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		By: VICTOR SUNSTAR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2018 00:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[YEAH... I WAS HELPING DAVID MAYO IN ST. BARBARA
and I was beaten by one of those goons. I&#039;ve never forgotten it... 

For those who think this might be simply allegorical, I can assure you, this EXACT quote was used to justify the actions of the ORIGINAL “Squirrel Busters.” Dennis Clark and a few friends were sent to “bust up” meetings of David Mayo’s AAC and physically intimidate David Mayo, his staff and public.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEAH&#8230; I WAS HELPING DAVID MAYO IN ST. BARBARA<br />
and I was beaten by one of those goons. I&#8217;ve never forgotten it&#8230; </p>
<p>For those who think this might be simply allegorical, I can assure you, this EXACT quote was used to justify the actions of the ORIGINAL “Squirrel Busters.” Dennis Clark and a few friends were sent to “bust up” meetings of David Mayo’s AAC and physically intimidate David Mayo, his staff and public.</p>
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		By: Michelle		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-215929</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2018 07:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-215860&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mike ,
Thank you for taking the time to reply and providing a forum where I feel comfortable to contribute to the discussion .
When the commune became aware of Sheelas criminal acts it was truly devastating and shocking as only a very small group around Sheela participated . I was not in any position of responsibility,power or authority. I am  grateful that I was never put in situation where my personal ethics were tested and i could remain blissfully ignorant

  .What was particularly difficult to comprehend is that Bhagwans teachings were supposed to be all about &quot;Bringing awareness &quot; Living lovingly and everything that had occurred was the antithesis.of love, life, laughter.
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Since watching the series (Wild Wild Country) , I have tried to ask myself all the difficult questions.
Such as &quot;Would I have participated if Sheella had put me in that position ?&quot;
To be honest at THAT time I&#039;m not sure what i would have done . I had remembered my time at the ranch with deep affection.as halcyon days.. i had &quot;conveniently&quot; erased the criminal acts from my memory.

What i have hopefully learnt is to understand how dangerous the concept of &quot;for the greater good.&quot; can be

. Its also interesting that people can point  the finger and judge others  and say &quot;how could you be so stupid to be in a cult ?.&quot; How could you allow yourself to be influenced and commit horrible acts.&quot; When the veil is lifted, one can hopefully gain a deep understanding of how easily influenced we can all be in all aspects of society. 
 I have observed  that you have a heightened sensitivity, awareness and &quot;bullshit meter&quot;.That you question everything, reach inside in order to live with integrity. love and empathy.

Once one has a lived experienced of not listening to ones own truth, of not questioning,or allowing others to influence ones own intrinsic code of ethics it gives you the passion to NEVER LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN !!
For example it would make one wary of participating in a mindless chant at a political rally, it would encourage one to seek the facts before making a decision. It would give you the courage to confront an unethical person in a position of power or authority.

I must say it is beyond belief how cruel and twisted Scientology behaves towards people who decide to leave. From my understanding ( correct me if i am wrong) the reason behind it is because Ron Hubbard said so !!
It must be difficult enough to have to disconnect from family and friends without the added stress of being constantly harassed. I have nothing but deep admiration and respect for the strength and resilience that ex Scientologists show.I know that some cults and religions shun people who leave (J.W) but no other group focuses such hateful abuse. You are all extraordinary amazing people my heart goes out to you.

