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		By: Lance Caldwell		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-198111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lance Caldwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2017 09:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197593&quot;&gt;Becky Whritenour&lt;/a&gt;.

Becky.

I was never in, but I really don&#039;t think that a &quot;mole&quot; is needed. LRH himself wrote to the whole world what his intentions was, and how to achieve the destruction of his enemies by fair or foul means. There are so many &quot;X&quot; members now who were high up in the cult that are speaking out, and those who were subject to the brutality of the cult, that the evidence is overwhelming for anyone who actually listens to &quot;Aftermath&quot; and looks at the almost unlimited videos by &quot;X&quot; members of this cult that is on line. I watch  the different videos for several hours each day, and find out more and more each time I watch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197593">Becky Whritenour</a>.</p>
<p>Becky.</p>
<p>I was never in, but I really don&#8217;t think that a &#8220;mole&#8221; is needed. LRH himself wrote to the whole world what his intentions was, and how to achieve the destruction of his enemies by fair or foul means. There are so many &#8220;X&#8221; members now who were high up in the cult that are speaking out, and those who were subject to the brutality of the cult, that the evidence is overwhelming for anyone who actually listens to &#8220;Aftermath&#8221; and looks at the almost unlimited videos by &#8220;X&#8221; members of this cult that is on line. I watch  the different videos for several hours each day, and find out more and more each time I watch.</p>
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		By: Lance Caldwell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lance Caldwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2017 09:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-198085&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Mike.

Well, I was fairly sure (how about positive) that this more than entertaining guy was not someone I would be throwing money at. LOL. 

I am delighted however that if he went to Ft Lauderdale and conned the gang from the cult out of anything, he has my vote. LOL. 

Believe me from the first to the last sentence of Steve, I knew was a total WTF reaction on my part.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-198085">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Mike.</p>
<p>Well, I was fairly sure (how about positive) that this more than entertaining guy was not someone I would be throwing money at. LOL. </p>
<p>I am delighted however that if he went to Ft Lauderdale and conned the gang from the cult out of anything, he has my vote. LOL. </p>
<p>Believe me from the first to the last sentence of Steve, I knew was a total WTF reaction on my part.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2017 04:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197543&quot;&gt;jim&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Jim.  I remember the Battle of Portland.  I hopped a plane to go there after the &quot;Call to Arms&quot; urging and keying in of earlier similar calls to arms.  They had a LOT of Scns show up in Portland to protest the Julie Christopherson court battle.  Amazing how they could quickly get that many to show up in Portland and yet they can&#039;t get much of anyone to show up for the ribbon yanking new Idle Org.  The ones that did show up were flown for free there in the 7 chartered airplanes.  The comparison of Portland, OR to now shows me that we have lost a lot of people and the church is really circling the drain as far as members goes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197543">jim</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Jim.  I remember the Battle of Portland.  I hopped a plane to go there after the &#8220;Call to Arms&#8221; urging and keying in of earlier similar calls to arms.  They had a LOT of Scns show up in Portland to protest the Julie Christopherson court battle.  Amazing how they could quickly get that many to show up in Portland and yet they can&#8217;t get much of anyone to show up for the ribbon yanking new Idle Org.  The ones that did show up were flown for free there in the 7 chartered airplanes.  The comparison of Portland, OR to now shows me that we have lost a lot of people and the church is really circling the drain as far as members goes.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2017 23:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-198066&quot;&gt;Lance Caldwell&lt;/a&gt;.

Steve Fishman is a conman. Always has been and always will be. Currently serving time for a subsequent con after he was done with scientology. 

