Thank you🙏🏽

This guy Cardone certainly is a piece of work. At the Madison Square Garden fascist rally last week,
“Businessman Grant Cardone told the crowd that Harris ‘and her pimp handlers will destroy our country.'”

As Hubbard said, “The overt doth speak loudly in accusation.” Nowadays we call it PROJECTION.

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Hi Mike Rinder, please pass my email address on to Aquamarine. I’d like to continue my conversation with her regarding cults, race, American history, etc.
Thanks for providing this blog and this forum for us to respond/comment in.
Big Love to you and your loved ones!
Mark

Mark, in response to what you have endured as an African American youth in a racist society I can only think and say, “I am sorry”…wildly inadequate…”I am so sorry, I am so ashamed for my country.”

Full disclosure: my great, great, great, great grandfather was one of the Signers of the Declaration of Independence.

The USA was, is, a great experiment in governance “for the people, of the people, by the people etc.” but from the beginning there was a fatal policy flaw, a blind spot, a serious outpoint. namely the acceptance and ongoing legality of African slavery.

From the minute the Colonies declared itself independent from England with THAT document, and with what it unequivocally states are the inalienable rights to liberty and the pursutit of happiness and the fact that ALL men are created eqal – that every single living slave in America at the time was not AUTOMATICALLY set free from their owners by this document, was, by way of vast understatement, a very serious error.

The Declaration of Independence was an extremely radical document in declaring all men to be created equal. j

So far as it went, it was excellent policy for a new country; the problem was that this good, workable, sustainable policy did not get applied to a group of Americans who were a large portion of the population at that time, nor was it even acknowledged at the time that it SHOULD be applied.

“We hold these truths to be self evident…” Great words, gre powerful words, but by not acknowledging (or even possibly not realizing or knowing) that their African American slaves fell into the category of “men” i.e, human beings the Signers effectively ignored, denied and/or justified the humanity of millions of Americans.

In brief, Mark, I believe that the seeds that would capable of growing into what could destroy democracy in this country were planted by the non-application of this policy.

They were poisonous seeds, that became seedlings that grew into poisonous plants which choked the growth of healthy plants…at some point we saw how wrong it all was and freed the slaves and enacted other laws, etc. , we started hacking away at the poisonous monstrous weeds, cutting them down, uprooting them when possible, but we allowed them to take too strong a hold, and we’ve been hacking thru them for over a hundred years.

Freeing the slaves and enacting laws prohibiting discrimination against people of color was necessary but it came way too late – too little, too late. Racism is a habit with many white people Americans. That some humans are inately inferior is to them “self evident” by virtue of their darker skin color. Its quite simple, really. The darker skinned they are, the more inferior. Asking them to relinquish these ingrained beliefs is to me a waste of time. All that can be done with people like this is to ensure that laws forbidding such discrimination are enforced. Also giving breaks via Affirmative Action to African Americans helps a lot. I thnk public reparations would help also. Of course policies like this enrages such people. They’ve barely gotten used to the concept of obeying discrimination laws, and that racial slurs are no longer condoned. Thus we have Trump who gives them a “voice” which means its OK for them to racially slur, fear and hate those with darker skins be they African Americans , Hispanic immigrants, Muslim Americans, or whatever. And speaking of fear, there IS fear, they ARE afraid, VERY afraid, these Americans, of being no longer in the majority. Obama being elected President was a HUGE wake up call for them that the tide is turning and their white skin does not grant them automatic superiority. And the fact that he’s an intelligent, educated, articulate, well mannered man who is also a faithful husband and a good father – Mark, I tell you, these people hate Obama with a purple passion.

The good news is that this group of Americans are for the most part quite old, and dying out. In my work I interact continually with mostly Generation Z. For the most part I find them refreshingly without racial prejudice, these 20 somethings. Of course I’m in an urban area so I can only speak regarding what I directly observe.

I’m probably as pale as any Caucasian American woman could be. I was the only child of older parents, who married when they were older, who had each worked for many years before they married. Each in their own jobs before marriage had travelled all over the world, met and mingled with and befriended people of other nationalities, races, religions, skin colors, etc. They had also met and mingled with and befriended other Americans who had done the same. They were not “elites” nor were they wealthy but they were not provincial people either. Their life’s experiences afforded them a certain cosmopolitan nonchalance, and certain, “so what?” viewpoint regarding people who were different from them. They raised me in their understanding that peoples’ differences were not necessarily threatening and frequently interesting with regard to their differences; to my parents, differences in culture, language, nationality, skin color etc were not a big deal and they raised me with their viewpoint …I didn’t have them very long but I consider myself lucky to have been their child.

On a positive note my work puts me in touch with a lot of young 20-somethings who are refreshingly not prejudiced -at least from what I’ve observed over the past 10 years. That said there’s still a long way to go. The old racist Americans have to die off, though. They have too much political power, and they’re not going to change. In the meantime, before they die, they have to be made to obey the law no matter how much they hate and resent it. I do believe we’re at a real turning point in our collective attitude with regard to race.

This post has been so off topic but only you will be reading it so maybe Mike will let it go thru 🙂

Yes, so true. Whatever the historical period, whatever the culture, whatever the geographical location: it’s about money, resources, land, and the control of the people and the areas where the “valuables” are located.
Same shit, different centuries…
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Same as it has always been in America…I remember being the lone black kid in my 8th grade social studies class and calling Nixon a crook in a class discussion, as a couple of popular white girls(who worked on their suntans with great discipline) muttered “nigger” as I spoke, just loud enough for everyone in the class to hear them. And, no, the teacher didn’t correct them or throw them out of the class. In the same school I was assaulted by a teacher and I ended being suspended(long, fucked up story). That’s the kind of “every day racism” that every single person in my family has experienced. Just ‘normal shit’. And that’s mild compared to being…bought, sold, and treated as an animal, as a piece of property… We can’t even teach the actual, sordid history of our country in our schools-you know, the slavery, the wiping out of(i.e. GENOCIDE of) over 100 indigenous tribes, the land theft, et cetera ad nauseam…Insistence on discussing these kinds of historical facts is currently regarded by a sizeable segment of the American populace as some kind of character defect and/or plain ol’ stupidity and evidence of one’s innate inferiority…
IT’S FUCKING DEPRESSING AND INFURIATING!
Cheers to you Aqua for the historical perspective…though I have to say that Britain has definitely NOT come to terms with its history or its ethnic diversity…
*Sigh*
But…we carry on. Hugs.

Mark, I thought I’d jump in here to point out the latest racist crap from Trump’s most recent rally in NYC with Cardone as one of the speakers. The opening speaker, an internet comic and podcaster set the tone for the rally by calling Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. Cardone addressed the audience in the most vulgar, low class way. So very “theta”… What a “product” of Scientology this man is! Both inside Madison Square and outside the entire event was replete with vile insults and racial slurs to immigrants, African Americans and Hispanic Americans…forget dog whistling, they have bullhorns now. And Cardone is totally linked with all of it. So much for Scientology’s inclusiveness and embrace of all races, creeds, nationaliities, etc. Why, if it weren’t for immigrants the cult would have no Sea Org members left!

Hear hear. Scientology is our fur themselves. Remember their live fir Clinton and Travolta sucking up? Now trump.

I just hope everyone votes their conscience. The number of comments here might get to Highest Evers just before Thurs at 2.

We all agree there’s a lot of people hurt by the cult. Here’s to survivors everywhere getting healed from the trauma.