You didn’t even read what I wrote !

Irrelevant blather FG. World Wide (including US) it was falling as of ’76 and NEVER recovered.

Your best bet is to seek REAL professional mental health treatment for your denial problems.

I won’t keep on this thread as you need real help. However, I will counter your pathological lying in the future as I have now and in the past.

Hmm. I really can’t (wont) say. ? I guess it depends on what Dave means by straight up and vertical. Stats are down, memberships down…

And you’re right Winsky, in my area where scientology was new, it was going up. But in England at St Hill it was already a poor old conservative provincial thing. Lots of english red necks, quite stupid. Of course they had the G.O on the Manor. For me it was like the headquarter of the Gestapo.
And their dusty british college style was anything but new and Hubbard says Dianetics and Scientology are new !
Now it’s so much an old thing that nobody bother if they survive or not !

From my own experience, from 75 till 78/80, stats were going up. It was visible by number of WD hours, course completions, huge hours of student auditing, number of people in the shop.
My org was full, full. Couldn’t sit on course ! It really was kind of St Hill size (the idea didn’t exist at this time) and it would have been the time to have an ‘ideal org” !
But when we moved in a bigger building, nobody ever asked a dime to anyone, not even to help to carry things, they wanted students to study and auditors to audit. At this time, the concept of fundrising was not existing in scientology.

Of course at this time, there was already outside and inside suppression (Gardian Office was led by Jane Kember who was a real fascist, and IRS wanted really to do scientology in.).

Winsky I can understand that you are against it, but if once you were a scientologist, didn’t you like it sometime ?

I am not a scientology fanatics, far from it. I’m very much opposed to any kind of oppression against people free will. And Miscavige is the opposit of scientology.
Not from the natural DNA, this is true bullshit.
He is the DNA of all autoritarian piece of shit who have made history a great sorrow. They did take over states, religions etc. and caused wars, destruction and death.

OSD can we use the oily tables like a Slip-‘N-Slide?

FG, scamology started its crash in ’75/’76 in numbers of new members and new people taking services.. When Miss Cabbage was a child. How you give him credit is a study in insanity.

Didn’t Bob Duggan blow recently? He was the biggest Whale of them all…