Much love]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-215860">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mike ,<br />
Thank you for taking the time to reply and providing a forum where I feel comfortable to contribute to the discussion .<br />
When the commune became aware of Sheelas criminal acts it was truly devastating and shocking as only a very small group around Sheela participated . I was not in any position of responsibility,power or authority. I am  grateful that I was never put in situation where my personal ethics were tested and i could remain blissfully ignorant</p>
<p>  .What was particularly difficult to comprehend is that Bhagwans teachings were supposed to be all about &#8220;Bringing awareness &#8221; Living lovingly and everything that had occurred was the antithesis.of love, life, laughter.<br />
 .<br />
Since watching the series (Wild Wild Country) , I have tried to ask myself all the difficult questions.<br />
Such as &#8220;Would I have participated if Sheella had put me in that position ?&#8221;<br />
To be honest at THAT time I&#8217;m not sure what i would have done . I had remembered my time at the ranch with deep affection.as halcyon days.. i had &#8220;conveniently&#8221; erased the criminal acts from my memory.</p>
<p>What i have hopefully learnt is to understand how dangerous the concept of &#8220;for the greater good.&#8221; can be</p>
<p>. Its also interesting that people can point  the finger and judge others  and say &#8220;how could you be so stupid to be in a cult ?.&#8221; How could you allow yourself to be influenced and commit horrible acts.&#8221; When the veil is lifted, one can hopefully gain a deep understanding of how easily influenced we can all be in all aspects of society.<br />
 I have observed  that you have a heightened sensitivity, awareness and &#8220;bullshit meter&#8221;.That you question everything, reach inside in order to live with integrity. love and empathy.</p>
<p>Once one has a lived experienced of not listening to ones own truth, of not questioning,or allowing others to influence ones own intrinsic code of ethics it gives you the passion to NEVER LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN !!<br />
For example it would make one wary of participating in a mindless chant at a political rally, it would encourage one to seek the facts before making a decision. It would give you the courage to confront an unethical person in a position of power or authority.</p>
<p>I must say it is beyond belief how cruel and twisted Scientology behaves towards people who decide to leave. From my understanding ( correct me if i am wrong) the reason behind it is because Ron Hubbard said so !!<br />
It must be difficult enough to have to disconnect from family and friends without the added stress of being constantly harassed. I have nothing but deep admiration and respect for the strength and resilience that ex Scientologists show.I know that some cults and religions shun people who leave (J.W) but no other group focuses such hateful abuse. You are all extraordinary amazing people my heart goes out to you.</p>
<p>Much love</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-214534&quot;&gt;Worthy Oriental Gentleman&lt;/a&gt;.

Worthy Oriental Gentleman.  Hubbard was only half kidding about RJ-45.  You are not familiar enough with the man.  If he KNEW he wouldn&#039;t be caught, RJ-45 WOULD have been used on those he was talking about...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-214534">Worthy Oriental Gentleman</a>.</p>
<p>Worthy Oriental Gentleman.  Hubbard was only half kidding about RJ-45.  You are not familiar enough with the man.  If he KNEW he wouldn&#8217;t be caught, RJ-45 WOULD have been used on those he was talking about&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-215860</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-215849&quot;&gt;Michelle Pravesha Hethorn&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for joining the discussion here Michelle. 

Your view is invaluable and you highlight something I think is important to be understood. Most “cult members” are good people seeking answers for themselves and often wanting to help others. In my view it is the abdication if thinking for yourself and instead relying on a guru that turns good people bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-215849">Michelle Pravesha Hethorn</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for joining the discussion here Michelle. </p>
<p>Your view is invaluable and you highlight something I think is important to be understood. Most “cult members” are good people seeking answers for themselves and often wanting to help others. In my view it is the abdication if thinking for yourself and instead relying on a guru that turns good people bad.</p>
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		By: Michelle Pravesha Hethorn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Pravesha Hethorn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 14:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Mike,,
Thankyou for sharing your journey with such openness . I have incredible admiration for your capacity to look within and live with integrity and courage. I have watched every Aftermath program and have regularly read your blog for a couple of years. 
This particular post about Wild Wild Country touched me in a particularly personal way as  I was a Sannyasin (Orange person) and living on the ranch for the last 6 months of its existence, or when the proverbial &quot;.shit hit the fan.&quot;
It was shocking for me to view the series as I had to acknowledge and take responsibility for the truth that people I had trusted had committed horrible and horrific crimes.It has been both painful and powerful to watch from another perspective.Lots of confusing thoughts and I will admit to being deeply embarrassed that I was one of those crazy orange people.
My reason for becoming a follower of Osho was to meditate to, live and love with totality intensity and passion.
My memory of that period in my life was of joy,laughter, love, friendship and utter bliss.. I left not long after Osho left for India living with friends in Seattle,. I then spent time in the ashram in India before Osho died. 
Eventually i returned to Australia and when Osho died I was actually grateful to move on with my life and take it in a new  direction
Although i have some wonderful friends from that time I have no desire to search for a guru and have developed a highly sensitive bull shit meter.

