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		By: GoVoluntary		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-329426</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Feb 2020 13:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-328831&quot;&gt;Paula Fair&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Paula,

Thank you so much. What you said means a lot to me. talking to you was always a bright spot for me.

I&#039;d love to make a connection.

Email contact info to bezotemp@gmail.com and I&#039;ll get back to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-328831">Paula Fair</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Paula,</p>
<p>Thank you so much. What you said means a lot to me. talking to you was always a bright spot for me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to make a connection.</p>
<p>Email contact info to <a href="mailto:bezotemp@gmail.com">bezotemp@gmail.com</a> and I&#8217;ll get back to you.</p>
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		By: Paula Fair		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-328831</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 08:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12369&quot;&gt;GoVoluntary&lt;/a&gt;.

John,
I remember you and Judy very well. You two consistently seemed so close. I&#039;m sad to think of the two of you being apart and yet glad that you did what you felt you needed to do to take care of yourself. I remember you struggling and it was hard to see.
I liked what you wrote. 
You always came across to me as keeping in touch with what mattered, caring for those around you. We all know the messed up situation we were in. (Although I think we only saw the tip of the iceberg at the time.) I found respite in little chats with you. Times to just be a person in amongst all the pressure. 
I always worked in personnel enhancement and I loved what I did. You helped me carry on and thus be a caring support to our staff as well as I could. 
Thanks John. 
Wishing you all the best, 
Paula Fair
PS: I hope you don&#039;t mind me being personal on an open forum. I don&#039;t know if I will ever have a way to contact you personally. So I just wanted you to know you helped people more than you imagined. 
You may never see this... I don&#039;t know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12369">GoVoluntary</a>.</p>
<p>John,<br />
I remember you and Judy very well. You two consistently seemed so close. I&#8217;m sad to think of the two of you being apart and yet glad that you did what you felt you needed to do to take care of yourself. I remember you struggling and it was hard to see.<br />
I liked what you wrote.<br />
You always came across to me as keeping in touch with what mattered, caring for those around you. We all know the messed up situation we were in. (Although I think we only saw the tip of the iceberg at the time.) I found respite in little chats with you. Times to just be a person in amongst all the pressure.<br />
I always worked in personnel enhancement and I loved what I did. You helped me carry on and thus be a caring support to our staff as well as I could.<br />
Thanks John.<br />
Wishing you all the best,<br />
Paula Fair<br />
PS: I hope you don&#8217;t mind me being personal on an open forum. I don&#8217;t know if I will ever have a way to contact you personally. So I just wanted you to know you helped people more than you imagined.<br />
You may never see this&#8230; I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		By: Mary N.		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-252512</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 06:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would things REALLY improve if David Miscavige stepped down? Wouldn&#039;t there be a dozen other monkeys in suits lined up to take his place and do the same things? Afterall, he worked closely with Hubbard and was one of his most ardent pupils. Isn&#039;t he doing exactly what his master taught him?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would things REALLY improve if David Miscavige stepped down? Wouldn&#8217;t there be a dozen other monkeys in suits lined up to take his place and do the same things? Afterall, he worked closely with Hubbard and was one of his most ardent pupils. Isn&#8217;t he doing exactly what his master taught him?</p>
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		By: Indie8Million		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12883</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12779&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Jane Doe! 
Thanks for that! Yes, the 8 millionth Scientologist has left the building. ;)
Isn&#039;t that the amount of Scientologists that Heber used to say were in?
Not any more. :
Indie8Million]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12779">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Jane Doe!<br />
Thanks for that! Yes, the 8 millionth Scientologist has left the building. 😉<br />
Isn&#8217;t that the amount of Scientologists that Heber used to say were in?<br />
Not any more. :<br />
Indie8Million</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12783</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12756&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