For a time he conned people that he was an experienced scientologist who was spilling the beans on all sorts of secrets. In truth, he had gone into a mission in Ft Lauderdale and conned the ED of the Mission and then had parlayed that into a short-lived career as a &quot;scientology expert.&quot;

Don&#039;t believe a word he says.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-198066">Lance Caldwell</a>.</p>
<p>Steve Fishman is a conman. Always has been and always will be. Currently serving time for a subsequent con after he was done with scientology. </p>
<p>For a time he conned people that he was an experienced scientologist who was spilling the beans on all sorts of secrets. In truth, he had gone into a mission in Ft Lauderdale and conned the ED of the Mission and then had parlayed that into a short-lived career as a &#8220;scientology expert.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t believe a word he says.</p>
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		By: Lance Caldwell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2017 20:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something that has been nagging at me ever since I read about it. 

Nathan Rich, and Tara Reile had a great interview on &quot;Aftermath&quot; with Leah and Mike about the abuses of the ranch, and the abuses of Wally Hanks, which included a tape of a child being beaten with the &quot;paddle.&quot;

For a real treat into &quot;Neverland&quot; watch the interview (seven parts) with Steve Fishman. He is, or has, written a book on his experiences via Scientology. Scientology does not want this book published it seems, and has done everything it could to suppress it. Mr. Fishman shows the interviewer a un-opened box from what he says is from Scientology which contains a kit to commit suicide. This is the 3rd package that has been sent to him, and he is turning it over to the FBI. He  was told by the cult that if he (Fishman) would commit suicide then he would be able to come back and go right up the ladder (or some insane remark) in the cult. Fishman declined, not that he was against the idea, but because he was not sure he would come back at this time period. 

Now comes my question. After the interview with Nathan and Tara, Wally Hanks suddenly dies. How nice for the cult, as it ties off any loose ends of the tape with the beating of the child, and &quot;dead men, tell no tales.&quot; Has the cult finally gotten around to actually murdering those who defy them, or do not want them to give evidence against the cult. &quot;destroy your enemies completely&quot; LRH. 

In any case watch the Steve Fishman videos. Long, but it makes LRH&#039;s stuff pale in comparison.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that has been nagging at me ever since I read about it. </p>
<p>Nathan Rich, and Tara Reile had a great interview on &#8220;Aftermath&#8221; with Leah and Mike about the abuses of the ranch, and the abuses of Wally Hanks, which included a tape of a child being beaten with the &#8220;paddle.&#8221;</p>
<p>For a real treat into &#8220;Neverland&#8221; watch the interview (seven parts) with Steve Fishman. He is, or has, written a book on his experiences via Scientology. Scientology does not want this book published it seems, and has done everything it could to suppress it. Mr. Fishman shows the interviewer a un-opened box from what he says is from Scientology which contains a kit to commit suicide. This is the 3rd package that has been sent to him, and he is turning it over to the FBI. He  was told by the cult that if he (Fishman) would commit suicide then he would be able to come back and go right up the ladder (or some insane remark) in the cult. Fishman declined, not that he was against the idea, but because he was not sure he would come back at this time period. </p>
<p>Now comes my question. After the interview with Nathan and Tara, Wally Hanks suddenly dies. How nice for the cult, as it ties off any loose ends of the tape with the beating of the child, and &#8220;dead men, tell no tales.&#8221; Has the cult finally gotten around to actually murdering those who defy them, or do not want them to give evidence against the cult. &#8220;destroy your enemies completely&#8221; LRH. </p>
<p>In any case watch the Steve Fishman videos. Long, but it makes LRH&#8217;s stuff pale in comparison.</p>
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		By: peggy2176il		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2017 13:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I got my notice, half price.......whooop.  Maybe next year it will be BOGO!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my notice, half price&#8230;&#8230;.whooop.  Maybe next year it will be BOGO!</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197502&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t they just need 10,000 Clear&#039;s for the earth to be Cleared?  If you are going by those figures wouldn&#039;t it suggest that Scientology is broken, because there is no sign they are positively changing the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197502">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t they just need 10,000 Clear&#8217;s for the earth to be Cleared?  If you are going by those figures wouldn&#8217;t it suggest that Scientology is broken, because there is no sign they are positively changing the world.</p>
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		By: Lance Caldwell		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197797</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lance Caldwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2017 12:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wrote that I had taken the &quot;Oxford Capacity Analysis&quot; questionnaire and had the cult check it over for me, and tell me where I am &quot;failing&quot; or &quot;needs help.&quot;

I was, and am, disturbed by some of the questions of this questionnaire, and if I may would like to enlighten you as their contents, and you can in your own mind  of how you would answer. 

