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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-280138</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279718&quot;&gt;Valerie&lt;/a&gt;.

Valerie offered:
&quot;I know this is comic, but it kind of had me squirming to read the dialogue because the next logical step for this couple is either disconnection or both of them escaping scientology. The way the dialogue was written, it was painfully obvious that disconnection would be the case in this one because the husband was really enjoying that koolaid.&quot;

IMO, RB isn&#039;t quite &quot;comic&quot;, but a sideways look at a  &quot;funny&quot; set of circumstances existing  in a wacky, abusive cult.  I&#039;m not sure whether it&#039;s sarcasm or irony oozing out of the chinks of scn&#039;s armor in RB&#039;s weekly dose of cleansing light. Seems RB should have a disclaimer that the characters are not real people, or however it goes on TV.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279718">Valerie</a>.</p>
<p>Valerie offered:<br />
&#8220;I know this is comic, but it kind of had me squirming to read the dialogue because the next logical step for this couple is either disconnection or both of them escaping scientology. The way the dialogue was written, it was painfully obvious that disconnection would be the case in this one because the husband was really enjoying that koolaid.&#8221;</p>
<p>IMO, RB isn&#8217;t quite &#8220;comic&#8221;, but a sideways look at a  &#8220;funny&#8221; set of circumstances existing  in a wacky, abusive cult.  I&#8217;m not sure whether it&#8217;s sarcasm or irony oozing out of the chinks of scn&#8217;s armor in RB&#8217;s weekly dose of cleansing light. Seems RB should have a disclaimer that the characters are not real people, or however it goes on TV.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-280134</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279724&quot;&gt;Weather Watcher&lt;/a&gt;.

Weather Watcher said:
&quot;O/T. Mike, Fast Eddie Parkin used a stolen image of a pretty little Russian girl (real name is Sabina) to belittle you and Leah with her “gaze”. Some are calling on Twitter to have his Twitter account taken down for these abuses.&quot;

It&#039;s hardly O/T when the discussion is about scn&#039;s lies and abuses. I &quot;piled on&quot; while I was there, my first tweet in YEARS, and possibly my first &quot;reply&quot; twit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279724">Weather Watcher</a>.</p>
<p>Weather Watcher said:<br />
&#8220;O/T. Mike, Fast Eddie Parkin used a stolen image of a pretty little Russian girl (real name is Sabina) to belittle you and Leah with her “gaze”. Some are calling on Twitter to have his Twitter account taken down for these abuses.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hardly O/T when the discussion is about scn&#8217;s lies and abuses. I &#8220;piled on&#8221; while I was there, my first tweet in YEARS, and possibly my first &#8220;reply&#8221; twit.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-280125</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279744&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Most of the dupes are likely too terrified to say anything out loud to their spouses. In fact, I’m surprised the scam has not yet resorted to bugging all the homes and cars of all their dupes.&quot;

No need for that when the spouses snitch on each other and when sec checks uncover that individuals are having that internal &quot;conversation&quot;.  Even THOUGHTS can get the current members  in trouble; ANY contraindicated thought can be the string that&#039;s pulled to throw them to the &#039;ethics&#039; officer like the Christians to the lions a few years ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279744">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Most of the dupes are likely too terrified to say anything out loud to their spouses. In fact, I’m surprised the scam has not yet resorted to bugging all the homes and cars of all their dupes.&#8221;</p>
<p>No need for that when the spouses snitch on each other and when sec checks uncover that individuals are having that internal &#8220;conversation&#8221;.  Even THOUGHTS can get the current members  in trouble; ANY contraindicated thought can be the string that&#8217;s pulled to throw them to the &#8216;ethics&#8217; officer like the Christians to the lions a few years ago.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-280119</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2019 03:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279813&quot;&gt;Kyle&lt;/a&gt;.

