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		By: The Oracle		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-93016</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Oracle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92612&quot;&gt;Len Zinberg&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;ve got a potent stab.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92612">Len Zinberg</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got a potent stab.</p>
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		By: The Oracle		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-93014</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Oracle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92612&quot;&gt;Len Zinberg&lt;/a&gt;.

http://tonyortega.org/2015/06/23/reed-slatkin-dies-of-heart-attack-scientologist-served-time-as-major-ponzi-schemer/#more-23600]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92612">Len Zinberg</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://tonyortega.org/2015/06/23/reed-slatkin-dies-of-heart-attack-scientologist-served-time-as-major-ponzi-schemer/#more-23600" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tonyortega.org/2015/06/23/reed-slatkin-dies-of-heart-attack-scientologist-served-time-as-major-ponzi-schemer/#more-23600</a></p>
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		By: Jethro Bodine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92839</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jethro Bodine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92571&quot;&gt;Cured&lt;/a&gt;.

Good point. Some of the richest OTs are the most &quot;frugal&quot; when it comes to helping other scientologists get up the bridge. About 20 years I knew a woman who wrote a CSW to Craig Jenson (CEO of Executive Software) to loan her $20,000 to start the OT levels. She had the income lined up based on future revenue that was expected to come in (the sales were already closed). However, Mr. Jensen denied the CSW on the basis that &quot;it wasn&#039;t his policy to loan scientologists money.&quot; FWIW, I had also heard from more than one scietnologist that Executive Software paid below market salaries and employees didn&#039;t have stock options, which is unusual for a software company.I was told that scientologists should just be happy to work at an &quot;on policy&quot; scientology company, and that it was more important to push an Opinion Leader like Craig Jensen up in status, than it was to make the individual employees wealthy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92571">Cured</a>.</p>
<p>Good point. Some of the richest OTs are the most &#8220;frugal&#8221; when it comes to helping other scientologists get up the bridge. About 20 years I knew a woman who wrote a CSW to Craig Jenson (CEO of Executive Software) to loan her $20,000 to start the OT levels. She had the income lined up based on future revenue that was expected to come in (the sales were already closed). However, Mr. Jensen denied the CSW on the basis that &#8220;it wasn&#8217;t his policy to loan scientologists money.&#8221; FWIW, I had also heard from more than one scietnologist that Executive Software paid below market salaries and employees didn&#8217;t have stock options, which is unusual for a software company.I was told that scientologists should just be happy to work at an &#8220;on policy&#8221; scientology company, and that it was more important to push an Opinion Leader like Craig Jensen up in status, than it was to make the individual employees wealthy.</p>
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		By: Jethro Bodine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92838</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jethro Bodine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92615&quot;&gt;Regraded Being&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;You can get audited and trained from here to kingdom come but without the proper donations you will never achieve stable case gain. &quot;

Regraded Being, If I didn&#039;t know better I would think you&#039;re Howard Becker with a paper bag over his head. You truly understand what it takes to go OT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92615">Regraded Being</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;You can get audited and trained from here to kingdom come but without the proper donations you will never achieve stable case gain. &#8221;</p>
<p>Regraded Being, If I didn&#8217;t know better I would think you&#8217;re Howard Becker with a paper bag over his head. You truly understand what it takes to go OT.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92824</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2015 01:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92817&quot;&gt;cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Cindy,A very eloquent &#038; sincere post.I too wish those that cannot see out,but I cannot force them to do so.They must find the will to pull the blindfolds off their eyes,minds,&#038; siprits.Thank you. Ann B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92817">cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Cindy,A very eloquent &amp; sincere post.I too wish those that cannot see out,but I cannot force them to do so.They must find the will to pull the blindfolds off their eyes,minds,&amp; siprits.Thank you. Ann B.</p>
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		By: cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92817</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2015 00:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92794&quot;&gt;Snake Thompson&#039;s Ghost&lt;/a&gt;.

Well I have bared my belly to you and shown you how stupid and naïve and KA drinking I was to have lent it to him.  I didn&#039;t find out till later that that was how he planned to pay the money back.  He was crazy and so was I.  But I am not that way anymore, thank goodness.  So if I could finally see the light, maybe some of those other KA drinkers will see the light and get out too.  But sometimes I think all the ones that were able to see are already out and the ones left are the doomed beyond doom who cannot and will not see and will go down with the ship.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92794">Snake Thompson&#8217;s Ghost</a>.</p>
<p>Well I have bared my belly to you and shown you how stupid and naïve and KA drinking I was to have lent it to him.  I didn&#8217;t find out till later that that was how he planned to pay the money back.  He was crazy and so was I.  But I am not that way anymore, thank goodness.  So if I could finally see the light, maybe some of those other KA drinkers will see the light and get out too.  But sometimes I think all the ones that were able to see are already out and the ones left are the doomed beyond doom who cannot and will not see and will go down with the ship.</p>
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		By: Snake Thompson's Ghost		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92794</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snake Thompson's Ghost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92548&quot;&gt;cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Cindy, just when I think I&#039;ve read everything, this absurd tale of paying someone back with money you&#039;d stolen in a &quot;last lifetime&quot; and could now &quot;recover&quot; with auditing comes along. Now, that&#039;s magical thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92548">cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Cindy, just when I think I&#8217;ve read everything, this absurd tale of paying someone back with money you&#8217;d stolen in a &#8220;last lifetime&#8221; and could now &#8220;recover&#8221; with auditing comes along. Now, that&#8217;s magical thinking.</p>
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		By: Pinhead		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92721</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pinhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 12:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Doing $cientology seems a lot like teaching a bear to play the bagpipes:
1. It won&#039;t end well
2. Someone will get hurt.
3. I guarantee it won&#039;t be the bear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doing $cientology seems a lot like teaching a bear to play the bagpipes:<br />
1. It won&#8217;t end well<br />
2. Someone will get hurt.<br />
3. I guarantee it won&#8217;t be the bear.</p>
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		By: cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92708</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 00:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92677&quot;&gt;Pepper&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep I was naïve and swililng the Kool aide back then.  But no more!  I finally woke up and go out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92677">Pepper</a>.</p>
<p>Yep I was naïve and swililng the Kool aide back then.  But no more!  I finally woke up and go out.</p>
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		By: Foremost		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-beggars/#comment-92700</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foremost]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And if the reges find out you have that kind of coin to loan out, you&#039;ll end up having yet other monkeys on your back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if the reges find out you have that kind of coin to loan out, you&#8217;ll end up having yet other monkeys on your back.</p>
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