Good things? Narconon is responsible in part for my brother’s death. Their “rehab” failed because it’s just a combination of the communications course of Scientology and LRH’s junk science Purification Rundown. Utter B.S. Had we known Narconon was run by Scientology, we would have sent him to a reputable program like Betty Ford or Hazelden. Narconon took away his last chance. Fuck Narconon and everyone associated with it.

Maybe because they mislead and lie to people about their association with CoS?
If they are doing so much good in this world – wouldn’t they want to let people know who they are associated with – wouldn’t it be advantageous to show people that the CoS is doing good things?

It’s ok – you don’t have to answer – because we all know the answer already. The last thing ANYONE wants to be associated with is the CoS – because they all know the real truth about it and its front groups etc.

Aqua, I might say that cutting ties is more appropriate than burning bridges, to categorize it roughly. Maybe not destroy all reminders of someone, but box them up and put them away.

I think it depends on the situation, also. If someone got involved with a group that the family wasn’t in, then I’d say the responsibility can be put on them to restore their family relationships, not for the family to do anything. In the case of a family whose members left the group, then it’s trickier, other than perhaps to try to point out that there’s still a responsibility for maintaining communication and relationships, and respecting beliefs – which presumably includes the absence of belief – that even Hubbard ostensibly honored.

Again, I’d want to know what someone experienced in dealing with these situations suggest as most effective. If you really want to know, you could try writing Steve Hassan – I’d love to see him do a piece on the topic, as there’s not much that I can readily find on his website, and I don’t have my copy of his latest book to go looking through right now.

Well, Fool, since the body doesn’t store EM radiation nor does its fat store and release toxins like El Con Retard claimed, the stated “EP” is irrelevant.

When I learned the measles outbreak was tracked to a Sea Ogre being the source of the outbreak I immediately felt so bad for her ( I believe it was a female). Knowing she would be shipped off to the RPF, if not The Hole, for MANY years. Her crime? Bring Black PR not only to Scamology, but to Little Mans’ pride and joy The Fleecewinds.

Nonsense, again of course. Narconon was in existence decades before the idea of donating anything to anyone was even mooted. So again your little assumed and negative-sounding theory is shown to be the balderdash that it is. But no doubt many here will nod their heads and agree with your nonsense.

Why anyone would want to criticize people like the Narconon staff who are operating stalwartly in probably the most difficult scenario one could conceive of is beyond me! But aha! I have just had yet another cognition! I am not a psychologist who is trying her damndest to shoot anything worthwhile down in flames!

Why don’t you dudes and gals just stick to your normal (now boring however) lines of attacking IAS and Ideal Orgs or whatever takes your daft fancies. You can even slate 3 swing F/Ns! There – how about that?

Nonsense Bruce, I have a friend who worked for Narconon Berlin and he delivered Drug Rundowns (in the 70s) and other auditing to the addicts and the Berlin local authority even paid for the auditing.

As to the EP of the Purif, it’s all stated in the HCOBs which you might care to read before offering your opinion.

One last thing: somehow, someway get across to your kids that you are HAPPY and BUSY.

No matter how miserable you are, no matter how lonely and empty your lives are without them DO NOT LET THEM KNOW.

They’re NOT going to come back to you out of sorrow for you suffering, you know!

If they had any compassion in them they wouldn’t have left you in the first place.

So somehow, someway, get the concept across to them that you have a busy, happy, fulfilled life. You loved them dearly and would have enjoyed them being PART OF your life but they chose not to be , and besides, they were not EVERYTHING in your life anyway.

You think that’s cruel? Unloving?

It isn’t.

Because THIS is how THEY think – about YOU.

YOU are not their whole life either.

When YOU were their age, were YOUR parents YOUR whole life?

They’ll relate.

Busy, happy, filled with interesting activities and plans. How nice if they were part of it!

That’s the concept.

After unceremoniously dumping you, they’ll respect you for this.

On your side,
Aqua

You’re right, Peacemaker. What I wrote was FAR too accusatory in tone and as such, ill advised.

The basic concept of telling the person its ok for them to go if they want to can be communicated with no unworkable, gratuitous make wrong of the person.

They want to leave? Make them right!

That will rock their world!

ESPECIALLY if you’re calm, kindly, friendly.

Actually, its essential that you DO communicate this way because it will knock them for a loop.

Not only have their cult masters prepped them to expect and handle anger, bitterness, grief and tears, these “kids” also KNOW how poor old Mom and Dad live for their love.

And take yourself away as an option for them, Mom and Dad,sitting around, wishing, hoping, crying, for them to come back. Let them guess about that. If you let them go calmly they WILL wonder and guess. “Why is she taking this so calmly? Did Mom and Dad really ever love me? If they did, why weren’t they hysterical? What’s Dad up to? Does he even still THINK about me? Was I THAT forgettable?”

Leave them in mystery. Whatever YOUR real intentions, let THEM wonder.

Let the concept SINK IN that they don’t necessarily have “an infinity of time” to get back in comm. Mom and Dad just might have MOVED ON! Or maybe they’re in the process of moving on right now. Or maybe…or perhaps….

Stick their attention.

Why should they think about you and miss you when they KNOW that you’re ALWAYS always always and forever and ever thinking about THEM.

The cult knows this very well, too, and uses it against you.