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	Comments on: Episode 63: Former SO Member Nora Ames	</title>
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		By: Cate		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-429204</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 14:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-424168&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I have noticed that Catherine Bell doesn’t publicly say much about Scientology but a quick look through her public Instagram and it seems as though she is still friends with many, many Scientologists. It also looks as though she sends her daughter to Delphian School in Oregon…so, I’m guessing she and Penny Atwell Jones’ daughter pick &#038; choose what to believe in Scientology? From listening to your previous podcasts, it seems as though that neither of those things (lesbianism/having friendships with Scientologists if you have let the “religion”) are “allowed”. I know y’all have said that celebrities are treated differently but the whole “being gay/1:1 on the tone scale” seems as though having a relationship &#038; living with a woman would not be “tolerated”, celebrity or not. So, is there  acceptance of LGBTQ for celebrities or is it just ignored?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-424168">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I have noticed that Catherine Bell doesn’t publicly say much about Scientology but a quick look through her public Instagram and it seems as though she is still friends with many, many Scientologists. It also looks as though she sends her daughter to Delphian School in Oregon…so, I’m guessing she and Penny Atwell Jones’ daughter pick &amp; choose what to believe in Scientology? From listening to your previous podcasts, it seems as though that neither of those things (lesbianism/having friendships with Scientologists if you have let the “religion”) are “allowed”. I know y’all have said that celebrities are treated differently but the whole “being gay/1:1 on the tone scale” seems as though having a relationship &amp; living with a woman would not be “tolerated”, celebrity or not. So, is there  acceptance of LGBTQ for celebrities or is it just ignored?</p>
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		By: Joseph Stanley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2021 00:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing this Nora. This hits really hard as a former Sea Org member for me as a LGBTQI.

Stay Strong Sis, you are a great person and  I love your enthusiasm. Light is the best disinfectant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this Nora. This hits really hard as a former Sea Org member for me as a LGBTQI.</p>
<p>Stay Strong Sis, you are a great person and  I love your enthusiasm. Light is the best disinfectant.</p>
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		By: Debbie Baumgart		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 20:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent episode with Nora Ames. I love all of your episodes and all the work you and Leah do with Aftermath and Fair Game. Keep up the great work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent episode with Nora Ames. I love all of your episodes and all the work you and Leah do with Aftermath and Fair Game. Keep up the great work.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-424751</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 17:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-424699&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

Wonderful comment Joe. Thanks for taking the time to add to this amazing story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-424699">Joe Pendleton</a>.</p>
<p>Wonderful comment Joe. Thanks for taking the time to add to this amazing story.</p>
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		By: Joe Pendleton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, I met Nora&#039;s mother in 1968 and got her into Scientology in 1970, so I&#039;ve known Nora since she was born, and was living with her and her husband Cameron when they had their first son.

Nora, her mother Kathy and I are all &quot;SPs&quot; and the end of our Scientology careers were perfect examples of how Scientology &quot; eats its own.&quot;  Nora is not only a highly intelligent and hard working person, she is also very friendly, compassionate and loving and exactly the kind of charismatic and dare I use the term, &quot;high toned&quot; individual that the CoS REALLY should want working with celebrities, and in fact, all public. She was a STELLER Sea Org member at CC for years, but then committed the crime of being attracted to another female and kissing her.

Nora&#039;s mother Kathy was an extremely accomplished Cl.8 auditor and Cl. 6 CS, with the same individual qualities as Nora and again, the exact type of person the CoS would HAVE to have if it was at ALL serious about their joke supposed intention of wanting to &quot;clear the planet.&quot; I won&#039;t blow my own horn here about my almost 35 year &quot;tech&quot; career, but like Karen DLC, my old friend Sheldon Goldberg and so many others , the CoS wasted its best people who have DECADES of proven dedication and skill.

All of us were &quot;kicked out&quot; of Scientology AFTER we left, which in itself is a great joke. But maybe this all somehow proves LRH&#039;s idea of what a group does to protect others from itself. By getting rid of its best and most experienced people, the CoS has completely reduced its OWN reach, thus protecting the general public from itself as it has flushes itself down the toilet.

