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-428096">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Awww&#8230; Thank you Mike! I feel the same about you</p>
<p>     Much love,<br />
        Tory/Magoo 🌹</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 09:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-428124&quot;&gt;Geoff Levin&lt;/a&gt;.

Jeff,
    God I love you! I have known and admired you &#038; your music since the 70&#039;s
At the original Celebrity Center. Boy those were amazing days! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60a.png" alt="😊" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />
   My best to you,
       Tory/Magoo <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f49c.png" alt="💜" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-428124">Geoff Levin</a>.</p>
<p>Jeff,<br />
    God I love you! I have known and admired you &amp; your music since the 70&#8217;s<br />
At the original Celebrity Center. Boy those were amazing days! 😊<br />
   My best to you,<br />
       Tory/Magoo 💜</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 09:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-428163&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you so much Real!
Are you RS?! If so, I&#039;ve loved meeting you!I <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f49c.png" alt="💜" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />

t&#039;s true! We did OT5-7.
Miscavige then announced at an event:
&quot;The reason the OT 7&#039;s are screwed up is because we trained them wrong&quot;
    We were then routed to regges who told us&quot; you need to pay $25,000 to re-do it&quot;. No kidding! <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f975.png" alt="🥵" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-64-tory-magoo-christman/#comment-428163">Real</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you so much Real!<br />
Are you RS?! If so, I&#8217;ve loved meeting you!I 💜</p>
<p>t&#8217;s true! We did OT5-7.<br />
Miscavige then announced at an event:<br />
&#8220;The reason the OT 7&#8217;s are screwed up is because we trained them wrong&#8221;<br />
    We were then routed to regges who told us&#8221; you need to pay $25,000 to re-do it&#8221;. No kidding! 🥵</p>
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