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		By: David Buono		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-368729</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2020 08:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, I am a Dunedin resident, but more importantly, I have been around Pinellas county for well over 40 years. i am not a follower of Scientology. I would like nothing more than to put Scientology down for good. I have watched Leah&#039;s show about it and hate it even more now. 

I am a US marine. I fought for freedom and believe in freedom. 

I want to help you rescue people from their grasp. I will help you in any shape or form I can. I am a 6&#039;4&quot; man, I can be scary if need be... I will help you liberate anybody who wants out of Scientology.

Contact me through email first then I will give you and only you, my cell phone number. I have seen a lot of very quiet Scientology buildings outside of don&#039;t town Clearwater. 
 I am interested in helping your cause.

Until I hear from you, I will be here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I am a Dunedin resident, but more importantly, I have been around Pinellas county for well over 40 years. i am not a follower of Scientology. I would like nothing more than to put Scientology down for good. I have watched Leah&#8217;s show about it and hate it even more now. </p>
<p>I am a US marine. I fought for freedom and believe in freedom. </p>
<p>I want to help you rescue people from their grasp. I will help you in any shape or form I can. I am a 6&#8217;4&#8243; man, I can be scary if need be&#8230; I will help you liberate anybody who wants out of Scientology.</p>
<p>Contact me through email first then I will give you and only you, my cell phone number. I have seen a lot of very quiet Scientology buildings outside of don&#8217;t town Clearwater.<br />
 I am interested in helping your cause.</p>
<p>Until I hear from you, I will be here.</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-356633</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2020 16:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh No! Oh dear!

I jest realized this blog page is from the beginning of 2018.

I know that I am off base. But to be two full years off base, well .... there is jest no excuse. I yam sorry! So sorry!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh No! Oh dear!</p>
<p>I jest realized this blog page is from the beginning of 2018.</p>
<p>I know that I am off base. But to be two full years off base, well &#8230;. there is jest no excuse. I yam sorry! So sorry!</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2020 16:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-206167&quot;&gt;Computer Guy&lt;/a&gt;.

OK. Computer guy. Could you please exhale just a bit? I want to join you. Please? If  you were to exhale a teeny tiny bit, I bet cha I could probably exsqueeze into the corner with you.

Exsqueeze me, Please?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-206167">Computer Guy</a>.</p>
<p>OK. Computer guy. Could you please exhale just a bit? I want to join you. Please? If  you were to exhale a teeny tiny bit, I bet cha I could probably exsqueeze into the corner with you.</p>
<p>Exsqueeze me, Please?</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-356631</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-206207&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Gross in every way? What the Hell? What do you mean?

She is far more gross in many ways that we have ever ever even considered. 

In fact, (are you sitting down?), if we were to hold a contest for the most ugly and most grossest creature what ever did fart upon the surface of our planet, she would come up as the one creature who could uglify most any situation without ever even trying. When it comes to &quot;uglification&quot;, that monster is truly a winner in every single category. In fact, she is also a winner in all the dogegories. That is pretty hard to do when you do not even qualify as a cat. She truly is a doggone dog! Woof!  Woof!  Woof!  (and Arf! Arf! and Barf!).  Would you like to hear more my dear? I got more, you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-206207">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Gross in every way? What the Hell? What do you mean?</p>
<p>She is far more gross in many ways that we have ever ever even considered. </p>
<p>In fact, (are you sitting down?), if we were to hold a contest for the most ugly and most grossest creature what ever did fart upon the surface of our planet, she would come up as the one creature who could uglify most any situation without ever even trying. When it comes to &#8220;uglification&#8221;, that monster is truly a winner in every single category. In fact, she is also a winner in all the dogegories. That is pretty hard to do when you do not even qualify as a cat. She truly is a doggone dog! Woof!  Woof!  Woof!  (and Arf! Arf! and Barf!).  Would you like to hear more my dear? I got more, you know.</p>
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		By: More on Scientology Fair Game: Black Propaganda		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More on Scientology Fair Game: Black Propaganda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2020 19:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Framing Whistleblowers &#8212; The Scientology Playbook [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Framing Whistleblowers &#8212; The Scientology Playbook [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-325965</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-206280&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I hope she/he gets better soon also.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-206280">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I hope she/he gets better soon also.</p>
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		By: Stand Double Standards		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-300094</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stand Double Standards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] of framing &#8220;enemies&#8221; and clearcut policies to do so — see this earlier blog post Framing Whistleblowers &#8212; the Scientology Playbook, and our perspective on the allegations against Paul in this article Concerning Paul [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] of framing &#8220;enemies&#8221; and clearcut policies to do so — see this earlier blog post Framing Whistleblowers &#8212; the Scientology Playbook, and our perspective on the allegations against Paul in this article Concerning Paul [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Concerning Paul Haggis		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-206948</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerning Paul Haggis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] See also this earlier post: Framing Whistleblowers &#8212; The Scientology Playbook [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] See also this earlier post: Framing Whistleblowers &#8212; The Scientology Playbook [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Concerning Paul Haggis: An Open Letter from Leah Remini and Mike Rinder &#124; The Scientology Money Project		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerning Paul Haggis: An Open Letter from Leah Remini and Mike Rinder &#124; The Scientology Money Project]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2018 08:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] See also this earlier post: Framing Whistleblowers — The Scientology Playbook [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] See also this earlier post: Framing Whistleblowers — The Scientology Playbook [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: What A WOG Saw		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What A WOG Saw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 02:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-206124&quot;&gt;Cat W.&lt;/a&gt;.