My God Mike!  I never saw it so clearly as now when you posted what you did about why he builds Ideal Orgs.  It all makes sense now.  &quot;...They are strictly a facade. The ONE thing Miscavige has is money at his disposal. So, he tries to BUY the appearance of success. Being in power and not “losing” is more important to him than having money. The money only serves the purpose of enabling him to construct a worldwide set.&quot;  Well said Mike.
And notice whenever the media or anyone questions &quot;how many members does Scn have?&quot; then Miscavige via his sock puppet Pouw says that we are the fastest expanding religion on earth, why just look at all the latest churches opening.... and he directs them with smoke and mirrors to view not the real numbers, but the newest glittering jewel in the crown of Ideal Orgs.  Those same reporters should come back a year later and look inside the same buildings he touted to them and see the cob webs, the empty course rooms, the haggard and small staff, or worse yet see if the place is boarded up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12756">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>My God Mike!  I never saw it so clearly as now when you posted what you did about why he builds Ideal Orgs.  It all makes sense now.  &#8220;&#8230;They are strictly a facade. The ONE thing Miscavige has is money at his disposal. So, he tries to BUY the appearance of success. Being in power and not “losing” is more important to him than having money. The money only serves the purpose of enabling him to construct a worldwide set.&#8221;  Well said Mike.<br />
And notice whenever the media or anyone questions &#8220;how many members does Scn have?&#8221; then Miscavige via his sock puppet Pouw says that we are the fastest expanding religion on earth, why just look at all the latest churches opening&#8230;. and he directs them with smoke and mirrors to view not the real numbers, but the newest glittering jewel in the crown of Ideal Orgs.  Those same reporters should come back a year later and look inside the same buildings he touted to them and see the cob webs, the empty course rooms, the haggard and small staff, or worse yet see if the place is boarded up.</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12779</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12750&quot;&gt;Indie8Million&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes instead of 10,000 on SN in the church, how about 10,000 on SN outside the church in the Indie world.  Better yet, how about 8 MIllion Indies!  Good postulates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12750">Indie8Million</a>.</p>
<p>Yes instead of 10,000 on SN in the church, how about 10,000 on SN outside the church in the Indie world.  Better yet, how about 8 MIllion Indies!  Good postulates.</p>
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		By: Indie8Million		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12770</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12756&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for that, Mike. I kept hearing that the orgs were paying rent and I didn&#039;t know how they were doing it either. Yours&#039; sounds way more real ie: not being able to pay the light bill, etc.
Funny about him buying position and just putting up newer and newer &quot;sets&quot;.
Sounds like the boy never left Gold and is still playing in that dream world. Stuck in a pleasure moment, maybe? 
Just plain old psycho? &quot;I&#039;m ready for my close up, Mr. DeMille.&quot;
Wow. 
On the human being side of things, what a dreadful, awful world he must live in with himself to feel so inadequate that MEST, and so much of it, is needed for him to feel real and accepted by other decent human beings, while degrading them all the while. It&#039;s really pathetic, honestly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12756">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for that, Mike. I kept hearing that the orgs were paying rent and I didn&#8217;t know how they were doing it either. Yours&#8217; sounds way more real ie: not being able to pay the light bill, etc.<br />
Funny about him buying position and just putting up newer and newer &#8220;sets&#8221;.<br />
Sounds like the boy never left Gold and is still playing in that dream world. Stuck in a pleasure moment, maybe?<br />
Just plain old psycho? &#8220;I&#8217;m ready for my close up, Mr. DeMille.&#8221;<br />
Wow.<br />
On the human being side of things, what a dreadful, awful world he must live in with himself to feel so inadequate that MEST, and so much of it, is needed for him to feel real and accepted by other decent human beings, while degrading them all the while. It&#8217;s really pathetic, honestly.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12752&quot;&gt;Indie8Million&lt;/a&gt;.

