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		By: Don		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2022 00:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-77-jefferson-hawkins/#comment-456574&quot;&gt;Ariel&lt;/a&gt;.

I live near the Rosicrucian Fellowship International Headquarters in Oceanside, CA.  They are still active.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-77-jefferson-hawkins/#comment-456574">Ariel</a>.</p>
<p>I live near the Rosicrucian Fellowship International Headquarters in Oceanside, CA.  They are still active.</p>
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		By: Ariel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2022 20:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-77-jefferson-hawkins/#comment-456456&quot;&gt;Don&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-77-jefferson-hawkins/#comment-456456">Don</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2022 03:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-77-jefferson-hawkins/#comment-456415&quot;&gt;Ariel&lt;/a&gt;.

The Rosicrucians.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-77-jefferson-hawkins/#comment-456415">Ariel</a>.</p>
<p>The Rosicrucians.</p>
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		By: Ariel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What was the name of the 1900&#039;s cult mentioned? I wasn&#039;t able to understand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was the name of the 1900&#8217;s cult mentioned? I wasn&#8217;t able to understand.</p>
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		By: Bruce Ploetz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 13:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-77-jefferson-hawkins/#comment-456211&quot;&gt;Chocolate Velvet/Laurie Harness&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s the &quot;cream of the jest&quot;, you might say. 

Jefferson managed to send sales of the book into the skies, Hubbard told us &quot;Books Make Booms&quot;. It should, according to Hubbard&#039;s internal fantasy, have been a volcano of exploding expansion for Scientology. 

Sadly, or fortunately, the book only appeals to the hopelessly ignorant or venal among us. A tiny percentage go on to the real thing, and a tiny percentage of those last more than a few months. 

As one of those who was trapped for 40 years in it, I can see the pull of the book. Not that it sounds like a happy journey, just that it offers that impossible hope. It says there is an easy answer to all the pain and suffering. A few weeks or maybe a month of hypnotic brain-bending and all the madness is over! 

If it really worked, think of the future! No more war, no more insanity, no more pesky brother-in-law! Just one more iteration of that stupid utopian fantasy from the 18th century, but if you don&#039;t know the signs you can easily be pulled in. As so many have. 

Up on the third floor of Building 36, the Planetary Dissemination Organization, they even set up a sort of call center for those millions of happy Dianetics book readers. A few true believers manned the phones, all long gone now. 

At least Jefferson managed to definitively prove that Dianetics is horse-shit. Even given the very best marketing, you can&#039;t help a pig with cosmetics. Only the NOI has really fallen for it, and it is not clear what is actually happening there. Books may make Booms, but this one just makes Doom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-77-jefferson-hawkins/#comment-456211">Chocolate Velvet/Laurie Harness</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the &#8220;cream of the jest&#8221;, you might say. </p>
<p>Jefferson managed to send sales of the book into the skies, Hubbard told us &#8220;Books Make Booms&#8221;. It should, according to Hubbard&#8217;s internal fantasy, have been a volcano of exploding expansion for Scientology. </p>
<p>Sadly, or fortunately, the book only appeals to the hopelessly ignorant or venal among us. A tiny percentage go on to the real thing, and a tiny percentage of those last more than a few months. </p>
<p>As one of those who was trapped for 40 years in it, I can see the pull of the book. Not that it sounds like a happy journey, just that it offers that impossible hope. It says there is an easy answer to all the pain and suffering. A few weeks or maybe a month of hypnotic brain-bending and all the madness is over! </p>
<p>If it really worked, think of the future! No more war, no more insanity, no more pesky brother-in-law! Just one more iteration of that stupid utopian fantasy from the 18th century, but if you don&#8217;t know the signs you can easily be pulled in. As so many have. </p>
<p>Up on the third floor of Building 36, the Planetary Dissemination Organization, they even set up a sort of call center for those millions of happy Dianetics book readers. A few true believers manned the phones, all long gone now. </p>
<p>At least Jefferson managed to definitively prove that Dianetics is horse-shit. Even given the very best marketing, you can&#8217;t help a pig with cosmetics. Only the NOI has really fallen for it, and it is not clear what is actually happening there. Books may make Booms, but this one just makes Doom.</p>
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		By: george.m.white		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 05:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An excellent historical tape.  Jeff Hawkins is talented.  I remember the cable introduction of Dianetics.  I enjoyed the first half of the book.   The second half was very boring as I recall.  Hubbard did not really have any competition for decades and could expand and sell.  Once a new generation took over after the Viet Nam War, Hubbard was history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent historical tape.  Jeff Hawkins is talented.  I remember the cable introduction of Dianetics.  I enjoyed the first half of the book.   The second half was very boring as I recall.  Hubbard did not really have any competition for decades and could expand and sell.  Once a new generation took over after the Viet Nam War, Hubbard was history.</p>
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		By: Fred G. Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred G. Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 00:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Anderson Cooper’s week-long series “A History of Violence”