This is really really well said and dead on. Personal story...As an outsider, a WOG and someone with no ties or experience with scientology up until about 2.5 years ago other than a snip of Going Clear, I had no idea what they were capable of...Until I met the most gorgeous, fun and charismatic woman of my life here in LA and fell in love hard. By the time I found out she had any ties at all to Scientology I was already so hooked I somewhat convinced myself it would be ok. It helped that she said, &quot;Oh my family is in Florida, I don&#039;t see them much and none of us have much assosiation with the church at all. I haven&#039;t even stepped in the church in 4-5 years&quot; That turned out to be lies but what I saw, learned and experienced in the next two years is fucking up my head today 7 months out of the relationship.

Turns out she came from one of the most deeply tied families in the cult and while she had distanced herself she had a lifetime of crazy upbringing, brainwashing and severe childhood sexual abuse (never reported but certainly audited) which will no doubt will effect the rest of her life. The person I loved turned out to be one of the most manipulative, narcissistic self serving destructive conciousless liars to walk the earth. Lies as &quot;acceptable truth&quot; is just the beginning.

In this time what I saw from her friends, Church affiliated circle and Hollywood associations (all the major names we hear all the time) was just a series of unconscionable and incestuous behavior that blew my mind. At the end of the day it was all justified in their own minds. They could do no wrong. 

My special someone, who spoke of marriage, future plans and devotion to me had multiple personalities and no morality. She lied, cheated and even stole. She exhibited these behaviors while I looked after her and essestially gave her my whole world. She continued this behavior while lying to my face in time of personal family tragedy, sickness and death. When I figured her out she essentially disconnected and smeared my name like I&#039;d never existed and moved right on to a new relationship opportunities that had been started while we were together. MANY OF THEM. We basically lived together between our two homes prior.

My point here and this is nothing new, is that the cult creates or reinforces behavior that is nothing short of immoral and horrendous. Behavior that is justified as ok because it&#039;s their own truth. They are capable of anything. Its not in the least bit surprising to see them going after Haggis. They will turn on anyone at any time because nobody matters. There will be a million lives to come to do things all over again. We are all temporary in this &quot;unit of time&quot; (her words) to them. They have no souls and only look for immediate gratification no matter how hollow or immoral it is.

I don&#039;t mean to make blanket statements but it&#039;s my experience. No morals, no empathy, no credibility and no shame. They don&#039;t know the meaning of Ethics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/framing-whistleblowers-the-scientology-playbook/#comment-206124">Cat W.</a>.</p>
<p>This is really really well said and dead on. Personal story&#8230;As an outsider, a WOG and someone with no ties or experience with scientology up until about 2.5 years ago other than a snip of Going Clear, I had no idea what they were capable of&#8230;Until I met the most gorgeous, fun and charismatic woman of my life here in LA and fell in love hard. By the time I found out she had any ties at all to Scientology I was already so hooked I somewhat convinced myself it would be ok. It helped that she said, &#8220;Oh my family is in Florida, I don&#8217;t see them much and none of us have much assosiation with the church at all. I haven&#8217;t even stepped in the church in 4-5 years&#8221; That turned out to be lies but what I saw, learned and experienced in the next two years is fucking up my head today 7 months out of the relationship.</p>
<p>Turns out she came from one of the most deeply tied families in the cult and while she had distanced herself she had a lifetime of crazy upbringing, brainwashing and severe childhood sexual abuse (never reported but certainly audited) which will no doubt will effect the rest of her life. The person I loved turned out to be one of the most manipulative, narcissistic self serving destructive conciousless liars to walk the earth. Lies as &#8220;acceptable truth&#8221; is just the beginning.</p>
<p>In this time what I saw from her friends, Church affiliated circle and Hollywood associations (all the major names we hear all the time) was just a series of unconscionable and incestuous behavior that blew my mind. At the end of the day it was all justified in their own minds. They could do no wrong. </p>
<p>My special someone, who spoke of marriage, future plans and devotion to me had multiple personalities and no morality. She lied, cheated and even stole. She exhibited these behaviors while I looked after her and essestially gave her my whole world. She continued this behavior while lying to my face in time of personal family tragedy, sickness and death. When I figured her out she essentially disconnected and smeared my name like I&#8217;d never existed and moved right on to a new relationship opportunities that had been started while we were together. MANY OF THEM. We basically lived together between our two homes prior.</p>
<p>My point here and this is nothing new, is that the cult creates or reinforces behavior that is nothing short of immoral and horrendous. Behavior that is justified as ok because it&#8217;s their own truth. They are capable of anything. Its not in the least bit surprising to see them going after Haggis. They will turn on anyone at any time because nobody matters. There will be a million lives to come to do things all over again. We are all temporary in this &#8220;unit of time&#8221; (her words) to them. They have no souls and only look for immediate gratification no matter how hollow or immoral it is.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to make blanket statements but it&#8217;s my experience. No morals, no empathy, no credibility and no shame. They don&#8217;t know the meaning of Ethics.</p>
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