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		By: SPeaking my Truth		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-337012</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336840&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Ciao PeaceMaker, i&#039;m not getting these data firsthand, I have contacts with some online Scientologist who is telling me how things are going, so I&#039;m not able to give you all these specifics. They are not working at full capacity, though, what I was told is they are managing to do &quot;some&quot; sessions, so number should not be very high.

Milano has only one entrance, no side entrances at all, just walls all around. Their main entrance to the courtyard is not on the main street, though, it is in front of a big parking lot, so people can get in quite unnoticed. The real problem is getting there, they have to get there through a main road where Police may be stopping people.

OSA involvement is mainly on Public Relations, running &quot;Ghostbusters&quot; Volunteer Ministers decontamination (they are cleaning Police cars as well) as a means to get some goodwill (propitiation). Not many volunteers on that line, though; maybe most of them are staff members.

Osa is not really involved with general public these days; all contacts to the public are meant to get money (IAS, advance payments on services, donations for The Way to Happiness booklets, etc.) or enrollments on Extension Courses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336840">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Ciao PeaceMaker, i&#8217;m not getting these data firsthand, I have contacts with some online Scientologist who is telling me how things are going, so I&#8217;m not able to give you all these specifics. They are not working at full capacity, though, what I was told is they are managing to do &#8220;some&#8221; sessions, so number should not be very high.</p>
<p>Milano has only one entrance, no side entrances at all, just walls all around. Their main entrance to the courtyard is not on the main street, though, it is in front of a big parking lot, so people can get in quite unnoticed. The real problem is getting there, they have to get there through a main road where Police may be stopping people.</p>
<p>OSA involvement is mainly on Public Relations, running &#8220;Ghostbusters&#8221; Volunteer Ministers decontamination (they are cleaning Police cars as well) as a means to get some goodwill (propitiation). Not many volunteers on that line, though; maybe most of them are staff members.</p>
<p>Osa is not really involved with general public these days; all contacts to the public are meant to get money (IAS, advance payments on services, donations for The Way to Happiness booklets, etc.) or enrollments on Extension Courses.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336840</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2020 20:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336542&quot;&gt;SPeaking my Truth&lt;/a&gt;.

SP, thanks for the info about Milano.  Any idea how much auditing they are managing to carry on?  It seems that most orgs didn&#039;t really deliver that much, anyway, so keeping close to a regular schedule just for that still might not mean too much traffic.  I also wonder if they they are bringing people in for sec-checking to try to maintain control now that they can&#039;t keep members under their thumbs in the orgs in all their off time, and people have time on their hands to do things like starting to look on the internet.

My bet is that OSA has a spycraft-style playbook, similar to the sort of thing they most notoriously did during the &quot;Snow White&quot; era, providing the orgs guidance including coaching members on what to stay if they&#039;re stopped on the way to the org - possibly even providing them fake paperwork about being a religious mission or something, as well - and how to surreptiously slip people in and out of the org without attracting attention, such as using different doors.  The question is, how widespread it is; &quot;OnceBorn&quot; has reported evidence of it going on in Plymouth, UK, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336542">SPeaking my Truth</a>.</p>
<p>SP, thanks for the info about Milano.  Any idea how much auditing they are managing to carry on?  It seems that most orgs didn&#8217;t really deliver that much, anyway, so keeping close to a regular schedule just for that still might not mean too much traffic.  I also wonder if they they are bringing people in for sec-checking to try to maintain control now that they can&#8217;t keep members under their thumbs in the orgs in all their off time, and people have time on their hands to do things like starting to look on the internet.</p>
<p>My bet is that OSA has a spycraft-style playbook, similar to the sort of thing they most notoriously did during the &#8220;Snow White&#8221; era, providing the orgs guidance including coaching members on what to stay if they&#8217;re stopped on the way to the org &#8211; possibly even providing them fake paperwork about being a religious mission or something, as well &#8211; and how to surreptiously slip people in and out of the org without attracting attention, such as using different doors.  The question is, how widespread it is; &#8220;OnceBorn&#8221; has reported evidence of it going on in Plymouth, UK, too.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336732</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2020 05:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336672&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey, I&#039;ve got one for you, Not Oracle!
How about &quot;Teccla&quot;?
Its Greek and it means &quot;God&#039;s Glory&quot;.
I&#039;ve always liked that name for some reason.
I read it somewhere, long ago.
If I weren&#039;t Aquamarine I&#039;d probably be Teccla.
But whatever :)
Richard&#039;s suggestion is a good one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336672">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Hey, I&#8217;ve got one for you, Not Oracle!<br />
How about &#8220;Teccla&#8221;?<br />
Its Greek and it means &#8220;God&#8217;s Glory&#8221;.<br />
I&#8217;ve always liked that name for some reason.<br />
I read it somewhere, long ago.<br />
If I weren&#8217;t Aquamarine I&#8217;d probably be Teccla.<br />
But whatever 🙂<br />
Richard&#8217;s suggestion is a good one.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 21:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336623&quot;&gt;Oracle II (not to be confused with &quot;The Oracle&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.