I have no regrets about joining the CoS and Kathy met Nora&#039;s father there and I would not have missed knowing Nora, her sister Sara, and Nora&#039;s sons for the world . So that part worked out well, and now Nora and her wife are raising four great kids. Nora is a survivor , and she helped her step father when he needed her .... and now she helps me survive too in me old age ... quite a person!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I met Nora&#8217;s mother in 1968 and got her into Scientology in 1970, so I&#8217;ve known Nora since she was born, and was living with her and her husband Cameron when they had their first son.</p>
<p>Nora, her mother Kathy and I are all &#8220;SPs&#8221; and the end of our Scientology careers were perfect examples of how Scientology &#8221; eats its own.&#8221;  Nora is not only a highly intelligent and hard working person, she is also very friendly, compassionate and loving and exactly the kind of charismatic and dare I use the term, &#8220;high toned&#8221; individual that the CoS REALLY should want working with celebrities, and in fact, all public. She was a STELLER Sea Org member at CC for years, but then committed the crime of being attracted to another female and kissing her.</p>
<p>Nora&#8217;s mother Kathy was an extremely accomplished Cl.8 auditor and Cl. 6 CS, with the same individual qualities as Nora and again, the exact type of person the CoS would HAVE to have if it was at ALL serious about their joke supposed intention of wanting to &#8220;clear the planet.&#8221; I won&#8217;t blow my own horn here about my almost 35 year &#8220;tech&#8221; career, but like Karen DLC, my old friend Sheldon Goldberg and so many others , the CoS wasted its best people who have DECADES of proven dedication and skill.</p>
<p>All of us were &#8220;kicked out&#8221; of Scientology AFTER we left, which in itself is a great joke. But maybe this all somehow proves LRH&#8217;s idea of what a group does to protect others from itself. By getting rid of its best and most experienced people, the CoS has completely reduced its OWN reach, thus protecting the general public from itself as it has flushes itself down the toilet.</p>
<p>I have no regrets about joining the CoS and Kathy met Nora&#8217;s father there and I would not have missed knowing Nora, her sister Sara, and Nora&#8217;s sons for the world . So that part worked out well, and now Nora and her wife are raising four great kids. Nora is a survivor , and she helped her step father when he needed her &#8230;. and now she helps me survive too in me old age &#8230; quite a person!!!!!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-424436</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 00:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-423920&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

As re his social tone I&#039;d agree; 1.1.  But his actual tone I&#039;d say was lower.  Much lower.  Below Body Death -  Controlling Bodies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-423920">Real</a>.</p>
<p>As re his social tone I&#8217;d agree; 1.1.  But his actual tone I&#8217;d say was lower.  Much lower.  Below Body Death &#8211;  Controlling Bodies.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 00:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-424346&quot;&gt;Real&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Solo Nuts&quot;...Laughter!..Good one, Real :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-424346">Real</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Solo Nuts&#8221;&#8230;Laughter!..Good one, Real 🙂</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 21:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-423995&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

I know a guy that went all the way to Solo Nuts.  He told me that as long as he didn&#039;t have an actual gay relationship they let him on the Bridge.  This was in the 90&#039;s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-423995">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>I know a guy that went all the way to Solo Nuts.  He told me that as long as he didn&#8217;t have an actual gay relationship they let him on the Bridge.  This was in the 90&#8217;s.</p>
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		By: ISNOINews		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 15:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[O/T. VIDEO: Aaron Smith-Levin Interviewed on TruNews: Scientology Infiltrating Ministries 


https://youtube.com/watch?v=E4ZtJf-B_Wwk 


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O/T. VIDEO: Aaron Smith-Levin Interviewed on TruNews: Scientology Infiltrating Ministries </p>
<p><a href="https://youtube.com/watch?v=E4ZtJf-B_Wwk" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtube.com/watch?v=E4ZtJf-B_Wwk</a> </p>
<p>/</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/episode-former-so-member-nora-ames/#comment-424216</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[otherles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 15:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As long as an adult does something in private with another consenting adult doesn&#039;t have an effect on me I DON&#039;T CARE!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as an adult does something in private with another consenting adult doesn&#8217;t have an effect on me I DON&#8217;T CARE!</p>
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