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		By: alcoboyy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178610</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alcoboyy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178359&quot;&gt;April&lt;/a&gt;.

Save that LRH quote. I&#039;m sure that Miscavige will edit it like he edited all of LRH&#039;s books.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178359">April</a>.</p>
<p>Save that LRH quote. I&#8217;m sure that Miscavige will edit it like he edited all of LRH&#8217;s books.</p>
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		By: alcoboyy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178608</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alcoboyy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178296&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Put me down for eleven!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178296">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>Put me down for eleven!</p>
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		By: alcoboyy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178607</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alcoboyy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178232&quot;&gt;Sarita Shoemaker&lt;/a&gt;.

I can just see it now:
An overcrowded bus careens off a cliff packed to capacity with panicking passengers. The caption reads: Another typical day in Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178232">Sarita Shoemaker</a>.</p>
<p>I can just see it now:<br />
An overcrowded bus careens off a cliff packed to capacity with panicking passengers. The caption reads: Another typical day in Scientology.</p>
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		By: alcoboyy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178606</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alcoboyy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178271&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, I dunno. I escaped somehow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178271">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, I dunno. I escaped somehow.</p>
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		By: alcoboyy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178604</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alcoboyy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178263&quot;&gt;angry gay pope&lt;/a&gt;.

Or all four tires flat like the VM van at CCNashville.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178263">angry gay pope</a>.</p>
<p>Or all four tires flat like the VM van at CCNashville.</p>
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		By: Deb		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178522</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2017 17:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178291&quot;&gt;Clearly not clear&lt;/a&gt;.

I thought it was Pete Sukuoff. At least that&#039;s what they call him in the cult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178291">Clearly not clear</a>.</p>
<p>I thought it was Pete Sukuoff. At least that&#8217;s what they call him in the cult.</p>
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		By: Stephen Hutcheon		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178485</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Hutcheon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178278&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes they get a percentage - I think it used to be 10% - not sure on the exact percentage? This is the main public Regis, usually the OTV&#039;s and upwards, hence why they will go around Org&#039;s in their county or neighbouring country and be &#039;guest speakers&#039; etc. back in the early stages of the Ideal Org push I knew some public Regis, where making $40,000 plus for a few hour work!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178278">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Yes they get a percentage &#8211; I think it used to be 10% &#8211; not sure on the exact percentage? This is the main public Regis, usually the OTV&#8217;s and upwards, hence why they will go around Org&#8217;s in their county or neighbouring country and be &#8216;guest speakers&#8217; etc. back in the early stages of the Ideal Org push I knew some public Regis, where making $40,000 plus for a few hour work!!</p>
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		By: Stephen Hutcheon		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178483</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Hutcheon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I received a similar letter about 6 years ago - I was brain washed enough and stupid enough to hand over ANOTHER $50,000 - that was my business down the toilet right there. Has taken me 10 years to pay off all my debt but has left me hanging with a credit rating from hell! No fun at the time when you couldn&#039;t even get money to pay rent and having to go to a charity to get food vouchers to feed your family.... because guess what.. your so called friends in the church were even in a similar situation or the so called OT&#039;s would just say &quot;make it go right&quot; or &quot;just pay for your next step on the bridge&quot; and I would say &quot;what with&quot; and they would say &quot;make it go right&quot;.....now that&#039;s a mind fuck!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received a similar letter about 6 years ago &#8211; I was brain washed enough and stupid enough to hand over ANOTHER $50,000 &#8211; that was my business down the toilet right there. Has taken me 10 years to pay off all my debt but has left me hanging with a credit rating from hell! No fun at the time when you couldn&#8217;t even get money to pay rent and having to go to a charity to get food vouchers to feed your family&#8230;. because guess what.. your so called friends in the church were even in a similar situation or the so called OT&#8217;s would just say &#8220;make it go right&#8221; or &#8220;just pay for your next step on the bridge&#8221; and I would say &#8220;what with&#8221; and they would say &#8220;make it go right&#8221;&#8230;..now that&#8217;s a mind fuck!</p>
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		By: Martin Nielsen		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178479</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Nielsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2017 10:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178366&quot;&gt;Karen Schless pressley&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep, and it just shows how a person can take anything LRH said and bend it to their own purposes. I just finished reading the whole reference, and using that quote in that context is not what I get out of that reference. 

When I was in, this was every ones favorite game: Take whatever LRH said, and bend it so it can be used to make the other person wrong and make you right. The context where the quote came from made no difference as long as you would get people to do whatever you wanted them to do. Donations, coming in on Sundays on your day off, people calling from TUEU to get you to do a translation of a reference that was &quot;vital to get done right now&quot;, watching a part of a event video TWO times and doing wordclearing in between all while the CMO missionaire was keeping an eye on everyone.

It all comes down to this: You are the public (or staff), and you exist to serve and feed the church your time, money and all your lifes energy. If you are doing anything less than that, you are not taking full responsibility and if you have no money left you are not applying LRH policy in your life, and there are areas of your life where you are not running on full reponsibility. We can help you with that... here is some intensives and these are the courses you need... and so you get the dwindling spiral...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178366">Karen Schless pressley</a>.</p>
<p>Yep, and it just shows how a person can take anything LRH said and bend it to their own purposes. I just finished reading the whole reference, and using that quote in that context is not what I get out of that reference. </p>
<p>When I was in, this was every ones favorite game: Take whatever LRH said, and bend it so it can be used to make the other person wrong and make you right. The context where the quote came from made no difference as long as you would get people to do whatever you wanted them to do. Donations, coming in on Sundays on your day off, people calling from TUEU to get you to do a translation of a reference that was &#8220;vital to get done right now&#8221;, watching a part of a event video TWO times and doing wordclearing in between all while the CMO missionaire was keeping an eye on everyone.</p>
<p>It all comes down to this: You are the public (or staff), and you exist to serve and feed the church your time, money and all your lifes energy. If you are doing anything less than that, you are not taking full responsibility and if you have no money left you are not applying LRH policy in your life, and there are areas of your life where you are not running on full reponsibility. We can help you with that&#8230; here is some intensives and these are the courses you need&#8230; and so you get the dwindling spiral&#8230;</p>
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		By: Dead Men Tell No Tales		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/fundraising-scientology-style/#comment-178443</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dead Men Tell No Tales]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2017 03:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t extortion against the law? 
     This seems pretty close to extortion to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t extortion against the law?<br />
     This seems pretty close to extortion to me.</p>
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