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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-429343</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 20:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-429304&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Jere, 
Public repeatedly were REPEATEDLY and relentlessly phoned, written, buttonholed in person  &quot;invited&quot;  via nagging, begging, pleading and vaguely threatening to attend these events.  

Just horrible.  With all that happened to you, you can at least feel fortunate  that you were &quot;tossed out as useless&quot; well before these frequent events became the norm. 

A kind of mental torture because we not only had to attend but we had to PRETEND to  love them, PRETEND that we had enjoyed ourselves. We could NEVER admit that we avoided them whenever possible.

A real, live, ongoing mindfuck.  You had more than your fair share of these, no doubt.  At least you escaped THIS type :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-429304">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Jere,<br />
Public repeatedly were REPEATEDLY and relentlessly phoned, written, buttonholed in person  &#8220;invited&#8221;  via nagging, begging, pleading and vaguely threatening to attend these events.  </p>
<p>Just horrible.  With all that happened to you, you can at least feel fortunate  that you were &#8220;tossed out as useless&#8221; well before these frequent events became the norm. </p>
<p>A kind of mental torture because we not only had to attend but we had to PRETEND to  love them, PRETEND that we had enjoyed ourselves. We could NEVER admit that we avoided them whenever possible.</p>
<p>A real, live, ongoing mindfuck.  You had more than your fair share of these, no doubt.  At least you escaped THIS type 🙂</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 19:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-426261&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Bright ideas, Aqua!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-426261">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Bright ideas, Aqua!</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-429314</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 19:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-426356&quot;&gt;unelectedfloofgoofer&lt;/a&gt;.

How MANY fell for that, I wonder?  Paying for services to be delivered in a future lifetime<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f61c.png" alt="😜" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />.
Did OT VIIIs  ever pay for next L/T&#039;s OT VII?<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f978.png" alt="🥸" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />
OR their next life&#039;s &quot;clear&quot; package? (where they could attest to &quot;past life clear&quot; at full cost.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-426356">unelectedfloofgoofer</a>.</p>
<p>How MANY fell for that, I wonder?  Paying for services to be delivered in a future lifetime™😜.<br />
Did OT VIIIs  ever pay for next L/T&#8217;s OT VII?🥸<br />
OR their next life&#8217;s &#8220;clear&#8221; package? (where they could attest to &#8220;past life clear&#8221; at full cost.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 19:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, the &lt;B&gt;IRONY&lt;/B&gt; of scientology giving &quot;prosperity&quot; seminars! They of course don&#039;t mention the speaker&#039;s own prosperity, at most mentioning his &quot;progress&quot; up the &#039;bridge&#039; or years of servitude at the org.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, the <b>IRONY</b> of scientology giving &#8220;prosperity&#8221; seminars! They of course don&#8217;t mention the speaker&#8217;s own prosperity, at most mentioning his &#8220;progress&#8221; up the &#8216;bridge&#8217; or years of servitude at the org.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-429310</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 19:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-425948&quot;&gt;ISNOINews&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, scratch FUBAR TV off of the list of streaming services *I* might  go for. How much is Davey paying them to carry his wretched self-promotion, anyway?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-425948">ISNOINews</a>.</p>
<p>Well, scratch FUBAR TV off of the list of streaming services *I* might  go for. How much is Davey paying them to carry his wretched self-promotion, anyway?</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-429306</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 18:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-426001&quot;&gt;Zee Moo&lt;/a&gt;.

Kissing ass AND making it go right by making do with the nothing you got/get. At least you&#039;re out of the RPF, so more-or-less  &quot;free&quot;!
The only &quot;freedom&quot; in scientology is the freedom to get in line to get punished again.  At your own cost, no discounts for staff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-426001">Zee Moo</a>.</p>
<p>Kissing ass AND making it go right by making do with the nothing you got/get. At least you&#8217;re out of the RPF, so more-or-less  &#8220;free&#8221;!<br />
The only &#8220;freedom&#8221; in scientology is the freedom to get in line to get punished again.  At your own cost, no discounts for staff.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 18:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-429035&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