We all bid you &quot;You are welcome&quot; in every sense of the phrase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336623">Oracle II (not to be confused with &#8220;The Oracle&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p>We all bid you &#8220;You are welcome&#8221; in every sense of the phrase.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 21:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336623&quot;&gt;Oracle II (not to be confused with &quot;The Oracle&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.

Wikipedia is your friend for a long list of gods, goddesses and deities in Greek and Egyptian mythology. I might assign myself as &quot;Koalemos&quot;. Look it up - haha]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336623">Oracle II (not to be confused with &#8220;The Oracle&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p>Wikipedia is your friend for a long list of gods, goddesses and deities in Greek and Egyptian mythology. I might assign myself as &#8220;Koalemos&#8221;. Look it up &#8211; haha</p>
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		By: SPeaking my Truth		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336668</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPeaking my Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 21:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336637&quot;&gt;Loosing My Religion&lt;/a&gt;.

Prego (You&#039;re welcome).

I&#039;ll try to post more updates here; I&#039;m getting a lot of data from my &quot;sources&quot; these days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336637">Loosing My Religion</a>.</p>
<p>Prego (You&#8217;re welcome).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to post more updates here; I&#8217;m getting a lot of data from my &#8220;sources&#8221; these days.</p>
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		By: SPeaking my Truth		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336667</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPeaking my Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 21:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336654&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Number of active students.

I can tell there is quite some effort to get people on Extension Courses here in Italy (they are even calling me, and I&#039;m off service lines since a very long time); the number might be accurate or it might be the usual Italian Style stat push.

Most of Milano Org staff members are now calling public to push them on Extension Courses, even if they did them already.

They are asking the public to start (or re-do) some easy course and send at least a lesson a week to be counted on stats and &quot;help the org win the game&quot;; I&#039;m no longer on org lines, but I received some requests like that and that&#039;s the way Italy (i.e. Milano) stats have always been done in the past.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336654">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Number of active students.</p>
<p>I can tell there is quite some effort to get people on Extension Courses here in Italy (they are even calling me, and I&#8217;m off service lines since a very long time); the number might be accurate or it might be the usual Italian Style stat push.</p>
<p>Most of Milano Org staff members are now calling public to push them on Extension Courses, even if they did them already.</p>
<p>They are asking the public to start (or re-do) some easy course and send at least a lesson a week to be counted on stats and &#8220;help the org win the game&#8221;; I&#8217;m no longer on org lines, but I received some requests like that and that&#8217;s the way Italy (i.e. Milano) stats have always been done in the past.</p>
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		By: Loosing My Religion		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336656</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loosing My Religion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336616&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

Rip van Winkle. Right. That org was Milano, but just Milano. And most of the current extention courses in Italy come from there.
But current Milano org has few to do with the one of the 80s. 
And won&#039;t never go back there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336616">Rip Van Winkle</a>.</p>
<p>Rip van Winkle. Right. That org was Milano, but just Milano. And most of the current extention courses in Italy come from there.<br />
But current Milano org has few to do with the one of the 80s.<br />
And won&#8217;t never go back there.</p>
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		By: Loosing My Religion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loosing My Religion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336651&quot;&gt;SPeaking My Truth&lt;/a&gt;.

Speaking My Truth. Complimenti. Yes are these people or lessons numbers. Good source by the way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336651">SPeaking My Truth</a>.</p>
<p>Speaking My Truth. Complimenti. Yes are these people or lessons numbers. Good source by the way.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 18:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336651&quot;&gt;SPeaking My Truth&lt;/a&gt;.

Is this an actual number of people or a number of lessons done? Some people do 5 or 10 lessons in a week...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-ot-committee-5/#comment-336651">SPeaking My Truth</a>.</p>
<p>Is this an actual number of people or a number of lessons done? Some people do 5 or 10 lessons in a week&#8230;</p>
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