Kyle said:
&quot;Like smoking, Scientology has rapidly become a toxic label. Current members with any social sensitivity are UTR, and new recruits are going to be few and far between.&quot;

IMO, UTRs are not &quot;current members. They&#039;re mostly out the door and trying not to be noticed as not entirely  &quot;with it&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279813">Kyle</a>.</p>
<p>Kyle said:<br />
&#8220;Like smoking, Scientology has rapidly become a toxic label. Current members with any social sensitivity are UTR, and new recruits are going to be few and far between.&#8221;</p>
<p>IMO, UTRs are not &#8220;current members. They&#8217;re mostly out the door and trying not to be noticed as not entirely  &#8220;with it&#8221;.</p>
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		By: KSWTF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279744&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

This has actually happened to myself...!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279744">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>This has actually happened to myself&#8230;!</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2019 15:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279778&quot;&gt;Robert King&lt;/a&gt;.

Robert, US law enforcement agencies are basically lazy and criminal.  I&#039;ve called police while someone was being kidnapped at gun point and was told I could talk to a detective later in the day.  Of course they found the body dumped in an alley the next day.  

If you want to get the attention of them just announce that you are investigating X agency and you&#039;ll have them swarming you in 2 seconds...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279778">Robert King</a>.</p>
<p>Robert, US law enforcement agencies are basically lazy and criminal.  I&#8217;ve called police while someone was being kidnapped at gun point and was told I could talk to a detective later in the day.  Of course they found the body dumped in an alley the next day.  </p>
<p>If you want to get the attention of them just announce that you are investigating X agency and you&#8217;ll have them swarming you in 2 seconds&#8230;</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2019 15:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279808&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Val, DM won&#039;t be writing ex-SO staff checks for back wages.  That is not gonna happen.  As I stated above.  People have to file criminal charges, in a timely manner is best.  Or, go after the CoS for NOT fulfilling its duty as a not for profit.  Or get DM for enurement ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279808">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Val, DM won&#8217;t be writing ex-SO staff checks for back wages.  That is not gonna happen.  As I stated above.  People have to file criminal charges, in a timely manner is best.  Or, go after the CoS for NOT fulfilling its duty as a not for profit.  Or get DM for enurement &#8230;</p>
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		By: Valerie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2019 01:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279808&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

It would probably end up like Steve Martin in the Jerk https://youtu.be/qaz2hxZLycY

Writing a bunch of individual checks for $1.09 to each person.  But, hey, if David Miscavige had to write each individual one, it would be worth it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279808">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>It would probably end up like Steve Martin in the Jerk <a href="https://youtu.be/qaz2hxZLycY" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/qaz2hxZLycY</a></p>
<p>Writing a bunch of individual checks for $1.09 to each person.  But, hey, if David Miscavige had to write each individual one, it would be worth it.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2019 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279808&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

I noted that much of the assets will end up in the pockets of lawyers - under almost any scenario.

What is you are referring to that supposedly cannot happen?

I had a quick look for the most extreme of precedents, and in 1979 California even placed the Worldwide Church of God in receivership under the the state&#039;s charitable-trust law, due to allegations of massive fraud including extravagant spending by leaders - and an appeal was denied by the Supreme Court.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279808">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>I noted that much of the assets will end up in the pockets of lawyers &#8211; under almost any scenario.</p>
<p>What is you are referring to that supposedly cannot happen?</p>
<p>I had a quick look for the most extreme of precedents, and in 1979 California even placed the Worldwide Church of God in receivership under the the state&#8217;s charitable-trust law, due to allegations of massive fraud including extravagant spending by leaders &#8211; and an appeal was denied by the Supreme Court.</p>
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		By: Kyle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2019 13:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279768&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Time.

Like smoking, Scientology has rapidly become a toxic label.   Current members with any social sensitivity are UTR, and new recruits are going to be few and far between.

Anyone new bodies from the U.S. wanting to join are probably damaged goods.

If there is no dramatic collapse, time and exposure will bring inevitable dissolution from attrition.

Considering NOI and lawsuits, my money is on dramatic implosion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-200/#comment-279768">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Time.</p>
<p>Like smoking, Scientology has rapidly become a toxic label.   Current members with any social sensitivity are UTR, and new recruits are going to be few and far between.</p>
<p>Anyone new bodies from the U.S. wanting to join are probably damaged goods.</p>
<p>If there is no dramatic collapse, time and exposure will bring inevitable dissolution from attrition.</p>
<p>Considering NOI and lawsuits, my money is on dramatic implosion.</p>
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