That starts me thinking: HOW many non-staff attended these self-congratulatory  Mcsavage-fests? Staff had to, I expect; they had nowhere else to go, but the public had to come IN to attend. how many of them &quot;tried&quot;<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60d.png" alt="😍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> to attend, but suffered breakdowns/accidents of the car, bus, train, or plane they were in?  I suspect it was a regular occurrence, perhaps most times they held those events. Thankfully, I didn&#039;t have to suffer through those things as McSavage didn&#039;t assume power until a decade or two after I was tossed out as useless.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f60e.png" alt="😎" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />.  I&#039;m not sorry to have missed them, and have no interest in watching Miscavage&#039;s self-gratification being re-broadcast to the rapt audiences for the 170th time.
In the far future, some Hubbard re-incarnation will refer to them as &quot;Incident 3&quot;, I guess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-429035">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>That starts me thinking: HOW many non-staff attended these self-congratulatory  Mcsavage-fests? Staff had to, I expect; they had nowhere else to go, but the public had to come IN to attend. how many of them &#8220;tried&#8221;😍 to attend, but suffered breakdowns/accidents of the car, bus, train, or plane they were in?  I suspect it was a regular occurrence, perhaps most times they held those events. Thankfully, I didn&#8217;t have to suffer through those things as McSavage didn&#8217;t assume power until a decade or two after I was tossed out as useless.😎.  I&#8217;m not sorry to have missed them, and have no interest in watching Miscavage&#8217;s self-gratification being re-broadcast to the rapt audiences for the 170th time.<br />
In the far future, some Hubbard re-incarnation will refer to them as &#8220;Incident 3&#8221;, I guess.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 04:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-426387&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Knowing that I would have to do Call In for all the events (and they were just non stop) was the MAIN reason I refused to join staff.  I swear, MORE than the knowledge that I&#039;d make NO money and work 40-50 hours a week, was the dread and I do mean DREAD at the mere thought of having to do Call In for Events.  At best I tolerated events; at worst I  LOATHED them and avoided them whenever I could.  But being on staff?  OMG,  Just the thought of having to call people to get them to come to these things - to call them, over and over and over - to come to these things when I myself couldn&#039;t stand them - no - no, there was no way I could have done that.  I knew I&#039;d never be able to handle that.  It would have made me sick - actually physically sick, and I&#039;m not being funny.  I am not a sickly person, I&#039;m never ill.  BUT I&#039;m totally NOT capable of pretending, of living in a way, ongoingly, that is &quot;false&quot; - for lack of a better term right now - to myself.  I would have fallen ill.  I have a theory that ex staff members with serious health issues after leaving the cult fell sick BECAUSE of this kind of stress.  I can&#039;t prove it but again, I know it would have made ME sick, and maybe I&#039;m not that different or unusual.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-426387">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Knowing that I would have to do Call In for all the events (and they were just non stop) was the MAIN reason I refused to join staff.  I swear, MORE than the knowledge that I&#8217;d make NO money and work 40-50 hours a week, was the dread and I do mean DREAD at the mere thought of having to do Call In for Events.  At best I tolerated events; at worst I  LOATHED them and avoided them whenever I could.  But being on staff?  OMG,  Just the thought of having to call people to get them to come to these things &#8211; to call them, over and over and over &#8211; to come to these things when I myself couldn&#8217;t stand them &#8211; no &#8211; no, there was no way I could have done that.  I knew I&#8217;d never be able to handle that.  It would have made me sick &#8211; actually physically sick, and I&#8217;m not being funny.  I am not a sickly person, I&#8217;m never ill.  BUT I&#8217;m totally NOT capable of pretending, of living in a way, ongoingly, that is &#8220;false&#8221; &#8211; for lack of a better term right now &#8211; to myself.  I would have fallen ill.  I have a theory that ex staff members with serious health issues after leaving the cult fell sick BECAUSE of this kind of stress.  I can&#8217;t prove it but again, I know it would have made ME sick, and maybe I&#8217;m not that different or unusual.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2021 01:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-426257&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aqua, once again you are so right! At Nashville Org we had confirm, reconfirm and rereconfirm. Yep, that&#039;s right. We called our public three times to ensure they were coming to the event. And, I&#039;m sure, pissed them off in the process. 
I am so glad all that is behind me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2-3/#comment-426257">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aqua, once again you are so right! At Nashville Org we had confirm, reconfirm and rereconfirm. Yep, that&#8217;s right. We called our public three times to ensure they were coming to the event. And, I&#8217;m sure, pissed them off in the process.<br />
I am so glad all that is behind me.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2021 15:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whenever I was called for an event I would just tell the chump on the other end that I was already briefed so there was no reason to go.  If they asked how I was briefed I just told them that was confidential and I couldn&#039;t tell them.  Worked every time. They couldn&#039;t say that I needed to still come in order to be regg&#039;ed to death.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I was called for an event I would just tell the chump on the other end that I was already briefed so there was no reason to go.  If they asked how I was briefed I just told them that was confidential and I couldn&#8217;t tell them.  Worked every time. They couldn&#8217;t say that I needed to still come in order to be regg&#8217;ed to death.</p>
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