These orgs are not paying rent -- they cannot afford the electricity bills for these palaces. Their phones are shut off. Elevators closed. No maintenance being done. Certainly the property portfolio has increased in value, but if this was simply a real estate scam hundreds of millions of dollars would not have been invested in elaborate renovations that will see NO return if the building is sold. Nor would they increase the value of the property to obtain a mortgage. Nobody puts any value on the elaborate renovations of course rooms and auditing rooms. They are useless as a property investment. The reason for Ideal Orgs is so Miscavige has something to SHOW that he can claim PROVES he is lording over massive expansion. Without that he cannot keep himself in power. These Ideal Orgs are like the elaborate and expensive stages constructed for his events. They are strictly a facade. The ONE thing Miscavige has is money at his disposal. So, he tries to BUY the appearance of success. Being in power and not &quot;losing&quot; is more important to him than having money. The money only serves the purpose of enabling him to construct a worldwide set.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12752">Indie8Million</a>.</p>
<p>These orgs are not paying rent &#8212; they cannot afford the electricity bills for these palaces. Their phones are shut off. Elevators closed. No maintenance being done. Certainly the property portfolio has increased in value, but if this was simply a real estate scam hundreds of millions of dollars would not have been invested in elaborate renovations that will see NO return if the building is sold. Nor would they increase the value of the property to obtain a mortgage. Nobody puts any value on the elaborate renovations of course rooms and auditing rooms. They are useless as a property investment. The reason for Ideal Orgs is so Miscavige has something to SHOW that he can claim PROVES he is lording over massive expansion. Without that he cannot keep himself in power. These Ideal Orgs are like the elaborate and expensive stages constructed for his events. They are strictly a facade. The ONE thing Miscavige has is money at his disposal. So, he tries to BUY the appearance of success. Being in power and not &#8220;losing&#8221; is more important to him than having money. The money only serves the purpose of enabling him to construct a worldwide set.</p>
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		By: Indie8Million		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding Real Estate:
This is the only thing that makes sense to me.
The public invests their hard-earned money to &quot;support Global Clearing&quot; into real estate for the Church. 
No one offers them any part of the profit for their investment.
Once the building is purchased, this same public is regged for the renos, thus increasing the property value.
So a 5 Million dollar building becomes a 7 Million dollar building.
Yes, there is the rent paid by the org but watch this - 
What if DM takes all of those properties, when he&#039;s ready to roll out of town and refi&#039;s every single one?
NO ONE would know! The org will still go on paying their rent and, if Davey sets it up somewhat ethically (cough cough), the rents will pay the refi.
If he&#039;s not ethical (not possible, of course), he just lets all of those buildings go into default as he runs away to his own private island, next to Richard Branson&#039;s, for example.
See, from this viewpoint, he&#039;s not crazy. He&#039;s just playing another game than we think he&#039;s playing. 
Suddenly, it all makes sense.
Stop giving him your money. It&#039;s not going to the dream that you have and the game you&#039;re playing. It&#039;s going to a modern dictator&#039;s secret agenda to finance his own escape. 
LOOK.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Real Estate:<br />
This is the only thing that makes sense to me.<br />
The public invests their hard-earned money to &#8220;support Global Clearing&#8221; into real estate for the Church.<br />
No one offers them any part of the profit for their investment.<br />
Once the building is purchased, this same public is regged for the renos, thus increasing the property value.<br />
So a 5 Million dollar building becomes a 7 Million dollar building.<br />
Yes, there is the rent paid by the org but watch this &#8211;<br />
What if DM takes all of those properties, when he&#8217;s ready to roll out of town and refi&#8217;s every single one?<br />
NO ONE would know! The org will still go on paying their rent and, if Davey sets it up somewhat ethically (cough cough), the rents will pay the refi.<br />
If he&#8217;s not ethical (not possible, of course), he just lets all of those buildings go into default as he runs away to his own private island, next to Richard Branson&#8217;s, for example.<br />
See, from this viewpoint, he&#8217;s not crazy. He&#8217;s just playing another game than we think he&#8217;s playing.<br />
Suddenly, it all makes sense.<br />
Stop giving him your money. It&#8217;s not going to the dream that you have and the game you&#8217;re playing. It&#8217;s going to a modern dictator&#8217;s secret agenda to finance his own escape.<br />
LOOK.</p>
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		By: Indie8Million		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12725&quot;&gt;calvin b. duffield&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re welcome, Calvin. You and I think alike, it seems. :)
So glad you got my intention behind the name, Indie8Million. &quot;The 8 millionth Scientologist has just gone Indie.&quot; Evolution over - next target, please.  :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/food-for-thought/#comment-12725">calvin b. duffield</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome, Calvin. You and I think alike, it seems. 🙂<br />
So glad you got my intention behind the name, Indie8Million. &#8220;The 8 millionth Scientologist has just gone Indie.&#8221; Evolution over &#8211; next target, please.  😀</p>
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