Thank you for providing a safe place where i can be open and honest, 
P.S Your TV show is compelling,powerful and full of heart]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,,<br />
Thankyou for sharing your journey with such openness . I have incredible admiration for your capacity to look within and live with integrity and courage. I have watched every Aftermath program and have regularly read your blog for a couple of years.<br />
This particular post about Wild Wild Country touched me in a particularly personal way as  I was a Sannyasin (Orange person) and living on the ranch for the last 6 months of its existence, or when the proverbial &#8220;.shit hit the fan.&#8221;<br />
It was shocking for me to view the series as I had to acknowledge and take responsibility for the truth that people I had trusted had committed horrible and horrific crimes.It has been both painful and powerful to watch from another perspective.Lots of confusing thoughts and I will admit to being deeply embarrassed that I was one of those crazy orange people.<br />
My reason for becoming a follower of Osho was to meditate to, live and love with totality intensity and passion.<br />
My memory of that period in my life was of joy,laughter, love, friendship and utter bliss.. I left not long after Osho left for India living with friends in Seattle,. I then spent time in the ashram in India before Osho died.<br />
Eventually i returned to Australia and when Osho died I was actually grateful to move on with my life and take it in a new  direction<br />
Although i have some wonderful friends from that time I have no desire to search for a guru and have developed a highly sensitive bull shit meter.</p>
<p>Thank you for providing a safe place where i can be open and honest,<br />
P.S Your TV show is compelling,powerful and full of heart</p>
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		By: Michelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-214407&quot;&gt;Marcel Wenger&lt;/a&gt;.

https://youtu.be/zWkakA7FPCE  Thought you might enjoy this gem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-214407">Marcel Wenger</a>.</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/zWkakA7FPCE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/zWkakA7FPCE</a>  Thought you might enjoy this gem.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-215084</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2018 20:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-214485&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Hate? The only hate here is in the comments that are made here that I mostly reply to. Perhaps you should read the other comments? You are obviously annoyed that I won&#039;t roll over and let people get away with spouting nonsense and - hate! Or should I join in with the hate-festival going on here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-214485">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Hate? The only hate here is in the comments that are made here that I mostly reply to. Perhaps you should read the other comments? You are obviously annoyed that I won&#8217;t roll over and let people get away with spouting nonsense and &#8211; hate! Or should I join in with the hate-festival going on here?</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2018 19:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-214993&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, after reading your painstaking effort I don&#039;t actually see any violence being committed unless you conceive throwing a few eggs and shouting to be so! This is exactly proving my point. The Scientologists in this case were doing relatively nothing and yet here you are making out as if these people were running around with machine guns.

There was more violence in the 1 incident at the Youtube office shootings yesterday than in 50 years of Scientology. Yet you haven&#039;t painstakingly written long screeds on Animal Rights websites accusing all activists of violence have you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-214993">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Well, after reading your painstaking effort I don&#8217;t actually see any violence being committed unless you conceive throwing a few eggs and shouting to be so! This is exactly proving my point. The Scientologists in this case were doing relatively nothing and yet here you are making out as if these people were running around with machine guns.</p>
<p>There was more violence in the 1 incident at the Youtube office shootings yesterday than in 50 years of Scientology. Yet you haven&#8217;t painstakingly written long screeds on Animal Rights websites accusing all activists of violence have you?</p>
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		By: PeopleAren'tThatBad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-214518&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Foolproof, Why do you hate people?, the only person your degrading here is yourself. I hope one day you find out who you really are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/handle-enemies/#comment-214518">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Foolproof, Why do you hate people?, the only person your degrading here is yourself. I hope one day you find out who you really are.</p>
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		By: Scientology Takes Over the World		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2018 12:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] to take over the world. He believe this was what he had been sent to earth to accomplish (see earlier post addressing his assertion that he was &#8220;not from this [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to take over the world. He believe this was what he had been sent to earth to accomplish (see earlier post addressing his assertion that he was &#8220;not from this [&#8230;]</p>
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