Question (98). Would you use corporal punishment on a child aged 10 if it refuses to obey you.
Question (113). Would it take a definite effort on your part to consider the subject of suicide.
Question (125) Are you suspicious of people who ask for money from you.
Question (129) Are you in favor of color bar and class distinction.
Question (161) Are your interests and fields of knowledge so important as to give little time to anything else. 

There are many more questions of a similar nature, just worded in a different way. It almost seems to me at least, that they are trying to find out if you would be OK with the LRH or DM way of doing things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote that I had taken the &#8220;Oxford Capacity Analysis&#8221; questionnaire and had the cult check it over for me, and tell me where I am &#8220;failing&#8221; or &#8220;needs help.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was, and am, disturbed by some of the questions of this questionnaire, and if I may would like to enlighten you as their contents, and you can in your own mind  of how you would answer. </p>
<p>Question (98). Would you use corporal punishment on a child aged 10 if it refuses to obey you.<br />
Question (113). Would it take a definite effort on your part to consider the subject of suicide.<br />
Question (125) Are you suspicious of people who ask for money from you.<br />
Question (129) Are you in favor of color bar and class distinction.<br />
Question (161) Are your interests and fields of knowledge so important as to give little time to anything else. </p>
<p>There are many more questions of a similar nature, just worded in a different way. It almost seems to me at least, that they are trying to find out if you would be OK with the LRH or DM way of doing things.</p>
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		By: Kricket		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2017 05:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197758&quot;&gt;Teen&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Teen,
    I started watching the Aftermath a few weeks ago, (thanks to on demand I went back and watched most earlier episodes as well) I am horrified and saddened by what I have heard and seen.  

   I have been trying to learn more (a little each day), there are so many layers of abuse; physical, emotional, maltreatment and violation of basic human rights, etc., that I am angered and want them to suffer the consequences of the lives they destroyed.  I have been sharing what I am learning and encouraging others to watch and learn too.   I am thankful that Mike, Leah and all the others have braved the storm to come forward to educate the world on the corrupt organization.

Blessings to all!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197758">Teen</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Teen,<br />
    I started watching the Aftermath a few weeks ago, (thanks to on demand I went back and watched most earlier episodes as well) I am horrified and saddened by what I have heard and seen.  </p>
<p>   I have been trying to learn more (a little each day), there are so many layers of abuse; physical, emotional, maltreatment and violation of basic human rights, etc., that I am angered and want them to suffer the consequences of the lives they destroyed.  I have been sharing what I am learning and encouraging others to watch and learn too.   I am thankful that Mike, Leah and all the others have braved the storm to come forward to educate the world on the corrupt organization.</p>
<p>Blessings to all!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2017 03:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197594&quot;&gt;Kricket&lt;/a&gt;.

Not ignorant at all..  You have complete understanding of Scientology motivation and ideology.   Doesn&#039;t take long to figure it out that they do not give a shit about people, family, relationships...  It&#039;s all about the money.  Keep reading on the subject and you&#039;ll learn of abuse.  Won&#039;t be long before you&#039;re pissed off too and you&#039;re writing letters to your government officials like the rest of us.

Welcome to Rinder&#039;s!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-otc-news-2/#comment-197594">Kricket</a>.</p>
<p>Not ignorant at all..  You have complete understanding of Scientology motivation and ideology.   Doesn&#8217;t take long to figure it out that they do not give a shit about people, family, relationships&#8230;  It&#8217;s all about the money.  Keep reading on the subject and you&#8217;ll learn of abuse.  Won&#8217;t be long before you&#8217;re pissed off too and you&#8217;re writing letters to your government officials like the rest of us.</p>
<p>Welcome to Rinder&#8217;s!</p>
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