Dear Mike:

Thanks for posting this. Between that and Tony Ortega&#039;s posting of the cherch of scientology&#039;s Super Bowl ads from 2013 to 2022, I&#039;m in Ex-Scientologist Heaven!]]></description>
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<p>Dear Mike:</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this. Between that and Tony Ortega&#8217;s posting of the cherch of scientology&#8217;s Super Bowl ads from 2013 to 2022, I&#8217;m in Ex-Scientologist Heaven!</p>
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		By: Chocolate Velvet/Laurie Harness		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2022 21:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I look forward to listening to this episode. Jeff Hawkins is always an articulate and insightful person, and I enjoy hearing him talk about his experiences in scientology and the perspective he has gained on them since he left.

Those “Questions” ads he did in the 80’s were so effective! Especially the tag line “it’s the owner’s manual for the human mind”.  It certainly worked on me — for a little while. I was a teenager in the late 80’s, and those ads would come on during late night television shows. I was fascinated by psychology from a young age, and the promise of an actual “manual” for the mind was very appealing. I was intrigued by the idea of a book that could offer straightforward answers to such questions. So I got a paperback copy of Dianetics, and immediately began looking up the page references mentioned in the ads. 

Needless to say, I was incredibly disappointed. It was immediately clear to me, even as a high school student, that there were no answers to be found, and the whole book was a bunch of nonsense mixed with pop psychology pablum. Talk about false advertising! LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to listening to this episode. Jeff Hawkins is always an articulate and insightful person, and I enjoy hearing him talk about his experiences in scientology and the perspective he has gained on them since he left.</p>
<p>Those “Questions” ads he did in the 80’s were so effective! Especially the tag line “it’s the owner’s manual for the human mind”.  It certainly worked on me — for a little while. I was a teenager in the late 80’s, and those ads would come on during late night television shows. I was fascinated by psychology from a young age, and the promise of an actual “manual” for the mind was very appealing. I was intrigued by the idea of a book that could offer straightforward answers to such questions. So I got a paperback copy of Dianetics, and immediately began looking up the page references mentioned in the ads. </p>
<p>Needless to say, I was incredibly disappointed. It was immediately clear to me, even as a high school student, that there were no answers to be found, and the whole book was a bunch of nonsense mixed with pop psychology pablum. Talk about false advertising! LOL</p>
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		By: Maria McCartan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2022 09:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-77-jefferson-hawkins/#comment-455980&quot;&gt;Mary Kahn&lt;/a&gt;.

Thats so warming, glad for you that you found your way out Mary. I&#039;m sure hearing things like this from people like you helps jeff immensely in return x]]></description>
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<p>Thats so warming, glad for you that you found your way out Mary. I&#8217;m sure hearing things like this from people like you helps jeff immensely in return x</p>
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		By: Maria McCartan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria McCartan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2022 08:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I look forward to this, i&#039;ve just ordered a copy of counterfeit dreams as it was next on my reading list and I look forward to that as well. The anderson cooper series was shocking on soooooo many levels and I remember Jeff from this and the aftermath of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to this, i&#8217;ve just ordered a copy of counterfeit dreams as it was next on my reading list and I look forward to that as well. The anderson cooper series was shocking on soooooo many levels and I remember Jeff from this and the aftermath of course.</p>
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