The “short summary” of Dio is “ego-centrist”, in this case, aka “Scientologist” . . .

To EVERYONE reading this exchange . . . There are a LOT of Scientological “acronyms” and “terminology being used here. I think a GLOSSARY of “Scientologese” may be helpful . . . It was to ME !

http://www.bible.ca/scientology-dictonary-terms.htm

What was LRH’s major “MU” ?

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=15226

Dave F.

More fundamentalism…

Such amazing capacity to inform others what is wrong with them with absolute certainty.

Truly, I have no objection, in fact I am happy for you, that you are certain you have found the answers to all of life and livingness as described by LRH.

I just wish your certainty of self didnt have to come with a certainty of what is wrong with everyone else that they have not achieved their own certainty.

Mike,

You have a significant MU.

You did not read my posts carefully.

Therefore you are not talking about the same kind of scn, I am.

You are talking about standard tech and as done in the church.

I did not do standard tech, and did not do it in the church.

There is a right way and a wrong way to do almost everything.

The problem with standard tech is that it has a fair bit of false and limiting data.

Even many of those in the fz are doing that “standard tech” and it really messes people up, while making them feel like they got it right.

The best they got is a false clear.

The church is a separate factor, that fucks people up on a whole different level.

The problem is compounded in the church.
That is the short story.

I did it it on my own, my way, at home, the right way.

I identified the false and limiting data.

If people did it the right way, there is no good reason that the odds of success would not be 100%.

Dio

DIo,

Explain this . . .

With only “4 days” of contact with CoS, how were you in any position to say, “It was during that time, that I realized that the place was an asylum being run by the inmates.” ?

Also, if, as you claim ,”the place was an asylum being run by the inmates”, would you have continued in it, “on the outside” ?

QUOTE : “During those 4 days in the church, I had a bk 1 demo, and keyed out, very well.

I was amazed.

Then I did two intro courses, Ups and downs and Personal values.”

END QUOTE :

Perhaps. Mike Rinder can explain how a “newbie” in Scientology would have been able to make that assessment, especially while doing all of the “coursework” . . .

Also, is it possible to do that amount of “study” and “evaluation” in that short period of time, have it evaluated, and receive the results ?

QUOTE: ” It was during that time, that I realized that the place was an asylum being run by the inmates.

Long story short, I let them know that and they threw me out.

But I liked bk 1 and the two courses I took.

It was all very good data.

But before they threw me out, they sold me four home study courses.

Dianetics homestudy, Science of Survival homestudy, SP/PTS homestudy, and Intro to scn ethics.

I was happy to pay for the courses, because I had wins from everything I had already done.

I realized they had good data. ”

END QUOTE :

So, in just 4 days, you were evaluated, did several courses of study, got the results, realized they were “inmates running the asylum”, bought 4 more books from the “inmates”, get kicked out of CoS, decided they had “good data”, and continued Scientology all on your own ?

Sorry, but I have to call “BULLSHIT” on that “story” . . .

Dave F.

Dave F.

You have not read my posts properly.

I was only in the cos for 4 days.

That was back in 1997.

So I was never really much in the church.

During those 4 days in the church, I had a bk 1 demo, and keyed out, very well.

I was amazed.

Then I did two intro courses, Ups and downs and Personal values.

It was during that time, that I realized that the place was an asylum being run by the inmates.

Long story short, I let them know that and they threw me out.

But I liked bk 1 and the two courses I took.

It was all very good data.

But before they threw me out, they sold me four home study courses.

Dianetics homestudy, Science of Survival homestudy, SP/PTS homestudy, and Intro to scn ethics.

I was happy to pay for the courses, because I had wins from everything I had already done.

I realized they had good data.

So I went home and did those homestudy courses about three/four times each.

I had great wins.

They saved my life.

Then a few months later, I met someone who told me about the freezone.

And their magazine, the Free Spirit Journal.

And from there I got more auditing from the late Bob Ross, and was able to buy all the text books from others who advertised their book collections for sale, and read them all a few times.

I had lots of wins.

Then as the yrs went on I read everything I could find in the freezone, then I built my own bridge.

It was the best thing I ever did.

Dio

Spike,

Glad to hear that you were able to escape the clutches of Scientology !

If / When you encounter Scientology “Moles” & “Trolls” online, share this with them . . .

QUOTE :

To ALL of the Scientology “Moles” & “Trolls” . . .

Next time you talk to COB, David Miscavige, share these LINKS with him . . . The CLOCK is TICKING and it’s a COUNTDOWN ! ! !

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-scientology-not-real-religion-he-questions-tax-free-church-status-708301

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/10/trump-reportedly-supports-revoking-church-scientologys-tax-exempt-status.html

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/10/trump-scientology-and-irs-yes-let-tax-stripping-be

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-scientology-tax-exemption_us_5a04dd35e4b05673aa584cab

Dave F.